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So ever since i got the dragonborn dlc, my game keeps crashing. Every time i use a loading screen in game (fast travel, leaving solitude, etc.) my game crashes. I am about 70% sure its a mod problem but i can't think of which mod would be conflicting. And i have over 200+ mods so i don't know if the best idea really would be to uninstall all and re install one by one. Can someone please help me out? Here is my Boss Log (only recognized plugins.)

 

 

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ok, so i reverted to an older save before going to solstheim, and i realized that the crashes are only around certain areas of solstheim. One example is i crash when getting near earth shrines (except the one in raven rock), and i crash when going to Hope Island. I also get an infinite loading screen when trying to return to skyrim. And all of these crashes are ctds except for the infinite loading screen ones.

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The same issue occurred for me with the Dragonborn DLC on the island of Solsteim. Except it was worse, crashes every few minutes; the game was unplayable to say the least. Having over 150 mods installed, and of course started troubleshooting by removing all of them. I also removed all the added textures from mods as well. None of this fixed the issue. After some more googling I found some people having successfully fixed their own problems by changing some Skyrim.ini settings back to default levels, specifically the uGridsToLoad setting. When the game first came out I tweaked this file for better LOD and less texture pop-ins (maybe you did too). By default some of the following settings aren't in the file meaning you created them manually, if they aren't there the game uses defaults.

Here are the settings that made my game unplayable when in Solsteim:

[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
uGridsToLoad=7
uExterior Cell Buffer=102
iPreloadSizeLimit=262144000

After some testing with this, these settings allowed uninterrupted gameplay for me:

[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
uGridsToLoad=5
uExterior Cell Buffer=36

Sure, the distant textures don't look as good anymore and there are a few texture pop-ins but I can actually play without crashes now. What good is a better looking game if you can't even play the damn thing anyway? Hopefully this helps.

Check out this old post here on changing and how to properly revert Skyrim.ini settings.

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/739961-ugridstoload-dont-work/

-MJ

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The same issue occurred for me with the Dragonborn DLC on the island of Solsteim. Except it was worse, crashes every few minutes; the game was unplayable to say the least. Having over 150 mods installed, and of course started troubleshooting by removing all of them. I also removed all the added textures from mods as well. None of this fixed the issue. After some more googling I found some people having successfully fixed their own problems by changing some Skyrim.ini settings back to default levels, specifically the uGridsToLoad setting. When the game first came out I tweaked this file for better LOD and less texture pop-ins (maybe you did too). By default some of the following settings aren't in the file meaning you created them manually, if they aren't there the game uses defaults.

 

Here are the settings that made my game unplayable when in Solsteim:

 

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

uGridsToLoad=7

uExterior Cell Buffer=102

iPreloadSizeLimit=262144000

 

After some testing with this, these settings allowed uninterrupted gameplay for me:

 

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

uGridsToLoad=5

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

 

Sure, the distant textures don't look as good anymore and there are a few texture pop-ins but I can actually play without crashes now. What good is a better looking game if you can't even play the damn thing anyway? Hopefully this helps.

 

Check out this old post here on changing and how to properly revert Skyrim.ini settings.

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/739961-ugridstoload-dont-work/

 

-MJ

 

Glad to see that your problem was solved, MJ. But unfortunately that's not my case - I have uGridstoLoad=5 all the time and I can't enjoy the game right now because of the crash, frezze all *$ like that. Even the "Quick Save" now is slow responding - before Dragonborn DLC it only took 1 second to do the quick save but now in Solsteim it took more than 5 seconds, and often the saves are 'corrupted' when load later!! I think I'll have to live with that because there won't be any 'official' fix. Really disappointed.

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@SoliduzMJ:

 

Your game crashed with

uGridsToLoad=7

uExterior Cell Buffer=102

 

From what I have read, if you use uGridsToLoad=7, then the value for uExterior Cell Buffer should be (7 + 1) x 2 = 64

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@SoliduzMJ:

 

Your game crashed with

uGridsToLoad=7

uExterior Cell Buffer=102

 

From what I have read, if you use uGridsToLoad=7, then the value for uExterior Cell Buffer should be (7 + 1) x 2 = 64

 

That's right, uGridtoLoad (x) should be raised (x+1) (x+1) = y (y=uExterior Cell Buffer)

 

...but besides that I can only tell my experience with the CTD/endless loading screen hell that occured in Skyrim after a certain update:

 

To keep it short (but after days of testing...):

 

-I had no corrupt mesh or texture

-I had no skeleton issues

-I had no script errors according to my papyrus logs

-newest SKSE version, newest SkyUI and MCM

 

I realized that it was just a general performance issue...so you have several options (and you should use at least one or several of them in combination even if you have a high end rig):

 

-decrease exaggerated grafic settings or use an ENB to still get quality grafics without too much stressing your hardware

-decrease egaggerated .ini settings (8k shadow resolution nobody needs and uGridtoload 7/64 is already far too much if you are running some texture mods and the official high rez patches)

-downgrade mods from 8k rez to maybe 4k or even 4k rez mods to 2k mods

-maybe deinstall some texture mods completely

 

or do what I did:

 

-uncheck all Skyrim offcial high resolution .esp files and get a performance gain of almost 100%, keep all your texture mods and your grafic settings (but maybe still keep ugrid at 5/36, uGrid sucks performance without end).

 

I have an i7 2600K, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, 2 x Asus Geforce 670 GTX SLI 4 GB VRAM (each...and yes I know it won't be doubled by SLI) and a SSD as harddrive and after I unchecked the .esps from hell I am able to play Skyrim almost CTDless again (I still have exaggerated grafic settings - 4x SSAA, 8x SGSAA for transp. AA, 16x AF, ambient occlusion quality - and run up to 100 mods now)....not to forget: curse Bethesda three times after doing that, it's important!

 

If 99% of your Skyrim is already covered by texture mods the additional loading of the high rez .esps won't bring much visual improvement, in fact their visual improvement bears no proportion to the performance loss they cause.

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