Marxist ßastard Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I would put it behind me. Ebony Smuggler is apparently doing that, as he even said that he is going to change his name and attempt to move past the "ebony thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 ...Oh, yes, and give me your lunch money. LMFAO Lets keep it to the PMs (not PMS...as seems to be evident here) people, thats where biatching between one another is meant to be, not here :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surian Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 MB, all things aside, you're being childish. The fact is that the guy was insulted for no reason at all. You did bad and so did others. Now you're just being rude and sarcastic to everyone in the forum because you feel insulted. Well, thats ok, i've talked to you on IRC and you seem very nice. Just move past this and be the man in this situation and just walk away from this pointless mudslinging, it does nothing but breed contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Atti_ Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Well... i wouldnt really care of that Pm thing if it was the first one(or the second) but no.. in the last months i got around 5 Pms just like that...And even if i were the noobest noob i wouldnt ask 'What do teamsters do?'what should i answer to this? a: 'oh we are collecting ebony for the devs to build MEmod'or the popular b ' wait and See' ?:Dor c 'PLz search before posting?'i say there is a limit for stupidity... even the ' C4n i g3t t3h 0n3 r1ng? ' question is better... why? cause i can say the previous 'B' and 'C' answer without making it sound STUPID :PAnd mind that after all these gone through my mind i've sent him a 'nearly' "nice" reply;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojlnir Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Marxist, Your response was uncalled for and you know it. A simple apology (done by PM so that you wouldn't feel as though your precious image was sullied) would have sufficed and we could have had done with this. However, you persist in your error and, in an attempt to divert attention from yourself, flail madly at those around you in order to bolster your fragile forum psyche. Everyone on this site was at one time or another a noob, and for many of them this may be the first time they have participated on a forum. It categorically unfair and flat rude to behave in such a manner, particularly when members are needed to click the ad banners so that Dark can keep this service (for which we pay nothing) available for use. Your disrespect and contempt for your fellow members, and by extension this site, is unfortunate. I would suggest that you follow your own advice posted in this very thread:Marxist ßastard Posted on Jul 4 2004, 07:16 PM I would put it behind me. You were, however, not alone in your response to Ebony and I find this even more disturbing. Rynos and Albareth are also model members of these forums and yet they engaged in senseless noob slaying. And for what? Does it make you guys feel better to beat up some random novice? If so, then frankly you need to leave your basements more. -M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandorssen Posted July 4, 2004 Author Share Posted July 4, 2004 One last thing I must take serious exception with, and clear the misrepresentation of my character about, is the subject of the original post being locked. I was made aware of that only after MB PM'd me. I then explained what had happened and he took it upon himself to personally insult me, question my integrity, and spurn all attempts at reconciliation. And this was after I made no less than two attempts at having the original thread unlocked and then reposted the thread. Here are the contents of that PM session: MB-I will not stand to be put on trial and not have a chance to respond appropriately. I will not stand to have someone question my actions and set up a farse of a debate, where one can only express "black-and-white" opinions and where only one side of the argument is shown. Lastly, I will not stand to have someone who copy-and-pasted the same response to every n00b thread for a matter of months just to get a word in say that I didn't give proper respect to someone who wishes to discuss new and interesting ways of gathering things from rocks. Unlock your poll. Either that, or put it up for deletion and allow a real debate to take place -- one where someone "just walking in" won't assume that all can be read from orange bars at the top of his screen. Me-MB, The poll was accidently locked, and by putting it in the debates I meant for a real debate to take place... I've been waiting for a Moderator to login so I can ask him/her to unlock it. There is no way for me to unlock a locked thread. I'm quite sorry for the inconvenience, and I hope to have it remedied as soon as it is possible. I look forward to a healthy debate. Sincerely, /A. VanDorssen -------------------------- MB-Put it up for deletion and create a new thread -- one without a poll. ...And if you expect me to believe that was an accident, I am disgusted. I know you "well-meaning" types. You planned this as an attempt to boost your "moral superiority" ranking by saying it was meant to prevent flames later, then sit back, watching as the uninformed masses simply fellate you with votes as no other point of view is presented. Me-As I said, I pm'd Dark One to unlock it... As far as the locking, I am on my Mac using Safari web browser and it has this unnerving tendency to automatically check all the empty check boxes on the screen. The one for "making a poll only" is not a box I normally look for and it was checked by accident (or rather left checked). I do not wish to take anything you said personal. Nowhere have I claimed moral superiority nor have I explained