Skyrim SE is straight up crashing my computer completely. I'd pay money for a CTD instead.

[yuk75]

So my computer's been crashing from Skyrim SE hard, and at first it didn't seem to have any real pattern. It happened while walking, using forge, on a horse, basically any time I spent a lot of time out in the world it was unstable but I spent most of my first 30 levels in Riften and crashed plenty of times right there in the market. I had a faulty graphics card so I thought it was that. I've replaced it with a better one and my crashes have gotten worse. Here's my parts. I'm on Windows 10 pro.

 

I now have a 100% replicatable crash when trying to enter magic or inventory. I don't know how to fix it or if I can. Before this was replicatable I crashed 4 times in a row on the path between the hot springs and where the Riften Skooma Dealers are. I tried resaver and it did not help.

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
254 FE   0 ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
254 FE   1 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
254 FE   2 ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
254 FE   3 ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
254 FE   4 ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl
254 FE   5 ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
254 FE   6 Unofficial Arcane Archer Pack Patch.esl
254 FE   7 Unofficial Nordic Jewelry Patch.esl
254 FE   8 Unofficial Arcane Accessories Patch.esl
254 FE   9 Unofficial Skyrim Survival Patch.esl
  6  6     RSkyrimChildren.esm
254 FE   a Translated Draugr.esl
254 FE   b RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
254 FE   c RASS - Visual Effects.esl
  7  7     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHair.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 10  a     SkyUI_SE.esp
 11  b     FloraRespawnFix.esp
 12  c     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
254 FE   d ICNs_ImmersiveCollegeNPCs.esp
 13  d     Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
 14  e     Vivid WeathersSE.esp
 15  f     ViewableFactionRanks.esp
 16 10     Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 17 11     MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp
 18 12     Sanctuary Reborn.esp
 19 13     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 20 14     TCBM.esp
 21 15     BlackthornManor.esp
 22 16     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 23 17     WeightLessTrueAll.esp
 24 18     Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp
 25 19     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 26 1a     goodbrother.esp
 27 1b     WhiterunBigChildBedroomAndBasement.esp
 28 1c     LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
 29 1d     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 30 1e     Mors Feminine Females - All.esp
 31 1f     SurvivalConfig.esp
 32 20     HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
254 FE   e Animal Fat.esp
254 FE   f Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
254 FE  10 AFS Dirt and Blood.esp
254 FE  11 KSHairForCRF.esp
 33 21     Magicka Invested.esp
 34 22     KhajiitWillFollow.esp
 35 23     WindhelmHjerimBasementAndBigChildBedroom.esp
 36 24     TheScarlett.esp
 37 25     SilianManor.esp
 38 26     zMirai.esp
 39 27     Mirai Grows Up.esp
 40 28     Run For Your Lives.esp
 41 29     Silverstead.esp
 42 2a     MammothManor.esp
 43 2b     Immersive Patrols II.esp
 44 2c     True Master Trainers (Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch).esp
 45 2d     Cats-in-SkyrimSSE.esp
 46 2e     RimStats.esp
 47 2f     SofiaFollower.esp
 48 30     SaveTheBrotherhood.esp
 49 31     RiftenHoneysideBigChildBedroomAndEnchantingLab.esp
 50 32     MarkarthVlindrelHallBasementAndBigChildBedroom.esp
 51 33     SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp
 52 34     MCS.esp
 53 35     hfhometeleports.esp
 54 36     Blackthorn - Hearthfire Fix.esp
254 FE  12 AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
 55 37     RLO - Effects.esp
254 FE  13 kart_CSSET.esp
254 FE  14 DragonCombatDialogue.esp
 56 38     CT_AskToShowRoom.esp
 57 39     Serana.esp
254 FE  15 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE  16 Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
 58 3a     SeranaDialogAddon.esp
 59 3b     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 60 3c     MASSE.esp
 61 3d     Map Markers Complete.esp
 62 3e     KhajiitChildren.esp
 63 3f     EK_UnusualApplications.esp
 64 40     Aymarandfriends.esp
 65 41     MBW Dragon Souls to Perk Points.esp
 66 42     RogueSorceressRetextured.esp
254 FE  17 SurvivalConfig - CRF Patch.esp
