HadToRegister Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just going to pop in here and mention that you shouldn't be using Standalone LOOT with Vortex, as Vortex already has LOOT built into it.I noticed that also, but LOOT gives the messages easier for what u need to repair or download or delete. Vortex u need to hover over icons or maybe i dont know how, but so far i dont mind it, seems helpful. The point is, standalone LOOT will "Fight" against Vortex if you have rules set in Vortex, because LOOT won't know about them, and vice versa. Just double-click on the BELL icon next to a Plugin in the Plugin tab of Vortex and a panel opens up, and you scroll down to see the Loot Message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanTurbinca Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just going to pop in here and mention that you shouldn't be using Standalone LOOT with Vortex, as Vortex already has LOOT built into it.I noticed that also, but LOOT gives the messages easier for what u need to repair or download or delete. Vortex u need to hover over icons or maybe i dont know how, but so far i dont mind it, seems helpful. The point is, standalone LOOT will "Fight" against Vortex if you have rules set in Vortex, because LOOT won't know about them, and vice versa. Just double-click on the BELL icon next to a Plugin in the Plugin tab of Vortex and a panel opens up, and you scroll down to see the Loot Message I only get the APPLY button in loot like 5% of times after pressing sort...but will try what u said also... Also...i messed around with ELFX dependencis in vortex, and changed some befores to afters and vice-versa....and i won like 5-7 fps overal anywhere outside area....i dont know what to say now.... Also if i put Fire Redux Effect before skyrim Particle Patch for ENB...the game crashes...if i put it after it works ok.... How do i know this in advance ? do i have to test 550 mods , maybe 10 at a time, and then spot the bad one... i already have 3 weeks since i downloaded SMIM my 1st mod and try to make the game work....and still havent played the story... I think GOD made a bad joke with this game or just tries to tease people.... I think the people uploading those videos of skyrim with mods on utube are only showing the in-betwen crashes game time.... Has anyone played skyrim with mods 2-3 hours with no issues ? i dont think so... Im gonna try on las time again with 1000% more attention toeverything...if it doesnt work fck it....already im curing bethesda in my mind for releasing such a trash state of a game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 already have 3 weeks since i downloaded SMIM my 1st mod and try to make the game work....and still havent played the story... I think GOD made a bad joke with this game or just tries to tease people.... Yeah, it's easy to spend more time modding the game than playing it. On the other hand, that's something that keeps me interested... :cool: Has anyone played skyrim with mods 2-3 hours with no issues ? i dont think so... I definitely have. In fact, it's been weeks since my last CTD. I got over 600 mods installed and the game is still rock solid. The "secrets":- Build up your load order slowly. Step by step. Add 10 mods or so, then test, test, test. Don't proceed adding new stuff until you're sure everything's working as intended.- Don't use complex mods (or only a few). The larger and more sophisticated a mod ist, the more likely it is to cause issues. I'm very hesitant regarding large overhauls for cities, combat, perk points, crafting.... Mods that have a large impact on many aspects of the game also have a high risk of breaking something... So I use weapon and armor mods, some carefully sorted NPC replacers, some buildings and textures, textures, textures. OFC I also need weather and lighting mods, Realistic Water Two and ENB... But these kinds of mods are relatively safe to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just going to pop in here and mention that you shouldn't be using Standalone LOOT with Vortex, as Vortex already has LOOT built into it.I noticed that also, but LOOT gives the messages easier for what u need to repair or download or delete. Vortex u need to hover over icons or maybe i dont know how, but so far i dont mind it, seems helpful. The point is, standalone LOOT will "Fight" against Vortex if you have rules set in Vortex, because LOOT won't know about them, and vice versa. Just double-click on the BELL icon next to a Plugin in the Plugin tab of Vortex and a panel opens up, and you scroll down to see the Loot Message I only get the APPLY button in loot like 5% of times after pressing sort...but will try what u said also... Also...i messed around with ELFX dependencis in vortex, and changed some befores to afters and vice-versa....and i won like 5-7 fps overal anywhere outside area....i dont know what to say now.... Also if i put Fire Redux Effect before skyrim Particle Patch for ENB...the game crashes...if i put it after it works ok.... How do i know this in advance ? do i have to test 550 mods , maybe 10 at a time, and then spot the bad one... i already have 3 weeks since i downloaded SMIM my 1st mod and try to make the game work....and still havent played the story... I think GOD made a bad joke with this game or