the accidental locking with claims of preventing a flame-fest, for which you seem all to eager. In fact, with your outwardly inflammatory messages to me you are only cementing my position that you were or are spoiling for a confrontation. However, you've come to the wrong person, if that was your intent. I want you to know that I have and currently do respect your positions and usually agree with them... I don't want you to loose that respect I have for you (which I think is at least in some way of value) by you becoming overworked over this matter. I will not engage in a flame-fest with you, but I will stand by my position (as I would expect you to do) until some one puts forth a compelling argument otherwise. That is the great thing about this... we can agree to disagree and still respect one another. I just hope you do not do anything that would make me loose that respect for you. /A. VanDorssen ----------------------- MB-Respect should be mutual. And I've no respect for the condescending, hypocritical liar who has posted upwards of five polls and has simply has an "accident" in a convenient situation such as this. Me-I would point out that those were done on my PC and Internet Explorer... I have recently started using my Mac again as a regular computer after running it as a server for some months, providing free image hosting to some of those on this forum. During that time I used it only as a server and I have not become experienced in using this version of Safari yet. That is why I get a ton of email lately whenever someone replies to a thread I have posted in. I bought a new dedicated server and am now using my Mac full time again. I would ask that you retract your previous statement. Think before you speak. ----------------------- Me-The poll has been reposted and is open. However there is part of this that I do not feel has been satisfactorily resolved. You've personally insulted me, called me names, and laid out groundless accusations against me, albeit you've had the good taste (and sense) to do so in private. I have always had the decency to admit when I have been wrong, or apologize for when I use harsh words in a fit of passion. I hope you do as well. This is not to say that you have to retract what you said in the Ebony post (I actually considered your post to be of the milder and more constructive of the lot), but rather to make amends for personally insulting me and questioning my integrity without cause to do so. If we can reach a nice conclusion, I am perfectly willing to drop the matter and continue being your friend on this forum. Sincerely, /A. VanDorssen As UberBender and Ember can personally attest to, I have been in the middle of a server switch. When you get used to doing things one way on one system it takes a while to acclimate to a different system, unless of course you're MB. And Atti, I did list you as a possible exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Vandorssen, I am simply appalled. Some of the older forum members may recall an incident where PMs were disclosed to the general public. This was certainly looked down upon, and was between an admin and a recently banned member! If this sort of activity can experience the resistance it experienced here in a situation such as that, then I certainly hope you've got a damn good reason to do something as detestable as this... ...Unless, of course, you're just reinforcing your position as a noble individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandorssen Posted July 4, 2004 Author Share Posted July 4, 2004 Vandorssen, I am simply appalled. Some of the older forum members may recall an incident where PMs were disclosed to the general public. This was certainly looked down upon, and was between an admin and a recently banned member! If this sort of activity can experience the resistance it experienced here in a situation such as that, then I certainly hope you've got a damn good reason to do something as detestable as this... ...Unless, of course, you're just reinforcing your position as a noble individual. I am only removing the veil of questionable integrity from my name that you so casually laid out. Unduly questioning my motives and personally insulting me. Then twisting it around by saying that is what I did to you! Or rather that I made personal attacks against you when I had done nothing of the sort! And good try with the Thomas incident... 9 out of 10 for effort. But that has nothing to do with it. Had you simply retracted your blatantly false accusations I would not have had to post the PM session to clear up your severe misrepresentation and distortion of the facts. But again, I guess that is the only way you could have gained any credibility in this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Whatever integrity you have ever had, in my eyes, is gone now. Activity such as that is inexcusable. If you cannot give me the civility that was expected between an administrator and the person that he banned, then you should see about growing a tail so that you can make the transformation from man to rat complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandorssen Posted July 4, 2004 Author Share Posted July 4, 2004 Whatever integrity you have ever had, in my eyes, is gone now. Activity such as that is inexcusable. And what activity might that be? It is fine for you to take a fact and twist it to your own purpose, but when I lay out the facts, unfiltered and without bias, it is suddenly appalling? My, my, we do have a twisted sense of scruples, now don't we. I only regret that I had to come down to your level to try to clear my name. Or rather, did I? And I lost all respect for you after you took the proverbial olive branch from my hand and stuck me in the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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