 67 43     DX Daughter of the Sea.esp
 68 44     DSHg - DragonPriest Masks.esp
 69 45     DSHg - Helmets.esp
 70 46     DSHg - UpdateDB.esp
 71 47     DSHg - UpdateDG.esp
 72 48     sneak mod.esp
 73 49     Blackthorn RSC Patch.esp
 74 4a     AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
 75 4b     Realistic-Voice.esp
 76 4c     EnchantX50.esp
 77 4d     Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
 78 4e     Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp
 79 4f     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 80 50     SimpleBedroll.esp
 81 51     PeopleAreStrangers.esp
 82 52     RSChildren.esp
254 FE  18 RSC_USSEP_AventusFix.esp
 83 53     Reanimate Level Cap Increase.esp
 84 54     EnhancedAtronachs.esp
 85 55     Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp
 86 56     Sheps_Tattoo_Collection.esp
 87 57     Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer.esp
 88 58     KS Hairdo's.esp
 89 59     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
254 FE  19 SurvivalConfig - USSEP Patch.esp
 90 5a     AllMorphsAllRaces.esp
 91 5b     Dragonborn Empowered.esp
 92 5c     KhajiitProwess.esp
 93 5d     Ranger Outfit.esp
 94 5e     Crimson Blood Armor.esp
 95 5f     SDA- DX CBlood Patch.esp
 96 60     RaceMenuHH.esp
 97 61     RaceMenu.esp
 98 62     XPMSE.esp
 99 63     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
100 64     FNIS.esp
101 65     CBBE.esp
102 66     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE  1a SurvivalConfig - SkyTEST Patch.esp
103 67     MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp
104 68     Unique Armor Crafting.esp
105 69     Katarina SSE.esp
106 6a     DX Necromancer Robes.esp
107 6b     FNISspells.esp
108 6c     DX Witcher Armor.esp
109 6d     Shiva's Beautiful Presets.esp
110 6e     Batch Crafting Recipes SE.esp
111 6f     Faster Perks - Smithing.esp
112 70     SkyrimRecycling_noExp.esp
113 71     Unlimited Training.esp
114 72     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
254 FE  1b Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
115 73     crimsonquestmarkers.esp
116 74     Player Size Adjuster.esp
117 75     TimingIsEverything.esp
118 76     Phenderix Twin Souls Expanded Levels.esp
119 77     Upgrade Leveled Items.esp
120 78     MultipleEnchantments.esp
121 79     Shiira a Female Khajiit Follower.esp
122 7a     CRF+MI.esp
123 7b     RSC CRF Patch.esp
124 7c     Followers_StealthKills.esp
125 7d     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
126 7e     SJR Bound Bows of Destruction.esp
127 7f     CraftUnenchantedTGandDBSets.esp
128 80     sm_Arcane_Disenchant.esp
129 81     Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Vivid Weathers Patch.esp
130 82     AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
131 83     ImprovedMagicSE.esp
132 84     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
133 85     FollowerWander2.esp
134 86     NoRadialBlur.esp
135 87     BloodOnTheIceQuestFixUSSEP.esp
136 88     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
254 FE  1c SurvivalConfig - AS-LAL Patch.esp
254 FE  1d PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
137 89     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
138 8a     RLO - Interiors.esp
139 8b     RLO - CRF Patch.esp
140 8c     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
141 8d     RLO - VIS Patch.esp
142 8e     Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
143 8f     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
254 FE  1e PCE - RDO Patch.esp
254 FE  1f Qw_SofiaFollower_RDO Patch.esp
144 90     CFTO.esp
145 91     Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
146 92     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
147 93     Immersive Horses.esp
148 94     CFTO - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
149 95     RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
           RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
150 96     Hunters Not Bandits.esp
151 97     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp
254 FE  20 PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp
254 FE  21 PCE - RLO Patch.esp
254 FE  22 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
254 FE  23 PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
152 98     RLO - IC Patch.esp
254 FE  24 PCE - Thieves Guild for Good Guys Patch.esp
153 99     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE  25 PCE - RW2 Patch.esp
154 9a     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
254 FE  26 McmOresFirewoods.esp
254 FE  27 OreFirewood_USSEPPatch-2-0.esp
254 FE  28 McmOresFirewoods_Blackthorn_Patch-2.0.0.esp

