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I did mention that I saw Sparks on TV 1974 and as we bought our first color TV 1973, I saw all shows that got sent but I never saw this as it got never sent anywhere, ever but the recording got saved in some basement somewhere in Germany, as what did I prefer to listen to 1974 and still likes a lot:

 

They where so extremely brilliant and was forgotten 1978 as then they made lousy crap. The singer died when drinking himself to death and the drummer died 10 years later. The guitarist still tours with The Sweet and he have done so for last 50 years.

 

1976 came something else out that blew our minds out:

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1980, a new world did open for me, I went to the record store - I want something new and if it is odd, the better - I need a music challenge and I did find this group that has been my favorite since, for 41 years - I have also seen them live 3 times. They did retire 2017 after making 20 records, all unique and different, pushing their style forward.

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I need some energy. Alex Lifesson that started to play with the baseplayer from SAGA around 1970, always wins the gold position in the Gibson Magazin and no wonder really... He is unique

This song is unique and so good and it gives me energy for sure.

 

He also have a very dry humor, which we see in the end of this song where he start to make odd noises. :D

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Steve Vai - With a broken shoulder and a surged left hand and he still will be able to produce such a nice tune

 

I am planning to do a instruction video for SunlitEarth, showing her how to use the left hand on a guitar neck most proper but also for a bloody show off of course, as you know: I do like to that :D

I might make it and upload it to youtube soon but I need to start training with it first as I have not played for 2 years now. I did take a long break after I lost my job so I skipped practicing music ever since so Lets see what I can do or if I do it at all... :wink: It might sound terrible, false, out of sync... Well the piece I am planning to record is out of normal sync as you cannot clap hands to it and it will have the phase of a lullaby. It is something I did learn the base of while practising classical music 1982 and I will use a classic spanish guitar from 1972 playing it, with nylon strings, a form of training for the ears but also for the mind and body, I developed it, filled it with fills and other nasty stuff... So I do hope it will become suitable for modding really as that Steve Vai tune above is NOT suitable to listen to while modding as it is just cool and so damn good. He is the master - Well except Alex Lifesson in RUSH.

 

He missed to mention that Alex did play with the bass player from SAGA in the end of the 60's. SAGA and RUSH is from the same town and neighborhood and knew each others well. Geddy Lee used his bass equipment before he where able to get his own.

 

The guy in that video is not using his left hand in a proper angle, more like 45 degrees, because he has his guitar to low as it must be higher up, closer to the ceiling, to feel confortable and don't give the player ache. Look at Steve Vai's hand. It has a lower angle from the arm and his guitar is higher up. Metal players do like that as they think it looks lame to have the guitar up above your stomach, or your breast as I do not care. You must hold your instrument so you will be able to get the most speed with as low effort as possible, to be able to play as long time as possible and also to make it sound just right -> Set loose your Endorphins

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I want to add: My problem right now is the condition of my left hand as it get tired fast as I do press to hard on the guitar neck, which makes it aches and also sound sloppy and very bad. I will start slowly to train it again. Play 10 min and then take a break, until I can play an hour in a row or something like that without sloppyness. First then I will be ready to try play that lullaby I did mention. If it goes well, then I will also try to include background music and see if I will be able to to get the sound level between the background music and my classic guitar to be equal and I will then try to record 2 RUSH tunes and also an uknown Sweet song as I do love Andy Scott from the Sweet a lot as he is the unknown guitar hero. He was famous 1975. The Sweet managed to get 2 number 1 at the boards and charts around 1973-75, with Wig Wag Bang, Ballroom Blitz, Action and Fox on the Run but their last album from 1978 was terrible and every fan left Sweet 1976 already. Well lets listen one of the Rush songs and also to the Sweet tune I did had in my mind. That Rush song, I learned to play 35 years ago already so I should be able to do it really in a couple of weeks. If I cannot make it sound right, I will not make any own recordings for sure. I will focus at the bass as that is what I do best

 

Rush: Natural Science from 1979

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7W0Nm8iHwk

 

The Sweet - Hard Times from 1977

 

