Kellao Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 two actually..1 - Maggie (Billy Creel's rescue)2 - Harden Simms (Lucas' son) I think I'll have to agree to disagree, imho using that nuke is worse than a head shot especially if it Ghoulifies anybody (a living hell that'd be) if I was ghoulified I'd probably want my brain to meet bullet. nope. nuke would eviscerate you instantaneously. you wouldn't feel a thing. a gun shot you would feel something it would be quick and painful. and thats just you. and if your a ghoul your still alive. better alive than dead. also you survived a nuclear blast. if I was a ghoul id be rather happy with how my luck turned out. sure I would be ugly but who cares? havent you seen the hunchback of notredame (not disney the old black and white) or read the book? you dont judge a book by its cover. Also that does not justify why you would want to kill a kid directly. useing the bomb is indirect. Your job was to blow up the city. if anybody got in the way thats too bad for them. your still shooting at something that is too scared to defend itself. really wouldn't you have better things to do anyway? and besides if you want to look at it from a dark side...why waste your bullets on a kid? whats he/she gonna do? two things. Jack and Sh*t. thats what the kids going to do. and theres ghouls that are over 200 years of age...why wouldn't you want to be ghoul? its the next best thing to immortality. over 200 years of life. thats pretty good. not that you can use it too effectively in a world like Fallout but its better than nothing. we all have to die sometime why not hold it off? "oh no im ugly now im going to kill myself" riiiight...okay you do that. yeah turn down 200 years plus to see the world and do things that in a normal human life span you could never hope to do. but really? who the hell wants to kill a kid Directly and painfully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skotte Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 "who the hell wants to kill a kid Directly and painfully?" Why would anyone want to any of the evil things the game allows. if not encourage. Micky, the waterbeggar wouldn't do squat either but the game allows for a "lead-based lobotomy" though. It's not that I want to kill a kid. I just don't think they should be playing by a different set of rules. on Ghouls: Sure they have a long life but even Nova has said she wouldn't bed with Gob. And she likes him. Well, 4 AM time to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorZio Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Over at the bethesda forums, the facist mods don't even allow discussion about child killer mods. Ah well. Yep, that's pretty much the definition of a fascist: somebody who won't even tolerate discussions about killing children. ;D :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscripted Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Over at the bethesda forums, the facist mods don't even allow discussion about child killer mods. Ah well. Yep, that's pretty much the definition of a fascist: somebody who won't even tolerate discussions about killing children. ;D Definition of a fascist: Somebody who won't tolerate discussion about a subject at all, regardless, not even in the theoretical. So yeah, he got that one correct. And yes, sometimes I want to kill the kids in F3 because they are annoying little brats (the mayor and Princess in Little Lamplight). And sometimes I just want to play an all and out evil player which would include killing everybody in a town to include the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellao Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 And yes, sometimes I want to kill the kids in F3 because they are annoying little brats (the mayor and Princess in Little Lamplight). And sometimes I just want to play an all and out evil player which would include killing everybody in a town to include the children. aint that a bit much? lamplight is just filled with a bunch of scared kids. thats all. they arent brats they're just afraid of something they dont understand like adult hood. and killing children isnt necessary in order to be evil. besides you know whats more evil than killing those kids anyway? going to the republic of dave and killing all the adults and leaveing the kids alive. those kids cant handle themselves out in that rusty old town. so go figure. also what does it prove? that you can kill a small child? yeah thats the best in bragging rights I suppose. nothing to brag about killing a superhuman behemoth with unarmed melee or without the fat man...nah killing small defenseless children is more worthy of bragging :rolleyes: well you have fun killing those kids. im going to challenge myself by fighting something worth fighting and at that same time not be a sicko about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skotte Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 aint that a bit much? lamplight is just filled with a bunch of scared kids. thats all. they arent brats they're just afraid of something they dont understand like adult hood. and killing children isnt necessary in order to be evil. besides you know whats more evil than killing those kids anyway? going to the republic of dave and killing all the adults and leaveing the kids alive. those kids cant handle themselves out in that rusty old town. so go figure. also what does it prove? that you can kill a small child? yeah thats the best in bragging rights I suppose. nothing to brag about killing a superhuman behemoth with unarmed melee or without the fat man...nah killing