[FO3/FNV] I need help downloading ENBs

[TLC77]

I am going to go through this quickly as to not waste time. All of my information will be in bullet points. Sorry for sounding so abrasive.

• I followed all the instructions, and downloaded the latest version of ENB from the official website

• I extracted the things from the wrapper version

• Whenever I load the launcher, my cursor starts spinning with the blue circle and then the launcher crashes

• If I uninstall the d3d9.dll from the FNV folder, then the game will launch, but ENB won't be present

• If I use any other d3d9.dll (say system32) then it won't load ENB either way

• I tried downloading ENB with the injector version, but it didn't work anyway

• I downloaded the directx june 2010 runtime thingamajig and it didn't work

• I decided to turn off the steam overlay (I had it to run OBSE) but no

• I remember trying to download some ancient version of directx which told me that in order to run it, i had to have a WinXP, Millennia or Vista

• I tried disabling all of the effects that ENB needed to function in the launcher but as you can guess, it didn't work

• (Note: I can't get help from Enbdev himself because... well he banned me from his forums. Also these problems persist for any Gamebryo games, such as Oblivion)

My only explanation as to why this is happening is because Fellout, but even then it doesn't work when I disable it. I also have some "crapware" such as Nvidia GeForce Experience. Here is my load order for both games: https://imgur.com/a/gQHM53T https://imgur.com/a/m5XGLhS. Please and thank you.

Edited October 4, 2020 by TLC77

[M48A5]

Fellout is loading too soon and is out of order, see the description page.

 

Mart's is out of order, see the description page.

 

You should only use one fix mod.

 

What do you have installed that does not show in the load order?

 

Has the game been made large address aware?

 

Is the game not in program files?

[TLC77]

Fellout is loading too soon and is out of order, see the description page.

 

Mart's is out of order, see the description page.

 

You should only use one fix mod.

 

What do you have installed that does not show in the load order?

 

Has the game been made large address aware?

 

Is the game not in program files?

I have 2 .txt files with all my installed mods (! signs means .zip .7z .z files while * means other files)

FO3:

Arefu Expanded

-AE Hints

-AE Data Files

-AE ESP and ESM

-AE Walkthrough

Civis Romanus

-CR Unofficial FO3 Fixes Dialogues

-CR Unofficial FO3 Fixes

Fellout

-Fellout

-DLC Support

-Fellout Nights Restored

More Perks

-More Perks

-More Perks Broken Steel

-More Perks Mothership Zeta

-More Perks Operation Anchorage

-More Perks Point Lookout

-More Perks Pitt

Stewie's Tweaks

-Stewie's Tweaks

-Stewie's Tweaks INI

TSC

-TSC Main

-Motheship Zeta Crew

-TSC Lighting Fixes

-TSC Olympus Bridge Lighting Fix

-TSC Olympus Commander's Quarters Lighting Fix

UPP

-UPP Experience Perks

-UPP Original Perks

-UPP Pack 1

-UPP Pack 2

Vortex

-Large Patch May

-NMCs Texture Pack Maximum

WWM

-Compability Patch by Hikky71

-More Quests Part Three

-More Quests Part two

-More Quests Part One

!Awesome Color Enchancer

!Beta022/Fallout Original Weapons

!Better Clutter Collection

!Blackwolf Backpacks

!Can Has Recoil

!Chems and Meds Retexture

!Enemy Ranks and Legendaries

!Enchanced Blood Textures

!Fallout 3 Weapon Overhaul All DLC

!Fallout Character Overhaul Races

!Fallout Street Lights

!Faster Pipboy Faster

!Flora Overhaul Dead Edition

!FO3 Redesigned HD

!GNR Enchanced

!Graffiti

!Hall of Equipment All in One

!HD Fire

!Hi Res Skill Books

!Level Up Workaround

!Loot Menu

!Marts Mutant Mod

!Max Level 99

!MGs Neat Clutter

!More Map Markers

!NMCs Texture Pack

!New Clutter Pack

!New Vegas Perks

!Nightmare Realm

!Precision Collision

!Realistic HDR Lighting

!Rebuild the Capital

!Rivet City FPS

!Simply Uncut

!Smooth Light

!Stealth Kills Enabled

!Ultimate Companion Overhaul

!V_4/Better Game Perfomance

!Vandr HD Creatures

!Vannila UI Plus

!Washington's Malevolence

*Archive Invalidation Invalidated.exe

*Slower Degradation (-25%)