I still listen to the Sweet daily and mostly their 2 albums Funny Adams (1974) and Give us a Wink (1976 Do listen to track 2 as it is among their coolest songs). 2 perfect albums that inspires me a lot when I mod Oblivion. We are only able to make good stuff and come with new ideas when our bodies has a higher level of endorphins and those 2 albums helps some for sure. I do think the Cockroach has inspired Alice in Chain some as well. Jerry Cantrell have never mentioned Andy Scott in any interview that I have seen as he mention the English 70's rock scene as one single word. He is a close friend of Eddie Van Halen though :D I listen to Jerry Cantrell often, both when he plays with Alice in Chains and also his solo stuff as it is extremely inspiring. A pure genious if you ask me. Paganini, throw your self into the wall !!!!!! :wink:

 

Paganini shows off at a bloody tavern... Damn - This is nuts... *Bursts into tears and exit stage left* :unsure: :devil:

 

My new slogan should be: -More endorphins for the mod community.

 

Sloppyness? My classic nylon stringed guitar is a bit custom. The strings are lowered and closer to the neck than normal, to close to sound terrible if any form of force is used and I need to train a lot to be able to stop doing that. The strings are medium size, which makes me play much faster then I normally can and much faster then I will ever be able to do when I play bass. Is it cheating? In a way it is really as it is easy to make illusions with it, no doubt. Call me a cheater if you want - I can take it I guess :D

 

I do hope that you all found some new stuff here, that will aid you in your creations and I bet not many of you knew anything about The Sweet? I do not recall if I ever did mention them earlier but maybe I did? I have not checked lately... Paganini was the rockstar of his century and caused a lot of turbulence and faints. I almost fainted myself listen to the Tavern show off ... :wink: He is the biggest inspiration source for Yngwie Malmsteen I guess, the Swedish guitar virtuous with a bad attitude. In his first Swedish interview he did after releasing his first album, 1984, The rizing force, he did not even talk pure Swedish, so something is not right for sure. He can talk Swedish perfect, no doubt. The mind is a very odd and mysterious thing. :/

 

If it all goes well - I will try to do the Clockwork Angels and start with the Caravan. I can play some tunes from that record I guess... :wink: That song is hated by so many, but I really like it a lot now after I learned how to play it. It will require the right pressure and strong hands for sure and nothing I will try for a long time. I am not Geddy Lee and to play all his stuff 100% perfect is not possible so I will need to cheat to be able to do it at all or even get close. If this goes well, I will try YYZ as well, a song I do have lots of problems to play still and I have tried now for 40 years and still cannot do it good nor near perfect, so shoot me when I do it - In the foot though... I will try... The hardest part is a solo duel between Geddy and Neil and I fail it completely and I will be quiet when they play it or fake something. :/ When I played it the last time, I got ache in my hands fast, even if I did had full strength and was full trained so it is always painful to do it. Damn...

 

Pekka! - Take a break and take the bloody dogs out now and stop imagine stuff or dream. -You cannot do it... Just face it.

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Darn... I did see something scary yesterday, something that really caught me and made me think... Can this be possible? After I watched that sequence where Paganini show of at the Tavern I saw this and when he described how Paganini looked like, the lightning did strike me. Long, thin, pale with long fingers: Well I took a look in the mirror, damn. He looked a bit like me. One thing differs a lot though and it is how he was able to move as I cannot move like he did :wink:

You cannot mod and look at this at the same time I guess, as it is not a modding video but it will show how this specific modder looks like except I have very short hair but I did had long hair until around 1982, even if it got modern with short 1977 already, but as a KISS and Sweet fan, I did not give a damn really as I did not want to loose the hair. Those that kept the long hair where few, mostly hard rock musicians. Well lets peek at this 5 min documentary of Paganini and we might get some inspiration of making a scary mod, adding Liches, skeletons and Demons as that is what I wanna do when I saw this yesterday...



I did not knew he really used that devil stuff on stage, the shadows, in the reality as I thought they just added that part to the movie, to show the similarity. Damn... :unsure:

I did tried long hair again 1990 when I did play in a boring Europe like band that went into boring Oasis music. I did never get any Endorphin kicks playing with them but we did had fun playing covers as we did play Disco and funk and seeing the audiences dance, well that was enough for me really. I should had left them or never joined them. They never gave me much inspiration at all. 2 of them play Country today, they did sell their souls to the devil. The drummer was a lazy drumming machine and I had to set up his drums, doing a lot of dirty work but when he started to play, he did sound like he came from Africa. -So annoying really. :dance:

I tried to form a RUSH cover band around 1995. The drummer was good, the guitarist was not into it, but I did teach him a lot of stuff he might had use for I hope. We did Tom Sawyer, YYZ and Circumstances and also a composition I made 1987 that is a bit complicated, that I might repeat one day, a form of show of the hands... We did try one more guitarist that I did knew very well and I lend him my yellow Charvel I bought for €200 but I never got it back... I was so stupid as I knew he was not to trust.

