Apis4 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 OK so, I'll say it right off the bat, NO, after 40 tears of gaming, Keyboard IS NOT the superior UI for gaming. I am about to ask a Gamepad related question, and if that's all you are going to reply then dont waste your time. Further, let me just say having played on PC on and off for all those years, SOME games like those specifically designed with the limited UI control options for PC in the early days, or some gameplay formulas, DO warrant a KB/M combo..... I'd never play an isometric RPG or a Sims game without one, not a Point&Click puzzler..... but the moment they decided to port console Games to PC in in the late 90s, as _PC technology got so advanced they did not have to sacrifice Computer functionality in other areas to be game friendly.... they ensured the KB/M UI was doomed to inferiority. So.. OK, that's out the way, now move on if you're not in to Controllers. OK folks, so I just bought a Logitech F310 Game Pad to game with. I deliberately bought this controller because it's of the Sony Type layout. This is very important, I have owned Xbox, PlayStattion, WiiU, and going back I have played or owned all the major Sega consoles until they stopped, and even got some action on an Attari Jaguar, and owned a Panasonic 3DO.....and the Sony layout, is absolutely, without question, THE best of them.....though I would say N64 was fantastic too, but I cannot find a modern new controller in N64 Layout. So I plug it in, and it's registering, and I find it ready to play, I hit some buttons... all works fine.... until I go to move. Then I cannot. Anyone who knows controllers knows that Microsoft use a Right Stick, D Pad, vertically offset L stick....system.... instead of the far better R-L joystick offset top left D pad of Sony. And now.....the game is FORCING me in to the Microsoft Controller gameplay UI. My D pad is move, and my left Joystick is SNEAK.... and in game there does seem to be any way to change this. HELP ME. I loved how much easier and more intuitive the gameplay UI was on my PS4, replaying SSE, than it was playing on my Xbox-360 playing LE. I need a way to make a F310 PS Layout controller, function as it is meant to, to have dual joystick movement controls, without having to use a stupid as EFF, offset L joystick. This is an incredibly popular and big selling game controller, so it HAS to be able to work as made, surely, anyone who can give any constructive suggestions please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) I have a Logitech F310 that I have actually stopped using in favor of an XBox controller. Partly because of the feel and partly because the right trigger seems to stick internally making me waste arrows. Press the Mode button on the F310. The light should be off. As described in the documentation for the F310 5. Mode button Selects flight or sports mode. Flight mode: analog sticks control action and D-pad controls POV; Status light is off. Sports mode: D-pad controls action and analog sticks control POV; Status light is on. Edited August 6, 2020 by IsharaMeradin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis4 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 OK so, I'll say it right off the bat, NO, after 40 tears of gaming, Keyboard IS NOT the superior UI for gaming. I am about to ask a Gamepad related question, and if that's all you are going to reply then dont waste your time. Further, let me just say having played on PC on and off for all those years, SOME games like those specifically designed with the limited UI control options for PC in the early days, or some gameplay formulas, DO warrant a KB/M combo..... I'd never play an isometric RPG or a Sims game without one, not a Point&Click puzzler..... but the moment they decided to port console Games to PC in in the late 90s, as _PC technology got so advanced they did not have to sacrifice Computer functionality in other areas to be game friendly.... they ensured the KB/M UI was doomed to inferiority. So.. OK, that's out the way, now move on if you're not in to Controllers. OK folks, so I just bought a Logitech F310 Game Pad to game with. I deliberately bought this controller because it's of the Sony Type layout. This is very important, I have owned Xbox, PlayStattion, WiiU, and going back I have played or owned all the major Sega consoles until they stopped, and even got some action on an Attari Jaguar, and owned a Panasonic 3DO.....and the Sony layout, is absolutely, without question, THE best of them.....though I would say N64 was fantastic too, but I cannot find a modern new controller in N64 Layout. So I plug it in, and it's registering, and I find it ready to play, I hit some buttons... all works fine.... until I go to move. Then I cannot. Anyone who knows controllers knows that Microsoft use a Right Stick, D Pad, vertically offset L stick....system.... instead of the far better R-L joystick offset top left D pad of Sony. And now.....the game is FORCING me in to the