Zairen Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Hi there Nexus! :D First off, thank you for taking the time to read this. and i apologize if a similar post has been brought up before.Here's my problem; as the title states, random clutter have been appearing all over skyrim. I don't mean just Pots and Pans, but "Helmets, Blades, Pretty much anything to suit your needs" lol .At first i didn't mind, but i realize that if more and More and MORE of this stuff appear, its gonna cause Bloating in my save game! Eg: If i'm in Riften, i see random Rifen Guard Armor(s) and helmet(s) on the ground. etc etc.it doesn't cause any CTD as far as i know, but i'm just afraid of the Bloating, and its clearly not suppose to happen. Thanks again guys & gals!PS; FUS DOH RAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Can you copy/past the text file for you BOSS log (Enclose in spoiler tags if it is long)Also: any mods that you have recently removed, or mods that you have that aren't reflected in the BOSS log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zairen Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Testing Spoiler tag These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveApachiiHairFemales.esm Active3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveDeus Mons.esm ActiveJSwords.esm ActiveOmegared99-Compilation.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveFixedEyeAdaption.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveDFG's Blade & Dagger Sheathe Sounds_Dawnguard.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveSoundPropagationOverhaul.esp ActiveFurther Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern.esp ActiveDual Sheath Redux.esp ActiveRequires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+Immersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActivePoint The Way.esp ActiveSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag.Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp ActiveSwiftPotion.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveCharacter Creation Overhaul.esp ActiveDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp ActiveNote: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.RaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.WetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveAlynShirArmor.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.esp ActiveBlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp ActiveBloodWitchArmor.esp Activecalyps-razorarmor.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp ActiveDaggerCraft.esp ActiveDemonHunterArmor.esp ActiveNote: Be sure you have the correct version for the body type installed: DIMONIZED UNP female body or CBBE female body.DragonbornArmorFix.esp ActiveDragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp ActiveDread Knight Weapon Set.esp ActiveDreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp ActiveEvil MasterMind Armor.esp ActiveFlameAtronachArmor.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.FullBootForKKSA.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp ActiveKnight Of Thorns Armor.esp ActiveLostLongSwords.esp ActiveLustmordVampireArmor.esp ActiveNicoroshi Creations.esp ActiveOmegared99-WeaponSets.esp ActivePrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Incompatible with: SkyRe_Main.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Roman armor and weapons.esp ActiveRoman armor and weapons replacer.esp ActiveSeraphineHuntedArmor.esp ActiveNote: Be sure you have the correct body mod for the esp. DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE.Thanatos Dragonx.esp ActiveTribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp Active3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}zz_GD_DB_RAHoods.esp ActiveDr_Bandolier.esp ActiveASIS-Encounter Zones.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp ActiveLock Overhaul.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}ERSO 03 - Slighty Mighty Dragons Unleveled DD.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 03 file.ERSO 03.3 - Slighty Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 03.3 file.ERSO 03.4 - Slighty Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 03.4 file.DeadlyMonsters.esp ActiveERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Loots.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp ActiveERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp ActiveERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp ActiveERSO 07 - Mighty Dragon Priests.esp ActiveERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 09 file.SkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read ithere.Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_Combat.esp ActiveSkyRe_CraftingFix.esp ActiveSkyRe_EncounterZones.esp ActiveSkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SkyRe_StandingStones.esp ActiveSkyRe_Survivalism.esp ActiveDeus Mons_WithNPCs.esp ActiveImmersive Events.esp ActivePumpingIron.esp ActiveRayeksEnd.esp Active360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp ActiveBabette.esp ActiveCCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp ActiveCCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp ActiveDistant DetailHF.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Proper Aiming.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveEnhancedLightsandFX.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.Better Vampires ML.esp ActivePredator Vision.esp ActiveWerewolfMastery.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveMidasSkyrim.esp ActiveHitStop.esp ActiveBFSEffects.esp ActiveFNISspells.esp ActiveDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.espDragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp ActiveLocational Damage.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActiveCCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp ActiveABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp ActiveABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp ActiveMorePP.esp ActiveGDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp ActiveAcquisitive Soul Gems.esp ActiveStavesofSkyrim.