The actor we saw playing Paganini, is among the worlds best vilonists, maybe even the best there is today. He is very handsome, plays like a god, no doubt - got accused of some odd behavior though, exactly like Paganini and the body is more muscular but not many are able to do it like he did. His name is David Garret.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2401715/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1



Seeing him playing, give me wet eyes and not many are able to do that. I never cry easy really but I am close right now and was very close when I saw the Tavern video. :ohdear: :facepalm: Edited by Pellape
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Audacity is a useful tool for recording and I do think it has a multitrack recording ability and I might do something with La Villa Strangiato one day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGFwp05Ais

 

Click the link above as they refuse to let us see it it seems. I also add this version below:

 

I will do this when I got more confident, both with recording and see how I will be able to combine the sound from several sources when I make the video, combining Audacity, Youtube and the mic. Links would be helpfull about how to do it if you have any to provide.

 

I will start the recording right before the solo parts or maybe even do the whole bloody song. It will be my version of it as I am not Geddy, Alex nor Neil so how will I play it?

  1. Rytmics on my laps, the drumming will be my bare hands directly to my laps, using thick socks for the bass drumming, adding a mic down there somewhere.
  2. Play or fake the bass play with the Classic guitar, combine chords with 1 string bass play
  3. Try to fake Alex solo parts as much as possible with nylon and long nails. That will most likely become the hardest part. This part is the one I will try to catch on the video. If I fail, well then I do it playback but I do hope that will not be needed. I must find a way to add the tracks from Audacity into the video together with the mic, for free really. There must be free software that will be able to do this easy, or what ye think?

I will try to do it from my memory and that will in one way become harder. Will I be able to keep a constant rhythm, is that needed? Will I miss something else? Does it matter really? That song is extremely demanding, so missing a tapping here or there will become possible. This will also reflect on the solo part, as I do not remember exactly what Alex is doing so I will fake it as much as possible, making it into an illusion and trick you.

 

No matter the how I do it, I do hope you will like the result. What source I will use, well not the one where Alex sings as I do like it and it is funny at the video above, typical Rush humor as they are extremely nerdy really. Alex is a bloody clown.

 

One hard part will also be to keep the tempo - but it will not be important really, as I do have my own speed and might slow it down a little bit. It will sound right no matter what I guess but we all have our own phases and speeds wen we do stuff, do we not? I rather try to make it sound right then speeding away as just compare KISS - Detroit Rock City live with the Destroyer version, they speed up their songs to much live as it often sound terrible. Ace do not play the solos at Destroyer at all according to his book as it is the producer that is doing it and it is the same one that made the final version. They did show him the initiating part of Detroit Rock city and he made the Verse - Talk about faking stuff, it is still the coolest and hardest song made 1977.

 

-If you want the best, you got the best - KISS!!!!

 

The word Kiss means pee in Swedish by the way.... :/ So damn misunderstood, specially from the Elders here between 1970-90 Pekka is not pica pica, nor Dick as it is a Finnish real name.

 

I wish I could play Evil Eye, some doubt I can do it, old friends - I will try it at home... Fake as much as possible. How hard can it be honestly? Well ask my old friend Bengt-Åke Tenghult and he will say: Pekka cannot do it and he went angry with me when I did mentioned it. We did learn to play drums together 1977 and he is damn good. Here he plays at Sticky Fingers in Gothenburg, an old VHS tape. The uploader, Peter Bärnsten might know how to Reach Bengt-Åke but they have a new drummer now he wrote at the comments. I spoke to him 10 years ago at the Mölndals Party we have once a year in the end of Mars and we came into dispute about music and he gave me many angry eyes. I begged him 1982 or 1984 to play YYZ with me but I couldn't manage to do it right on a black Rickenbacker bass so do some mistakes and you will get ignored. It is the same for those that played with Zappa. Make a single mistake and you get your but kicked in or thrown out.