I uninstalled the following mods during this playthrough because I thought they were the source of my crashes (or I just didn't like them anymore): touring carriages, sounds of skyrim, hearthfire kids grow up, castle valdamire and reverb and ambience overhaul, as well as one of those landscapes of skyrim ones. This save is relatively new, from a fresh Skyrim install and all new mod downloads, but previous saves with these mods have also caused issues so something is really wrong here.

 

Can anyone please help me diagnose this issue? I can't have my whole PC shut down like this it's damaging my data and OS and frankly cheesing me right off.

 

EDIT: I started a new save also, no crashes, but that's exactly how this one started so I've got very little hope it will stay ok.

[wfandrews]

Looking at your system specs the only thing I could see which might be a problem is your power supply, seems a little light for your specs.

 

You may want to post your question on the Steam forum "Hardware and Operating Systems" as a mod conflict would not, as far as I know, cause your computer to crash, overheating however would.

[HeyYou]

Did you regenerate your ini files after changing your video card? (did it get replaced with the same model?) Drivers up to date? Temps good?

[yuk75]

Looking at your system specs the only thing I could see which might be a problem is your power supply, seems a little light for your specs.

 

You may want to post your question on the Steam forum "Hardware and Operating Systems" as a mod conflict would not, as far as I know, cause your computer to crash, overheating however would.

This happened with my previous card too, it should be okay for this card? The card is at less than 40, much better than my old card, so I don't think it's overheating.

 

 

Did you regenerate your ini files after changing your video card? (did it get replaced with the same model?) Drivers up to date? Temps good?

I didn't regenerate ini's because I reformatted, installed the card, and then installed steam. Everything was 100% wiped and Skyrim was a new install too. Temps are fantastic, they don't go above 40 where as my old card would be at 80 in no time. Skyrim can't detect my hardware though which is making me sad and doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

I just had a crash, this is my papyrus log if it helps anyone... (won't let me post, it freaks out lol)

https://pastebin.com/czL19AFq

Note that it crashed around 8:15-20 so I don't think that last one is my problem. The crash before just has VM freezing/thawing every couple of minutes, nothing right before the crash except achievements.

[pcgreasy]

As wfandrews menitoned it may be your power supply, especially if you are overclocking cpu and gpu on those specs. Recently my machine, with similar specs, started crashing daily when gaming so I upgraded my PSU to a 750W Gold and it solved the problem immediately.

[saurusmaximus]

Before you get too carried away replacing your p/s, does your system crash when playing any other games? If nothing else, can you play Skyrim mod-free without any issues?

 

Based on your comment, it sounds like it's stable for a little while, then gets all crashy after your save is a few hours old, is that correct?

[yuk75]

The only problem with this is it was happening on my previous install too, which was overpowered. It was a GTX 960 card. I can't say for sure if this happens in other games because my previous card was faulty and caused shutdowns all the time, this card is new and has never had any issues except in Skyrim. My old card would shut me down on startup 11 times in a row for shits and giggles so I thought all my issues were from that card. The new one is also not overheating. I can use Afterburner or Speccy to watch the temps and they stay below 40 (old card would hit 70+). I'm not overclocking, I don't know how to do that.

