mechatech Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I downloaded this mod http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/18833/ Better Posture. When I installed it, it worked. I then went back to the vanilla idle, then back to the new idle, then back to vanilla restarting the game each time to load the idle in question. That was yesterday. Today I try the new idle again after some tweaking and the game uses the vanilla idle. I tried the original idle I downloaded and still the vanilla idle. I use Archive invalidated and other mods do work. My PC is shut down each evening. I had the problem before in a previous install. The new idle works for one day only and never again no matter what I do. One other thing is that my game crashes each time I exit via the menu or console "qqq". Can anyone shed some light on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Crash on exit is a common problem with some mods. If you use the Fallout Stutter Remover, navigate to Fallout 3\Data\FOSE\Plugins\sr_Fallout_Stutter_Remover.ini and open it.Under "Master = {" look for the line "bFastExit =0" and change the "0" to "1", exit and save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechatech Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Tried that setting just now. Still crashes on exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It might be a good idea to post your equipment specs, FO3 installation path and load order. If the fast exit does not fix the crash on exit, you have another conflict or problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechatech Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Now I've got another problem this time with Oblivion posted here I don't know if the two are related. When I start a new game, the new idle works. It's as if there is something in the save data that is stopping it. PC specsCore i7 2.67G on a Asus P6T6gb DDR3Sapphire HD4870 TOXIC x 2 Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmSharing and Caring Companions.esmFortFreeway.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmAWorldOfPainFO3.esmDetect Traps.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmHairday.esmAdvanced Recon Tech.esmCALIBR.esmCompanion Core.esmRobCo Certified v2.esmAll Your Bananas.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espBetterGamePerformance.espDetect Traps - Perk.espAQFH2.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espDestructible Ordnance.espMinuteMinder.espArlingtonDefenses.espCompanion Core DLC Addon.espRobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.espTrentonTowers.espWater_Tower_Hideout_byOrophin.espRobco utility room shelter.espAutoGates.espNColorDCInteriors.espShadows and Dust - Southwest DC - Public.espShadows and Dust - Volume 2.espFallin3 SouthEast Wasteland.espTunnelOutpost.espBeefedUpCitadel.espFastTravelIndoors.espBillboard Camps.espThe Den A Rivet City Player Home.espExpanded Megaton House V3.espMegaton Walkway.espMegaton Outskirts.espTakoma Bank.espNewMall.espNewoffice.espThe Yard V1.6 - The Lab.espRock-Out.espRock-Out - DLC Support.espPaper-Shredder.espPaper-Shredder - DLC Support.espThe Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.espThe Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.espThe Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.espNewSuperMutantOverlords.espS.T.A.L.K.E.R. Mutants[addon for MMM].espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espKillableKidsNoExtras.espmutantradio.espAlternate Start - Roleplayers.espFireLightFix.espRivet City Realignment.espCASM.espTalonExtraArmor.espOverhead3PCamera.esppitt raider armor fix.espPortable Turrets.espPortable Camp.espPortableCamp2.espGreenerworld.espI'll Touch What I Want.espLightweightFoodSanitizer.espNoWeapArmorDegrade.espNPCs Sleep Tighter.espStealth Kills Enabled.espSuicideBomberWithScope.espBoSPatrols.espVatsLongerDistance.espThe Pitt Crash Fix.espFPS Grenade Hotkey.espFleshBurningPlasma.espAuto Aim Fix v1.0.espBetter Looking Combat Shotgun.espBurnification.espLot's of Blood And Gore - Above File's.espRemote Bottlecap Mines.esp1PipboyPDA.espCombatEnhanced-Package v02.espFasterMorePowerfulMines.espFeminizedPowerArmor.espDLC03_FemaleHellfire.espVault-Tec Experimental Dimensional Safe.espVault87EntryFix.espPointLookoutNoTravelTime.espFood_Weight_Fix.esp1alexscorpionsnipergear.espvault92 fix.espExistence2.0.espAdvanced Recon Gear.espAdvanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.espARTNightVision-No AP drain.espBurn Barrel removal LightsOut.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espRealistic Interior Lighting - PL.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Full Summer.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espHZSmoothLight - FO3.espEnhanced Weather - REBOOT.espDetect Traps - DLC.espAQFH_D_103.espThe Groovatron.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espDLC Enemies Freedom.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espAsharasFormalClothing.espAsuka Armor FO3.espTotal active plugins: 142Total plugins: 161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 You seem to be missing the Project Beauty.esm. I'm suprised your game will even run without this master. Also, you have too many mods to be running without a merged patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechatech Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Those two Project Beauty plugins only need Hairday to run. I can't make a merged patch because I simply can never get wrye bash to work for me. Now here's the punch line. I just started the game and the new idle was used. :blink: :wallbash: :wacko: I'll never figure this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 For a merged patch, use FO3Edit http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/637 and the training manual http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/8629 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechatech Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 My Oblivion is borked so it's gone. The two Project Beauty esps I think used the Project Beauty esm originally. I tweaked them to use Hairday because they each had one character that I wanted to customize and I liked what Hairday did. I'm trying the merged patch now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRampage Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espI might be missing something here, but I've never before seen a "Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp". Are you sure you're using the latest version of this mod? If I am correct you should have a "Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch" master file (.esm) in your load order instead.It may also be wise to put the DLC patches right below your master files instead. You also seem to be missing a compatibility patch for MMM and Project Beauty. (a merged patch will not resolve the conflicts between those 2) When I start a new game, the new idle works. It's as if there is something in the save data that is stopping it.Blow up your own player character or let it be killed somehow and allow the game to reload, then check to see if that resolves it. Edited March 25, 2013 by BlackRampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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