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveRND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveHothFollower.esp ActiveAmanda.esp ActiveCompanionValfar.esp ActiveMisha.esp ActiveCerwidenCompanion.esp ActiveEMCompViljaSkyrim.esp ActiveEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp ActiveAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp ActiveSkyRe_Races.esp ActivePurewaters.esp ActivePurewatersDG.esp ActivePurewatersDB.esp ActiveRND_PureWaters-Patch.esp ActiveAutomatic Variants.esp ActiveASIS-Dependency.esp ActiveASIS.esp ActiveWarning: Unmark Automatic Perks and Automatic Spells flags in ASIS patch options. Or you will have bugs and CTDs in game when using SkyRe and ASIS.SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp ActiveNote: Deactivate 'SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp' before creation of ASIS patch and activate only after creation of ASIS patch.Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp ActiveReProccer.esp ActiveReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp ActiveWTF.esp ActiveNote: May need TES5Edit cleaning. Several test generations of this SkyProc Patch included ITMs. A cleaning guide is available here UPDATE: Boo ya! spoiler tag works! lol. The once on top are the Recognised Plugins. Below is the Unrecognised Plugins. Comp-NozDorMu.esp ActiveSkyRe_LostLongSwords.esp ActiveFaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp ActiveTKRecoil.esp ActiveReProccerDragonborn.esp ActiveNordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp ActiveBHWarPaints.esp ActiveBreezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp ActiveDeadlyMutilation.esp ActiveSkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp ActiveUpgraded Weapons and Armors.esp ActiveForgottenMagic_Redone.esp ActiveStavesofSkyrim_NoPerk.esp ActiveStavesofSkyrim_SkyReCompatibility.esp ActiveDF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp ActiveAesirArmor.esp ActiveLessIntrusiveHUD.esp ActiveSkyrim Tycoon - Reloaded.esp Active I started from a new character. and the the only new mods i started using are Duel Sheath Redux (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/34155) and RND {http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26228). Thanks again! Edited April 25, 2013 by Zairen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Your last line confuses me. Are you crashing on a new character using RND and Dual Sheath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 There is a known issue where killed enemies drop weapons and shields on death. These items become disconnected from the actor when the body is cleaned up. The USKP patches are supposed to solve this problem. However, in my own game without the USKP the items would be found in mid air at the point that they had been released from the actor. With the USKP the same items would be found but lying on the ground. The only true solution is to strip every dead actor of items before they are cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zairen Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Your last line confuses me. Are you crashing on a new character using RND and Dual Sheath?Sorry if i wasn't clear. What i meant is, RND and Duel Sheath are the two new mods i installed when i decided to start a new character. And i'm not getting CTD, i'm just worried that these random weapons appearing will eventually lead to a bloating in my Save. Hence i wanna solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zairen Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 There is a known issue where killed enemies drop weapons and shields on death. These items become disconnected from the actor when the body is cleaned up. The USKP patches are supposed to solve this problem. However, in my own game without the USKP the items would be found in mid air at the point that they had been released from the actor. With the USKP the same items would be found but lying on the ground. The only true solution is to strip every dead actor of items before they are cleaned up.Hi Ishara, Thanks for posting. And i know about USKP and the possessive corpse fix. The issue however, is not that dead NPC are leaving behind items, they are just randomly appearing. One corner i'll find a Banded Iron Shield, and the next corner a Iron Helm and then maybe an iron boots. And i believe these aren't intended to be loot in the first place. I try my best a pick them up and place them in a dead body when i ever find them. I'll try to get a pix the next time it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well, I think Ishara's point is a good one.There is a known bug of stuff being left behind--the corpse will disappear after a bit, but the items can remain, sometimes in the air, sometimes of the ground.Especially if you have increased your ugrids, there may have been a battle between NPCs out of your line of sight, resulting in an NPC dropping their items and then disappearing before you arrived at the spot.What I was considering was your statement that the problem was increasing-- that seems unusual and why I was thinking it might be mod related. If you try either Possessive Corpses or USKP and the problem continues, then I would suspect another mod was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zairen Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 hmmmmm.....you have a point. At this moment everything is still playable. Hopefully i won't have to start a new game because of bloating in the near future. Thank you Georgiegril and Ishara for your time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zairen Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) lol. I'm trying to upload a pic, but in vain. Give me a sec UPDATE: I've link the pic to a website here; http://s20.postimg.org/5i10h4sd5/Clutter.jpg This is what i mean, clutter! :( Edited April 26, 2013 by Zairen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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