*Unofficial FO3 Patch.exe

FNV:

Asterra's Fixes

-Asterra's Many Fixes FPGE

-Asterra's Many Fixes NMCs Texture Pack

-Asterra's Many Fixes

-No More Double Open and Close Sounds

BBD

-BBD File 01 Meshes

-BBD File 02 Textures Part 1

-BBD File 03 Textures Part 2

-BBD File 04 Sound

-BBD File 05 ESM and Misc

-BBD Update 1dot2

Dragbody's Mods

-Dragbody's Armors

-Dragbody's Creature Pack

FCO

-Fallout Character Overhaul

-Fallout Character Overhaul Pink Faces Fix

Fellout

-Fellout

-Fellout Old World Blues

Functional Post Game Ending

-FPGE YUP Patch

-FPGE

More Perks

-More Perks

-More Perks Dead Money

-More Perks Honest Hearts

-More Perks Old World Blues

Simply Uncut

-Simply Uncut The March West

-Simply Uncut DLC Dialogue

-Simply Uncut

Stewie's Tweaks

-Stewie's Tweaks INI

-Stewie's Tweaks

Vortex

-NMCs Textures Large Part 1

-NMCs Textures Large Part 2

-NMCs Textures Large Part 3

!All DLC in One/???

!Almost Perfect

!Ammo Count Memory

!BF4 Weapons

!Blackwolf Backpack

!Classic Flamer Pistol

!Commonwealth Surplus

!Cut Sewers Restored

!DOI Weapons Pack

!Durability [Mod]

!Enchanced Blood Textures

!Enchanced Camera

!Equipment Restoration Project

!ESP/Convenient Fast Travel Markers

!Experimental Mirv

!Fallout New California

!Faster Pip Boy Faster

!FNV 4GB Patch

!FO3 Perks

!FO4 Power Armor

!Four Winds Restored

!Furniture Pack

!Impact Michael Bay

!Karmic Balance

!Keys Fix

!L38 Lights

!Level 99 and Perk Every Level

!Loot Menu

!Main Story Alterations

!Marilyn Companion

!More Skill Books

!Music Pack for Extended Radio New Vegas

!Navmesh Fixes and Improvements

!New Vegas Redesigned

!NV Lil Bits

!Ojo Bueno Ultra

!Outside Bets

!Perfomance of the Gods

!Precision Collision

!R.S.A Weapons

!Real Recoil

!Right To Bear Arms Vendors Untouched

!Saxxons Quest Collection

!Sprint Mod

!Strip Wall Billboards

!Cut Note and Terminal Restoration

!Weapon Mod Menu

!Transportalponder With Companions

!UIO

!Unlimited Followers

!Unofficial NVSE Patch

!Update V11/Project Weaponry

!Upgrades from the Commonwealth

!Using the Console Doesn't Disable Achievements

!Vanilla UI Plus

!Wasteland Clothing HD Full Pack

!Wasteland Flora Overhaul

!Weapon Mods Expanded

!x2/Pip Boy Light Mod

!YUP

*MorePerksFNV.esp

Why should I make the game 3gb when I patched it with 4gb for both games?

 

The games are in Program Files because otherwise, Steam won't launch. However, I added the Steam/steamapps/common folder into my antiviruses' exclusion list.

[M48A5]

Adding to antivirus exclusion list does not prevent the Windows UAC from stopping any changes to be made to any .exe file in Program Files. The only way to exclude the UAC is to move Steam and all the games outside of Program Files.

[TLC77]

Adding to antivirus exclusion list does not prevent the Windows UAC from stopping any changes to be made to any .exe file in Program Files. The only way to exclude the UAC is to move Steam and all the games outside of Program Files.

Can I just disable it? Moving Steam out of Program Files is too much of a hassle. Plus I fear that it may mess up my mods.

[M48A5]

No you can't. Trying to disable the UAC will only disable the warnings. This is a known problem with the Steam version and there are instructions on Steam on how to move the Steam folder and any games.