 

-You cannot tap or slap the YYZ verse he told me as you must play every note - Learn it and we see but the way you play it now, no way. Come back later. He did burn my tent down as well the last night I slept at that old house they used for training. It did reminded me a lot of the house in: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077975/?ref_=nm_knf_i2 - He did laugh at me when I found the tent in ashes the morning after 1983 and the only stuff that remained was the sticks. He could be very nasty and cruel. Do ask him about it, if you can find him that is. It can also be so that someone else did it - no matter - He really thought it was amusing.

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I did mentioned funk and Disco. There is a couple of bands and songs I really love a lot as everything is not about speed, Paganini, show off but face it, all bloody musicians have a need more or less to show off so count me in there. Honestly, all want to show off, more or less :D

 

A band that went forgotten, that inspired us some to play funk and Disco around 1990 was the Swedish Band Stonefunker's and Emric, the singer lives in Kungälv and I do know his wife and gave her a lot of Technical support when I was working with Computers and IT-Support. Emric worked at Mimers House, our High School in Kungälv (Gymnasium) but I never met him there. I have seen them live 2 times and when they play, I do go in to a trance like state and I do forget everything else. I hope it will inspire yo to make or create something new today for our few Oblivion players :D

 

Another forgotten musician or band that gave us inspiration to try to combine rock and Funk 1990 was Dan Reed Network.

 

Wow. They are so damn great. So we, a couple of plastic rockers where looking for a bass player that where able to do it. The one that joined us did not like Rock really but he was open minded and wanted to try it.

 

He slapped as fast as Paganini. I often played drums with him but it was also very hard as I could not keep that tempo, so I slacked a lot and he screamed: Pekka. Tempo, faster, faster tempo and he gave me angy eyes. Damn, so frustrating :D I do slack if I get nervous or loose focus... Who does not honestly? -Stop slack or leave the drums, he said. I do not need drums to train really, he claimed. :wink: That did not bother me much as I refused to leave the bloody drums and kept trying. :wink:

 

I was playing Keyboard in that band and I had a lot of Roland equipment. I do think it was him that by mistake sent 48V from our US mixer to my Roland S-50 and blew the motherboard out. He denies it but I had to buy a new for €400 and that felt so damn wrong. I was so bloody pissed. I could have bought a new one really.... :/

 

When we bought that mixer, it did sound terrible as it was a 19 inch 24 channel with US xlr wiring. I did recall I was in Stockholm, the Freeze House 2 days around 1987, a cource in Mixing, singing and studio with my band from Mölndal and we where tought about the difference in XLR in Europe and US so me and our Guitarist, that plays Country today, Mircad Balic, called Mirre had to re sold every damn contact and when we where done, it did sound great. We used Canton and Proton speakers, a 13 track VCR like recorder. Atari Computers.

 

I did Theater with that band as well, the previous band from Mölndal 1987 that is, and we did some own performances around 1989, together with the Young Eagles in Hammarkullen, inspired by the Swedish National Theater assemble. Here performing a song against drugs as that was what we did, performing against drugs and also try to figure out different states of status between humans. We did a lot of training, trying to argument, testing different kinds of states. It could get extremely hostile at times. A majority in the band, had politicians as parents, my mother and the father of The guitarist and drummer so we could get hostile outside the training sessions as well. :D A lot of waste of time and energy really when that did happen :wink:

 

My last recording I did with the singer, Daniel Boscovic, was the Beatle song I am the walruss, performed here by one of Gothenburg's greatest singer ever RIP and the Flesh Quartet. Freddie Wadling

 

I did all the instruments my self in that recording and Daniel had never heard it, which did surprise me but he did sat it after listened to it it 3-5 times. I did my version entirely on a Atari Falcon, 32-bit computer that I borrowed from the General Atari small company in Gothenburg. It was meant I was gonna sell it for them, for musicians but I am not a sales person so I failed that part completely. That recording is lost forever I fear as I did manage to make a copy to tape, but finding it will be harder than finding my lost Oblivion Painting Exchanger. Hmmm... What about if I am making an acoustic version one day and upload it? I have to think about it really...

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