memory issues and questions

[rmp123]

I recently started having a problem that after loading one of my saves after a few minutes (10 at most) i crash to desktop every time. i know for a fact its not one of my mods as i have used boss and fnvedit to check if a .esp was loading before its master and have found no problems and even went as fare as to make a patch. i run fonv using NMM for my loading of mods with archive invalidating on and have NVSE installed correctly (typing getnvseversion in console brings back the correct version) i use 4gbnewvegas to actually launch my game

 

after loading i use my task manager to see the amount of memory i am using and it is already up to about 1,600,000 kb (almost 1.6gb) soon after (im assuming when it hits 2gb) my game crashes. isn't 4gbnv suppose to make it to where i could use all 4gb without the game running out of memory

 

if anyone knows why it is that my game is using such huge amounts of memory before i even get into new vegas (which should make it much worse as i have freeside and strip open mods and repopulated wasteland)

 

my final question is if using a mod that changes the timescale to 1:1 would make it to where things that change over a period of in-game time (merchants refreshing, corpses disappearing etc.) would make the game have so much required memory having to hold on to old info like all the stuff i sold the merchants that it would run my ram requirements through the roof.

 

my system specs are:

OS: windows 7 64bit

processor: AMD phenom II x4 ~3.0ghz

memory: 8gb

graphics card : AMD Radeon 7770

 

my load order:

 

falloutnv.esm
FalloutNV.esm
Project Nevada - Core.esm
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
NSkies URWLified.esm
Inventory Access.esm
NVInteriors_Core.esm
NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
DWCNV.esm
Ambient Temperature.esm
FreesideOpen.esm
More Perks.esm
More Perks for Companions.esm
More Perks for Dead Money.esm
More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm
More Perks for Old World Blues.esm
Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm
DFB - Random Encounters.esm
rePopulated Wasteland.esm
NVStripOpen.esm
SomeguySeries.esm
UWHNV-Core.esm
oHUD.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
NVEC Reduce CTD.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp
dD-Smaller Wounds.esp
dD-Smaller Spatters Realistic.esp
dD-Reduced Dismember Force - EVE.esp
dD-Smaller Wounds - EVE.esp
housemod.esp
NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp
NSkies URWLifiedHH.esp
NSkies URWLifiedOWB.esp
Jump Fall Fixer.esp
Powered Power Armor.esp
Ambient Temperature - PPA.esp
1nivVSLArmors.esp
Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp
MMUE POP.esp
DWCNV-CS.esp
Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp
Essential Companions.esp
MaxFollowers12.esp
UnlimitedCompanions.esp
UnlimitedCompanions SCRIPT FIX.esp
FreesideOpenPatch.esp
More Perks Update.esp
More Perks for Companions Update.esp
More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp
More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp
More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp
outsidebets.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp
Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp
Project Nevada - All DLC.esp
StripOpenMain.esp
RealSmokes.esp
Better Burned Man.esp
EVE FNV.esp
EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp
Readius_NV.esp
populatedcasino.esp
TheInheritance.esp
NewVegasBountiesII.esp
NewVegasBounties.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
Shotgun Commando.esp
GRA WRP Compatibility Patch.esp
christinecos.esp
FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp
Freeside Open Patch.esp
357retex.esp
DFB - Random Encounters - Update - MCM.esp
Project Nevada - EVE.esp
NewVegasBountiesFSOPatch.esp
MMUE-CP-NVInteriors.esp
MMUE-CP-PNALLDLC.esp
MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp
MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp
MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp
MMUE-CP-EVE.esp
MMUE-CP-ILO.esp
MMUE-CP-rePopulated.esp
CNR_Beta.esp
1nivPNSLPatch.esp
1nivDWSLPatch.esp
UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp
UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp
UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp
Roberts_NewVegas.esp
Imp's More Complex Needs.esp
WeaponModsExpanded.esp
WeaponJamming.esp
WMX-DeadMoney.esp
WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp
WMX-EVE.esp
WMX-HonestHearts.esp
WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp
WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp
WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp
WMX-ShotgunCommando.esp
MMUE-CP-WMX.esp
Project Nevada - WMX.esp
WeaponModsExpanded_FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp
DLC Weapon Integration - WMX.esp
Imp's More Complex Needs - JA - SORTED.esp
Imp's More Complex Needs- All DLC and Alcohol Overhaul + Nuka Fix.esp
IMCNNV - HUD and Hotkeys.esp
Ambient Temperature - IMCNNV.esp
IMCNNV - Sorted.esp
Wave Radio UWHNV.esp
HUD Extended.esp
FlashlightNVSE.esp
ILO - NSkies URWLified Patch.esp
ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
NVWillow.esp
Willows More Complex Needs.esp
SorterUpdater_UWHNV_WMX.esp
SorterUpdater_UWHNV_PN_WMX.esp
SorterUpdater_UWHNV_CNR.esp
SorterUpdater_UWHNV_NVInteriors.esp
SorterUpdater_UWHNV_NVWillow.esp
UWHNV_Displays_EVE.esp
UWHNV-Willow-Cook.esp
(renamed merge patch).esp

 

 

im also using NMCs texture pack set to large.

