jac107 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 So the other day I decided to play FO4 again after having uninstalled it just under a year ago. Redownloaded the game, got it setup, downloaded a couple dozen mods, y'know the usual. Upon entering the game I was getting CTDs fairly consistently. While I couldn't figure it out initially it seems to be tied to loading new cells. So I went through and did the usual troubleshooting. Uninstalled all the mods, and made a new clean save. However, before I activated a single mod, the game was still crashing. I went through and made sure there wasn't any mod junk or loose files clogging it up, and found nothing. I initially figured that some mod I had had messed up the main game files; however after verifying steam found noting. I didn't really trust it so I deleted a few files and had it reacquire again. Still crashing. At this point I just resigned myself to having to redownload the game again. The next day and 80GB later I've got a fresh install. Made a new character, sat through the intro, and promptly crashed again as soon as I tried to leave the vault 111 area. Now I've looked around the forums to see if there was already a solution, and while a few people have had issues similar to mine, none of the proposed solutions changed anything. I even did a windows update to see if that'd magically fix it. Nope, still nothing. So I'm stumped. I've got a completely fresh install of fallout that just won't work. My only guess at this point is that FO4 and windows have decided they hate each other now. but if that were the case I would think more people would be talking about it. TLDR: The game keeps crashing on cell loads (I think), and nothing I've done has fixed it :( Windows 10 build 20201intel I5-8600RTX 2060 supper 8GB32GB work RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 If the game is installed in the program files folder, and some sub-folder there of, try moving it out of there. Pretty sure steam will let you do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) So the other day I decided to play FO4 again after having uninstalled it just under a year ago. Redownloaded the game, got it setup, downloaded a couple dozen mods, y'know the usual. Upon entering the game I was getting CTDs fairly consistently. While I couldn't figure it out initially it seems to be tied to loading new cells. So I went through and did the usual troubleshooting. Uninstalled all the mods, and made a new clean save. However, before I activated a single mod, the game was still crashing. I went through and made sure there wasn't any mod junk or loose files clogging it up, and found nothing. I initially figured that some mod I had had messed up the main game files; however after verifying steam found noting. I didn't really trust it so I deleted a few files and had it reacquire again. Still crashing. At this point I just resigned myself to having to redownload the game again. The next day and 80GB later I've got a fresh install. Made a new character, sat through the intro, and promptly crashed again as soon as I tried to leave the vault 111 area. Now I've looked around the forums to see if there was already a solution, and while a few people have had issues similar to mine, none of the proposed solutions changed anything. I even did a windows update to see if that'd magically fix it. Nope, still nothing. So I'm stumped. I've got a completely fresh install of fallout that just won't work. My only guess at this point is that FO4 and windows have decided they hate each other now. but if that were the case I would think more people would be talking about it. TLDR: The game keeps crashing on cell loads (I think), and nothing I've done has fixed it :sad: Windows 10 build 20201intel I5-8600RTX 2060 supper 8GB32GB work RAMThat's barley eligible for this game, ya know that right?Ok, any way's your issue is not the game or mods. It's the hardware and software drivers for that group of hardware.The OS is not up to date. Drivers----I bet a dollar to a dozen doughnuts are all out of date.there are ways first to check.The RTX graphics has an app built in to optimize the game, DO NOT follow any protocol's suggestions from modders. Let "your " graphics software control every thing. Not people's advice--you have NO choice here.It should have gaming optimization software built in, ? if not ? drivers are out of date or won't update due to OS data is also out of date.that's where you start. Update windows until you can't update any thing any further. reboot Download from radon directly the driver / graphics discovery tool and allow IT to install what ever IT finds your Equipment requires. verify / reboot. check again with radon's detections software SO IT does not detect anything old or out of place. On Steam--search Booster 7 install that. run that see if I am not wrong--- cuz I'm not. you will discover a lack of updated software packages. it can also update game requirements other than graphics support for which you lack too.Do all of that and call me back.PS: IT's never a good idea to run windows Preview test OS's with games. game companies are not going to make adjustments for MS changes that are exclusive only. You need to think about what it is your doing or Buy a bigger machine.Kitty Black Edited September 1, 2020 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac107 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 The min spec as stated by Bethesda is an I5-2300. A CPU that came out nine years ago. The 8600 is only two years old. I don't have an amd card? its an Nvidia RTX card running the current 452.06 driver. Build 20201 is the most recent OS build in the dev channel. The only thing windows wants to update is .NET framework 4.8 to KB4569744. Which I don't believe fallout uses the .NET framework, but hey if it fixes it! And yes I understand the issue with running pre release builds. I've been in the windows insider program since before windows 10 came out. If I were able to confidently nail these issues to the windows build I'm on I wouldn't have posted here. If it does end up being windows I'll buy you a beer. Now I did try that booster 7 program. The current Nvidia driver is 452.06 right? It tried to roll me back to the 451.67 driver from two months ago. It also thinks I have a Xeon E3 1500 for some reason? Which doesn't give me a lot of confidence for how accurate booster 7 actually is. but if these old drivers work better than the new ones I'll let y'all know which driver was the issue. I'm not at my pc right now so it might take a couple of hours. Thanks for the suggestions regardless! I'd be happy to know if there's anything else I could do If the game is installed in the program files folder, and some sub-folder there of, try moving it out of there. Pretty sure steam will let you do that.Its not, I've got it currently installed on a separate SSD. Thanks though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fdzzaigl Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I'm having the same issue as the OP. And have tracked it down to be F4SE. Installed a lot of things with a loadorder guide (Thuggyfield), game crashed out of the blue while I was still pulling an easy 60FPS on a completely new game. Did the usual like OP, kept disabling mods until I couldn't disable anything anymore and even with a new save the game kept crashing.Even checked cache integrity etc, everything. Once I started the game up with the regular launcher everything worked fine. If I put F4SE on it: crash during opening sequence when running to the vault. I'm at a loss too, given that I did a textbook install of F4SE and it has worked fine for me in the past. Any ideas welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac107 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Well, I installed the KB4569744 update. No change. Then installed the old drivers that boost 7 suggested. No change. I'm going to roll back to the beta ring and see if windows is the true issue. I'm having the same issue as the OP. And have tracked it down to be F4SE.Well I'm glad you've at least figured out what the problem is for you. Mine still crashes without F4SE installed so I can't back you up on that. However if I were in your shoes I'd try and roll fallout back to the last update, and see if that fixes the problem. Its been a long time since I've had to do that so unfortunately I don't remember how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) How about this tool ? Kitty Edited September 4, 2020 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I was running the game modded and for about 178.4 hours straight non-stop, no issues.I don't inject script extender because I get all my mods from within the games download feature.No out side 3rd parties. No outside tools.But, it's fun when things just work, no so much when they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wererommel Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I don't have a solution, but the Load Accelerator may help. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac107 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 Well, I was able to roll windows back a few versions. It hasn't fixed it, however it now takes slightly longer to crash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't have a solution, but the Load Accelerator may help.I have tried that. Someone else suggested it in a different topic. It didn't fix anything for me though.But thanks How about this tool?If you're asking if I've used it then yes, of course. That's how I verified that I was already using the latest Nvidia driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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