When is self not self?

[lofgren]

I am being driven mad.

 

The keyword "self" in papyrus, in most cases, seems to refer to the object that the script is attached to. This is what every reference I have found says that "self" SHOULD refer to. For example, when used this way in a quest script ("self.setstage(20)") it seems to work just fine.

 

But now I have created a script and added it to a piece of armor, and "self" seems to refer to the SCRIPT, not the armor.

 

Does anyone know of a resource that can explain when "self" refers to the script, and when it refers to the object the script is attached to?

 

And can anybody offer a suggestion for how to create a script that can be added to multiple pieces of armor and then perform functions on the specific piece that has been activated? I know I can create a property and then go through and manually insert the armor's id into that property through the property dialogue, but that seems silly. Surely there must be a way for the script to refer to the item it is attached to?

 

Any assistance would be appreciated.

[EnaiSiaion]

Is this about the error message about "the script or one of its parents"? In that case you just applied a function that isn't appropriate for the object type (eg self.dispel() on a script that extends Armor).

[lofgren]

No, this is about "self" returning something different than expected.

 

Here are more details:

 

I added a script to a piece of armor. It extends ObjectReference. What I want to do is immediately unequip the armor if the player equips it. I discovered this problem when I added the line:

 

akActor.UnEquipItem(self, false, true)

 

That did not work so I tried:

 

akActor.UnEquipItem(self.GetBaseObject(), false, true)

akActor.UnEquipItem(self.GetBaseObject() as Armor, false, true)

armor me = self.GetBaseObject() as Armor

akActor.UnEquipItem(me, false, true)

 

armor me = self as Armor

akActor.UnEquipItem(me, false, true)

And probably another half dozen variations on that theme. Finally I just did thus:

 

debug.Notification(self as string)

 

The notification that popped up was the name of the script, not the item!

 

If anybody can figure out how to do this, I would be very thankful. Alternatively, if anybody has figured out if attempting to equip/unequip an item flagged with abPreventRemoval/abPreventEquip send any kind of event that Papyrus can register, that would even better.

[lofgren]

AAAAnd I'm an idiot.

 

I still haven't solved my problem, but I did discover that the notification was getting truncated. self as string actually returns [scriptname (object 1 in container 14)]. I still need a way to capture the item that the script is attached to, though.