 

im aware that it is a VERY large mod list but i have never had a problem getting through the main quest until today and haven't made any major change to my mods for a while (besides turning willownv off (along with files required for it) and using niner instead (not currently using him as having to many companions just makes an hours worth of pushing to get through doorways (someone should make a mod where companions move out of the way if pushed :P)

 

any help would be appreciated

Edited February 12, 2013 by rmp123

[JimboUK]

Is that card 1GB? Something I've noticed is NV seems to be very funny with VRAM, I would try a smaller version of NMC and see if that helps, just overwrite the one you have. I used to get a lot of crashes with a 1GB and NMC, now I have a 3GB card and it's rock solid.

 

Don't set the time scale to 1, it can cause crashes.

[luthienanarion]

The game will crash when you run out of VRAM, regardless of system RAM usage. Unless you're using a monster video card like jim_uk, don't even think about using the 'large' NMC pack. Also, you're right at the limit of stability when looking at the number of plugins you are loading. Get the merged More Perks from the NVEC downloads and replace all of those More Perks plugins with it, and that should give you some breathing room.

[rmp123]

cool ill try some of that now..... also i know about the "limit" for mods as i myself reached mine at around 150 (started losing textures and such) so im down now to about 140

also yes i have only 1gb of vram ill try medium see if that fixes it and thanks for the merged more perks....should free up some space for MORE mods

Edited February 12, 2013 by rmp123

[rmp123]

after starting a new save with medium instead of large and it crashes right outside of the store in goodsprings atleast now im only geting 1.3 million kb memory usage before the crash

Edited February 12, 2013 by rmp123

[BarefootWarrior]

I'm a bit confused here. Are you using NMC"s 'Large' texture packs? If so, that could be a problem. My system is not low end by any means, but I had issues with the 'Large' texture pack as well. I removed the large texture packs (using the script provided at NMC's page under options.) and then re installed the 'Medium (Performance) packs. you don't loose anything (detail) by using the Medium packs. The reason for this is (if I understand correctly) the 'Large' texture packs are all 1024 X 1024 textures. The 'Medium' texture packs are 512 X 512 and don't take as much in resources to render on screen. Also, unlike the NMC's texture packs from FO3, the FONV NMC texture packs include the normals maps.

 

I would also recommend the 'stutter remover' which limits the game to 30 FPS. I was running at 60 FPS and having crashing issues, I'm not sure, but I don't think the game engine handles a high frame rate to well. Just my opinion, but it seems to solve a lot of problems with both FO3 and FONV.

I am now running the Medium texture packs at Ultra-High settings without any issues. I am using the fv4gb enabler and FOSE as well. My system specs are...

Asus Crossfire IV Formula motherboard
Phenom II T1055 six core AMD
Coolit ECO R-120 liquid cooling for CPU
Vengeance DDR3 1600 RAM / 16 Gig
Zotac GTX GeForce 660 Ti / 2 GB 310.70 drivers
Corsair AX 850 power supply / 70A on 12V rails
Creative Labs Supreme FX XFI audio
Cooler Master Sniper Case / black edition
28 wide screen i_Inc monitor, not the best but works nicely 1920 X 1200
Win 7 64 Ulitmate

Hope this helps. :thumbsup:

Edited February 12, 2013 by BarefootWarrior

[rmp123]

I'm a bit confused here. Are you using NMC"s 'Large' texture packs? If so, that could be a problem. My system is not low end by any means, but I had issues with the 'Large' texture pack as well. I removed the large texture packs (using the script provided at NMC's page under options.) and then re installed the 'Medium (Performance) packs. you don't loose anything (detail) by using the Medium packs. The reason for this is (if I understand correctly) the 'Large' texture packs are all 1024 X 1024 textures. The 'Medium' texture packs are 512 X 512 and don't take as much in resources to render on screen. Also, unlike the NMC's texture packs from FO3, the FONV NMC texture packs include the normals maps.

 

I would also recommend the 'stutter remover' which limits the game to 30 FPS. I was running at 60 FPS and having crashing issues, I'm not sure, but I don't think the game engine handles a high frame rate to well. Just my opinion, but it seems to solve a lot of problems with both FO3 and FONV.

 

I am now running the Medium texture packs at Ultra-High settings without any issues. I am using the fv4gb enabler and FOSE as well. My system specs are...

 

 

no i switched to medium and it still does it. im also using the 4gb enabler and nvse. iv just decided to start from a whole new install and see if i cant get it back to working order before i try again. this time starting with medium and using some of the suggestions such as your stutter remover suggestion and the nvec version of more perks to hopefuly clear up some of my load list. my problem is mainly that after only a few minutes my games ram usage can go from a stable 500k to over 1.5 million kb of ram from just walking around in goodsprings on a new save....so i figure there has gotta be something i broke or such that is causing this iv had steam delete my local content as well as deleted the fallout new Vegas folder from my steam directory...im almost done re-installing so im going to make those changes after and see if it helps fortunately there was only a few mods that i installed manually (mostly just texture replaces and a few other mods) Edited February 13, 2013 by rmp123

[JimboUK]

If you've not installed the texture pack yet then don't, try it without first. If it works OK then make a back up of the data folder and then try the textures, that way if it all goes horribly wrong you can always revert back to the clean data folder.

[innova889]

hello all ...

i have a gtx 670 2gb ram, 16 gb ram, i3-3.7k(i think)....

but i can only run skyrim at 60fps whereas i ahve seen people running at more than 100 fps with lesser configs ....

any help wud be appreciated :)

[JimboUK]

This is the wrong forum but in answer to your question you probably have Vsync enabled with limits the frame rate, keep it enabled or very strange things may start to happen.