just tries to tease people.... I think the people uploading those videos of skyrim with mods on utube are only showing the in-betwen crashes game time.... Has anyone played skyrim with mods 2-3 hours with no issues ? i dont think so... Im gonna try on las time again with 1000% more attention toeverything...if it doesnt work fck it....already im curing bethesda in my mind for releasing such a trash state of a game.... Rule of thumb when using Vortex, if Vortex isn't telling you there's a conflict, then don't fiddle around with your load order.Don't follow any "XXXxxxUltraMegaManxxxXXX's Super Deluxe Ultra Super Duper Load Order Guide" because those are only "Opinion Pieces" and trying to recreate them in Vortex nets you a cyclic load order like this(As one user found out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanTurbinca Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 TBH i had a lot of those after maybe installinf 2-3 mods at once...but if u do them every time its easy to get passed....usually the point that has the most lines from it....usually has 1 line in the opposite direction of the rest...if u flip that...all is solved (not 100% of times but mostly)...also i am aware that doing so might mess around with the plugins....but its good to also go to the plugin u want to flip rule from and check its descritption on site...most say when to load them...after or before all or some specific mods...so far im geting used to it.And how do i do this ? When using ENB Helper SE. It's recommended that you deactivate or delete this ESP file, but keep the resources (e.g. meshes, textures) installed with this mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 TBH i had a lot of those after maybe installinf 2-3 mods at once...but if u do them every time its easy to get passed....usually the point that has the most lines from it....usually has 1 line in the opposite direction of the rest...if u flip that...all is solved (not 100% of times but mostly)...also i am aware that doing so might mess around with the plugins....but its good to also go to the plugin u want to flip rule from and check its descritption on site...most say when to load them...after or before all or some specific mods...so far im geting used to it. And how do i do this ? When using ENB Helper SE. It's recommended that you deactivate or delete this ESP file, but keep the resources (e.g. meshes, textures) installed with this mod. Do exactly what it says, Just disable the esp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanTurbinca Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 W TBH i had a lot of those after maybe installinf 2-3 mods at once...but if u do them every time its easy to get passed....usually the point that has the most lines from it....usually has 1 line in the opposite direction of the rest...if u flip that...all is solved (not 100% of times but mostly)...also i am aware that doing so might mess around with the plugins....but its good to also go to the plugin u want to flip rule from and check its descritption on site...most say when to load them...after or before all or some specific mods...so far im geting used to it.And how do i do this ? When using ENB Helper SE. It's recommended that you deactivate or delete this ESP file, but keep the resources (e.g. meshes, textures) installed with this mod. Do exactly what it says, Just disable the esp. Will do that ! Thankx. I have another problem....seems to be random when i start up the game.. It seems like the game wants to read 2 different light/sun sources cause if i stand still all shadows face one direction, if i move mouse standing still just looking around, the shadow move in a different dirrection, same for when i move. I think the game is trying to read 2 files that generate light ? but i didnt install elfx - weathers - just enhancer + exterior.All i have that might be an issue along with ELFX is Ultimate Immersion ENB (with personal tweaks after - not to much) and NAT - natural atmospheric tamriel + ENB version...I dont have cycles or problems on plugins (all are cleaned)...and i draged NAT over ELFX and added rule that nat should always load after ELFX....still i get it now even more....should i put it before ELFX...and if that doesnt fix it....what should i do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanTurbinca Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 just realised that i dont have an esp for it even if the mod is activated....enb helper i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanTurbinca Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 well setting rule NAT before/after ELFX didnt do anything i still get it...and now more than ever....but still if i restart game i manage, or it manages to go over it and game light is ok....not swithching from one to another...dunno what to do here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanTurbinca Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 Disabled NAT, Wonders of Weather, ELFX, and any patch/fix related to them, also any mod with the name ENB in it, also in game disabled enb - NOTHING....now its doing it all the time...anywhere after every restart.....bethesda SUCKS !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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