 

I can play Skyrim Mod free without issues, but I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out if issues are mod related, game related, or something in between. It seems to never happen until I've sunken some hours in, so I've been playing an hour or two between batches of mods on a completely new save and install. I've got 3 crashes from one area in a new game but they only happen when the following mods are active:

 

immersive dragons

talkative dragons

immersive citizens

relationship dialogue overhaul

immersive college npcs

realistic conversations

flora respawn fix

flora overhaul

vivid weathers

possibly skytest from previous batch

 

Those are the last two batches of mods I enabled, it's not happening if I go back before any of them and run around. It is if I enable them all and run around back to my error spot (between wichmist grove, mistwatch, and darkwater crossing). My whole computer literally shuts down every single time some time shortly after killing a dragon. I thought nope must have gotten lucky this time and bam 3rd crash happens. But who knows it could be something else and the dragon was just my focus because it's big and in my face?

 

Since I can't post my logs, here's a rar file with the last 3 crashes if you wouldn't mind looking I'd so appreciate it.....you'll notice it's a dragon problem but I don't know how to tell what mod it is coming from or if perhaps it's not even causing the issue because it's in the logs that didn't crash as well which means that it could be a nonissue and the real problem isn't showing. https://drive.google.com/file/d/14-M4tuD3pOJr-RbdT4VZng8hj1rpZSgy/view?usp=sharing

 

Also the mods I suspected of causing this crash were Vivid Weathers, Realistic Lighting Overhaul, Immersive Patrols, or Immersive Citizens. I haven't even tried enabling RDO because I've realised it's buggier than the real game and also because I've suspected it so strongly.

 

Load order

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
254 FE   0 ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
254 FE   1 Translated Draugr.esl
  6  6     FloraRespawnFix.esp
  7  7     SkyUI_SE.esp
  8  8     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
254 FE   2 ICNs_ImmersiveCollegeNPCs.esp
  9  9     Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
 10  a     Vivid WeathersSE.esp
 11  b     Realistic-Voice.esp
254 FE   3 DragonCombatDialogue.esp
 12  c     Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
 13  d     Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Vivid Weathers Patch.esp
 14  e     Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp
 15  f     sneak mod.esp
 16 10     Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 17 11     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 18 12     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 19 13     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 20 14     Mors Feminine Females - All.esp
 21 15     SurvivalConfig.esp
254 FE   4 SurvivalConfig - SkyTEST Patch.esp
254 FE   5 SurvivalConfig - USSEP Patch.esp
 22 16     FollowerWander2.esp
 23 17     Followers_StealthKills.esp
 24 18     AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
 25 19     CBBE.esp
 26 1a     FNIS.esp
 27 1b     FNISspells.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuHH.esp
 31 1f     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 32 20     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE   6 AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
 33 21     AllMorphsAllRaces.esp
 34 22     KhajiitProwess.esp
254 FE   7 kart_CSSET.esp
254 FE   8 SurvivalConfig - CRF Patch.esp
           SurvivalConfig - AS-LAL Patch.esp
 35 23     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
 36 24     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 37 25     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
 38 26     RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
 39 27     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
           RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

[saurusmaximus]

The problem with those logs is, they don't really tell you a whole lot about what was going wrong, they just log errors that the engine sees in Papyrus. For example, the only dragon-related error I noticed was actually a script from the vanilla game that is attached to dragon mounds (you can tell because the refid's start with "000"), so most likely, that isn't an issue. Now, it's possible another mod is referencing back to that script, but that is the way it's being logged.

 

How big is your unstable save game, in MB?

 

Based on the list you gave, if I had to pick a mod out of that group that is the culprit, it would be flora respawn fix, simply because it does use a lot of scripts. So I would start there.

 

One other thing, are you running any third-party applications in the background that could be messing with your game? If so, try disabling those and see if you get any results.

[yuk75]

I shut everything down to game, I've even not used Afterburner while testing in case that's the reason.

 

My save right now is less than 4000kb. Why does the file size matter? :)

 

Is there an alternative to the respawn fix I can use that handles the same thing?

[saurusmaximus]

I was asking about savegame size because an excessively large file is a good indication that you have a corrupted save. Doesn't look that way here.

 

I'm not familiar with any alternatives to that mod, I guess just browse around the nexus and see what you can find.