small defenseless children is more worthy of bragging :rolleyes: well you have fun killing those kids. im going to challenge myself by fighting something worth fighting and at that same time not be a sicko about it. So.. is it the fact that the children are typically defenseless that you've taken such a strong stance against the removal of their "godmode"? So what would you feel about someone putting the children in a position to cause harm IE not afraid & armed, I am genuinely curious as what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellao Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 So.. is it the fact that the children are typically defenseless that you've taken such a strong stance against the removal of their "godmode"? So what would you feel about someone putting the children in a position to cause harm IE not afraid & armed, I am genuinely curious as what you think thats not the main reason but that is a part of it. kids are armed and not afraid so what? its still a child. a child is much more than "just another person". a child is very young. he/she has not had much time to experience the good things earth and life provide us (don't give me any of that emo "but life sucks" crap. some of us prefer to be optimistic. try it some time you might just like it.). Killing a kid is a rather serious moral crime to me. because not only are you murdering but your also cheating them too. your cheating that child out of having some sort of life and living it. you were given the chance to age, you were already exposed to things in your life like love, loss, happiness, friendship, family (this does not mean biological. what I call a family is anyone who loves you in a manner that they care enough about you to watch out for you and try hard to always be there for you.), etc. at an age like the characters (roughly 18 or 19) we had our chance to experience that. if your as young as the character it might not be the most time you have had. but that does not change the fact that a child has had less time to experience life in its fullest. even in an post apocalyptic wasteland you can live maybe not comfortable life. but you will still have those things that you can experience. Friends (Amata is a good example) family (james), and simply leaving the vault is experiencing the outside world. its not a comfortable life but its better than none. and no one should be cheated out of experiencing life. as far as what to do if your being shot at by a kid with an armed gun...well. assuming you attacked the kid you deserve it. and if not you could always disarm with vats it always has been an option and its a good option that I would recommend. and if your talking real life. run. your not a fallout 3 character lol. a gun WILL kill you no matter who its shot by. of course do you really expect a kid to know how to use a gun? you cant just pick up a gun and go "bang bang" you need to know how to hold it properly you need to make sure your loaded your safety needs to be turned off and im sure theres more things to do as well. but realistically if a kid ever has a gun and is threatening to shoot you. chances are he/she does not know how to properly handle it. one shot probably would miss and he/she would hurt themselves from the recoil. and im sure it would be painful for a kid. just run and call 911. I hope that better answers your question on what to do if children suddenly aren't afraid and armed. Of course a situation like this would be very rare. the only kids I know of that are like what you have described have been Brainwashed and live in Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marabunta5 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 an Idea Make Kids KIllable but godlike =) so No VATS Targetable More HP then a Behemoth on VERY hard but give them a .32 Pistol to make their attack a Bit fair eh :P well in the world of fallout Kids MUST Know how to hande weapons Using a Gun or Knife is part of daily Life There especialy for a wastelander also a Question why are There Kids in FO3 but no teenagers? (only in vault 101 There were a few like the PC) this seems Strange to me.. or were they all taken by raiders or sumwhat? the only closest persons that comes to teenagers are Sticky and all other bigtown residents and Angela Staley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkheart449 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 .32 pistols are really weak actuallyWhat they have in little Lamplight is a lot stronger....give then sniper rifles or at LEAST a .44 Mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellao Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 an Idea Make Kids KIllable but godlike =) so No VATS Targetable More HP then a Behemoth on VERY hard but give them a .32 Pistol to make their attack a Bit fair eh :P well in the world of fallout Kids MUST Know how to hande weapons Using a Gun or Knife is part of daily Life There especialy for a wastelander also a Question why are There Kids in FO3 but no teenagers? (only in vault 101 There were a few like the PC) this seems Strange to me.. or were they all taken by raiders or sumwhat? the only closest persons that comes to teenagers are Sticky and all other bigtown residents and Angela Staley... I really wish you people actually read what I typed as it is meaning full... dont forget about Ted Strayers son in rivet city hes a teenager. also your character is considered a teenager (the character is supposedly 18 or 19) oh and what about Ian West? hes a teen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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