Microsoft Controller gameplay UI. My D pad is move, and my left Joystick is SNEAK.... and in game there does seem to be any way to change this. HELP ME. I loved how much easier and more intuitive the gameplay UI was on my PS4, replaying SSE, than it was playing on my Xbox-360 playing LE. I need a way to make a F310 PS Layout controller, function as it is meant to, to have dual joystick movement controls, without having to use a stupid as EFF, offset L joystick. This is an incredibly popular and big selling game controller, so it HAS to be able to work as made, surely, anyone who can give any constructive suggestions please do. Unfortunately that does not work. First thing I tried. Light off, D pad is Move. Light on, D Pad is move. I dropped almost 3k on my new PC set up, I had the money, and anticipated, once I saw that at last, Sony layout controllers were available, along with most marquee console titles, that it would replace my consoles now, since the interface architecture, from a gameplay perspective, had aligned so much compared to even ten years ago, when I had my last gaming PC, yet alone 30 years ago when I had my first. The whole things is predicated on being able to have a Sony layout control platform. If I cannot, I have essentially given up my motorcycle savings, to buy a 3k piece of sh*t :( I am really hoping someone knows a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis4 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 I have a Logitech F310 that I have actually stopped using in favor of an XBox controller. Partly because of the feel and partly because the right trigger seems to stick internally making me waste arrows. Press the Mode button on the F310. The light should be off. As described in the documentation for the F310 5. Mode button Selects flight or sports mode. Flight mode: analog sticks control action and D-pad controls POV; Status light is off. Sports mode: D-pad controls action and analog sticks control POV; Status light is on. Unfortunately that does not work. First thing I tried. Light off, D pad is Move. Light on, D Pad is move. I dropped almost 3k on my new PC set up, I had the money, and anticipated, once I saw that at last, Sony layout controllers were available, along with most marquee console titles, that it would replace my consoles now, since the interface architecture, from a gameplay perspective, had aligned so much compared to even ten years ago, when I had my last gaming PC, yet alone 30 years ago when I had my first. The whole things is predicated on being able to have a Sony layout control platform. If I cannot, I have essentially given up my motorcycle savings, to buy a 3k piece of sh*t :sad: I am really hoping someone knows a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On the back / bottom what is the XID Input set at? Mine is set to X. Also should note that I have Windows 7 still. I have no experience using the F310 with Windows 10. If the OS might be playing a factor, I couldn't say for sure. If nothing else, Steam does have a way to change button assignments. Go to Settings > Controller > General Controller Settings. In the next window that pops up, select your controller and choose Define Layout. See if changing things there might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis4 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 I have a Logitech F310 that I have actually stopped using in favor of an XBox controller. Partly because of the feel and partly because the right trigger seems to stick internally making me waste arrows. Press the Mode button on the F310. The light should be off. As described in the documentation for the F310 5. Mode button Selects flight or sports mode. Flight mode: analog sticks control action and D-pad controls POV; Status light is off. Sports mode: D-pad controls action and analog sticks control POV; Status light is on. Unfortunately that does not work. First thing I tried. Light off, D pad is Move. Light on, D Pad is move. I dropped almost 3k on my new PC set up, I had the money, and anticipated, once I saw that at last, Sony layout controllers were available, along with most marquee console titles, that it would replace my consoles now, since the interface architecture, from a gameplay perspective, had aligned so much compared to even ten years ago, when I had my last gaming PC, yet alone 30 years ago when I had my first. The whole things is predicated on being able to have a Sony layout control platform. If I cannot, I have essentially given up my motorcycle savings, to buy a 3k piece of sh*t :sad: I am really hoping someone knows a fix. you're beyond helpful dude! I will try in steam, and yes, my controller is switched to X, that's the second thing that I tried ha~! I'll see if you're Steam set up suggestions help, I see you everywhere in here, they should pay you!!!!! (yes, and I am using 10.... god I wish I could use 7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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