Edited October 4, 2020 by M48A5

[dubiousintent]

Just to reinforce that advice, here is a standard initial reply to similar problems with some more details:

 

* Did you install Steam to it's default location? (GOG is not a problem as it places the game correctly.) If so, please see the wiki "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article for why the original default Steam behavior of installing games to the "C:\Program Files" or "C:\Program Files(x86)" folder tree was bad (they learned better, and don't do that any more but didn't change it for older games); and why "disabling UAC and running as Administrator" is NOT sufficient, with instructions how to move it. Among other things, later versions of Windows (since the game was released) force files in "system protected" folder trees to be "read only" regardless of how you set them manually. It includes instructions on how to correctly move the Steam folders out of that folder path.

Don't move it to a folder under "User\Documents" either, as "executable" files are not permitted to run from there for similar "anti-malware" reasons.

This is the single most important thing you can do to fix and protect yourself against problems in the future. As much of a PITA as that is, it's never going to be any easier than now. System updates often cause issues with games installed to these folder trees. With the game moved out of the default location you will not need to be running it as an "Administrator Account", which is safer. Please see the 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article as well.

If you did move Steam out of the default location, then likely any access privilege problem is one of "File and Folder permissions" on the parent "root" folder under which you installed the games. If this is not set correctly to allow at least "System", "Administrators", and "Users" to have "Full Control" then you can't overwrite other files or make changes. You then (while logged in as an "Administrator Account") need to enable the "Properties | Security | Advanced | Change Permissions" setting of the parent folder to enable the box: "Replace all child object permissions with inheritable permissions from this object", so those changes get applied to the existing files and sub-folders.

 

Please see also 'Solutions to Post-Processor (ENB/SweetFX et. al.) problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

-Dubious-

[TLC77]

Just to reinforce that advice, here is a standard initial reply to similar problems with some more details:

 

* Did you install Steam to it's default location? (GOG is not a problem as it places the game correctly.) If so, please see the wiki "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article for why the original default Steam behavior of installing games to the "C:\Program Files" or "C:\Program Files(x86)" folder tree was bad (they learned better, and don't do that any more but didn't change it for older games); and why "disabling UAC and running as Administrator" is NOT sufficient, with instructions how to move it. Among other things, later versions of Windows (since the game was released) force files in "system protected" folder trees to be "read only" regardless of how you set them manually. It includes instructions on how to correctly move the Steam folders out of that folder path.

 

Don't move it to a folder under "User\Documents" either, as "executable" files are not permitted to run from there for similar "anti-malware" reasons.

 

This is the single most important thing you can do to fix and protect yourself against problems in the future. As much of a PITA as that is, it's never going to be any easier than now. System updates often cause issues with games installed to these folder trees. With the game moved out of the default location you will not need to be running it as an "Administrator Account", which is safer. Please see the 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article as well.

 

If you did move Steam out of the default location, then likely any access privilege problem is one of "File and Folder permissions" on the parent "root" folder under which you installed the games. If this is not set correctly to allow at least "System", "Administrators", and "Users" to have "Full Control" then you can't overwrite other files or make changes. You then (while logged in as an "Administrator Account") need to enable the "Properties | Security | Advanced | Change Permissions" setting of the parent folder to enable the box: "Replace all child object permissions with inheritable permissions from this object", so those changes get applied to the existing files and sub-folders.

 

Please see also 'Solutions to Post-Processor (ENB/SweetFX et. al.) problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

 

-Dubious-

Thanks for your response. Unfortunately I won't be moving the Steam folder out of program files because I don't want to reinstall all my games. However, when I tried giving full control to all of the users in the Steam folder, it removed the full control settings from "CREATOR OWNER" when I tried giving it full control.

[dubiousintent]

You CAN NOT make any changes to the permissions of the "system protected" folders. The system will automatically reset them back to what it wants, because it is protecting itself against "malware" (even you). This is why we say you have to move it out of there. You are just "spinning your wheels" and going nowhere.

 

If you have a second "drive" or "partition" you can create a new "Steam Library" there, and move games one at a time as needed out from the "C:" drive to there. If you do not have a second drive or partition but do have sufficient "free disk space" on your "C:" drive, you can create a "partition". The process is relatively easy and well documented on the internet.

 

-Dubious-