New to moding, Fall Out won't load...

[BlackstarAlchemist]

I realize that Fall Out is now outdated and not too many people are doing stuff with this but every video I show tells me to go with FOMM. With this new Nexxus can't I eliminate FOMM? I have also followed all the instructions into loading this and I think I have the load order correct but I can't tell cause on start up it crashes. Should I just start by eliminating all mods and setting them up one by one? also it seems that some mods are now one unit instead of the old set up is this just me or am I not finding the correct mods? I feel like I have a million CALIBR and CRAFT mods when it looks like there should only be a few...

[BlackstarAlchemist]

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[BlackstarAlchemist]

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any tips on what i need or don't need would be very helpful thank you.

[prensa]

BlackstarAlchemist - Hello!

By the way, your mod manager should have a "Load Order" tab within which will be a "Copy to clipboard". With that you can copy & paste your load order without using screen grabs. I use FOMM but NMM should have a simillar feature.

Modded Fallout 3 crashing on startup is almost always due to a missing master, in other words a plugin is missing another that it needs to work.

If you open your mod manager you can left click on each mod & a list of their masters will be displayed at the bottom. You MUST have those masters in your load order for that plugin to work.

A common mistake is to use a patch intended for a mod that you do not have in your load order.

I see you have:

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp

Which are patches for MMM to work with FOOK but you don't have FOOK so that will cause a crash on startup.

Untick & delete those two.

You've also got a few MMM plugins that you don't need:

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Those are all built into the Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp which you have so they can be unticked & deleted.

I don't use CRAFT but several of those plugins you have look like they should be one or the other,
those lead pipe no assault rifle ones. You should check the readmes for more info on them.

If you still no joy with the startup crash, turn off your mods one at a time checking between each to see when the game stops crashing on startup. That way you can find the culprit & check it's documentation for it's requirements.

"With this new Nexxus can't I eliminate FOMM?"

You can use either FOMM or the new Nexus Mod Manager (NMM) depending on which you prefer.

While you don't need to use either mod manager, they do make life a little easier with mods.

Just don't use both together.

Hope this helps!

Prensa

 

PS: StreetLights.esm should go above BrokenSteel.esm.

Edited June 5, 2013 by prensa

[BlackstarAlchemist]

Awesome, thank you. I have been combing through this for a full day now and I just read that FOOK wasn't compatible with Wanderers Edition. also I wasn't sure on the CRAFT stuff, to be honest I have always been a fan of Fall Out and I bought all of this for the xbox and just recently because of Steam sales I bought all of the Fall Outs on PC. So if you have any suggestions of good MODs I am all ears.

[BlackstarAlchemist]

So I deleted and added some things and it is still crashing. here is my new load out.

 

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

StreetLights.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

CALIBR Level Lists.esm

CRAFTHelper.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

EVE.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Project Beauty HD version [Hair Fix].esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

CRAFT - Clutter Conversions.esp

CRAFT - Workbench Replacement.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

CRAFTable_WMKs_skill_requirements_lead_pipe_no_assault_rifle_and_laser_pistol_.esp

CRAFTable_WMKs.esp

CRAFTable_WMKs_no_assault_rifle_and_laser_pistol.esp

CRAFTable_WMKs_lead_pipe.esp

CRAFTable_WMKs_skill_req_Amodeus.esp

Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp

CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp

CALIBR Compatibility Project.esp

CALIBR Compatibility Project - Vashts.esp

EVE.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp

EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

CRAFTHelper_ReplaceWorkbenchScript.esp

CRAFTHelper_ReplaceWorkbenchScriptFWE.esp

CRAFTHelper_Vanilla.esp

CRAFTHelper_TinCan.esp

CRAFTHelper_EA.esp

CRAFTHelper_WCE.esp

CRAFTHelper_FWE.esp

CRAFTHelper_FWEAlternateTravel.esp

CRAFTHelper_WMK.esp

CRAFTHelper_SBReconArmor.esp

CRAFTHelper_AS.esp

Total active plugins: 82

Total plugins: 91

 

[M48A5]

Have you ever had the game start and run? That is the first thing to do. Make sure the game will run without mods. It makes it much easier to troubleshoot this way.

You should follow the advice given here: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you/

Also, what are your equipment specifications?

For restore tracers, use only one of them, not both. Have the .esp load in the same order as the .esm.

[prensa]

BlackstarAlchemist - Hello!

Your crashing on startup is probably due to one of those many patches you have, you've got a lot of CRAFT & CALIBR plugins there, I had to look up what they did. :)

A quick check shows you've got:

CRAFTHelper_WCE.esp

If you left click on that in your mod Manager you will see a list of it's masters show up at the bottom.

It's masters are:

Fallout3.esm
CRAFT.esm
CRAFTHelper.esm
CRAFT - Workbench and Crafting Expansion combined.esp

You've not got CRAFT - Workbench and Crafting Expansion combined.esp so that will cause a crash on startup.

Untick & delete CRAFTHelper_WCE.esp.

If you still can't run Fallout, there's probably another patch in yor load order that's not meant to be there like the one I mentioned. Check the plugin's masers in your mod manager as I showed to help figure out which one.

By the way, Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp is built into Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp so you don't need it.

So untick & delete Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp.

M48A5's correct, you need one or the other of these:

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

Or

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

"So if you have any suggestions of good MODs I am all ears."

You've got many of my must have mods like DCInteriors & MMM, those two are great & I wouldn't be without them. :)

Hope this helps!

Prensa

Edited April 18, 2013 by prensa

[BlackstarAlchemist]

This is a steam version am I not supposed to be using FOSE cause when I read the readme file it says it is not compatible... but i have been following the tutorials so I am a little confused

[SoulReaver911]

Fose is compatible with the steam version. It doesn't alter any game files so try and install it then give it a go, and you'll see that it works. (Remember to launch Fose_loaded.exe instead of Fallout3.exe to use fose.)