Kraeten Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 People criticize lore-unfriendly mods if they're a fervent fan of Elder Scrolls. Fixed. :P To address the OP's question though, I think people criticize "weird mods" because they want to see more content that actually improves upon the core experience...instead of making it something else entirely. Personally I think we should discuss the trends of modding, but under no circumstances should we go to an individual's mod page and leave nasty comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Going back to the OP (I don't really want to read through all this debate although from what I've read both sides have valid arguments) I will agree with you on the fact that it is horrible that even among a community of gamers, the nerdiest of the nerds, we can still find examples of bullying. HOWEVER, you can't have a biased opinion on this subject, as a gamer that has seen one to many games modding communities go down the anime abyss of pervyness. Most modders will agree with me that it is happening with Skyrim as well, skimpy armors, weapon packs from anime series, etc. The Skyrim Nexus, imo, is a place to build on the Skyrim lore, not degrade it. Now keep in mind that I am not a Lore maniac. I do believe modding should stay in the bounds of the lore but I will never bash, insult, or deprecate another s work. I do believe, however, that there are other means of uploading their content to share with others, (Just Google the Asian modding community you'll see what I mean) its just not here on the Nexus. Again, this is a very thin line were walking on in this thread. People's opinions especially on the internet, are much more then opinions they're an extension of themselves. Just keep that in mind when you think about lore keepers and lore breakers. I read the Rules for Nexus when I first joined this Forum and I can not recall for the life of me anywhere stating Skyrim Nexus is for TES Lore Mods only.....must I read it again, has something changed? And so as my interest lay in 'realism' and 'challenge'....not TES Lore....such as including a "pervy" 'Sex' Mod for 'realism'....I should only be able to acquire such Mods on possibly unregulated sites written in a language I can't even understand?....Exposing my PC to the possibility of downloading a virus or maybe even something as perverted as say 'child sex in Skyrim' because I can't read another language that pertains to the content of the Mod?....All because I prefer realism in my game? As for Skimpy Armors...do some historic research on Nordic and other old European Cultures.....google 'Berserkers' ...you may be in for quite a surprise....Granted the vast majority of Skimpy Armors are done for Skyrim just for show...not that I particularly care....whatever floats someone boat is fine by me....if they like it they use it....But do keep in mind as you fob these Mods off as unrealistic, your own Dovahkin running around in full metal Armor is just as unrealistic, if not in some ways even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellophonist Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Going back to the OP (I don't really want to read through all this debate although from what I've read both sides have valid arguments) I will agree with you on the fact that it is horrible that even among a community of gamers, the nerdiest of the nerds, we can still find examples of bullying. HOWEVER, you can't have a biased opinion on this subject, as a gamer that has seen one to many games modding communities go down the anime abyss of pervyness. Most modders will agree with me that it is happening with Skyrim as well, skimpy armors, weapon packs from anime series, etc. The Skyrim Nexus, imo, is a place to build on the Skyrim lore, not degrade it. Now keep in mind that I am not a Lore maniac. I do believe modding should stay in the bounds of the lore but I will never bash, insult, or deprecate another s work. I do believe, however, that there are other means of uploading their content to share with others, (Just Google the Asian modding community you'll see what I mean) its just not here on the Nexus. Again, this is a very thin line were walking on in this thread. People's opinions especially on the internet, are much more then opinions they're an extension of themselves. Just keep that in mind when you think about lore keepers and lore breakers. I read the Rules for Nexus when I first joined this Forum and I can not recall for the life of me anywhere stating Skyrim Nexus is for TES Lore Mods only.....must I read it again, has something changed? And so as my interest lay in 'realism' and 'challenge'....not TES Lore....such as including a "pervy" 'Sex' Mod for 'realism'....I should only be able to acquire such Mods on possibly unregulated sites written in a language I can't even understand?....Exposing my PC to the possibility of downloading a virus or maybe even something as perverted as say 'child sex in Skyrim' because I can't read another language that pertains to the content of the Mod?....All because I prefer realism in my game? As for Skimpy Armors...do some historic research on Nordic and other old European Cultures.....google 'Berserkers' ...you may be in for quite a surprise....Granted the vast majority of Skimpy Armors are done for Skyrim just for show...not that I particularly care....whatever floats someone boat is fine by me....if they like it they use it....But do keep in mind as you fob these Mods off as unrealistic, your own Dovahkin running around in full metal Armor is just as unrealistic, if not in some ways even more so.First off I never stated Nexus was strictly a lore based site, if you were to have read my comment thoroughly you would seen I said that was strictly in my opinion. Secondly I never said realism had anything to do with my argument, I was arguing for the Elder scrolls lore, whether that be realistic to actual history and culture to actual Nordic societies in the time period is not what I am supporting, again its for the lore of the elder scrolls games and half dressed anime based mods is not part of that lore. Third, Whether or not you download mods from other sites is completely up to you, I never said anybody had to go to such sites, and hey, there's this thing called the steam community, I'm pretty sure your not going to get a virus there. So in conclusion, read someones comment completely and thoroughly before you start belligerently accusing them of things they never said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Going back to the OP (I don't really want to read through all this debate although from what I've read both sides have valid arguments) I will agree with you on the fact that it is horrible that even among a community of gamers, the nerdiest of the nerds, we can still find examples of bullying. HOWEVER, you can't have a biased opinion on this subject, as a gamer that has seen one to many games modding communities go down the anime abyss of pervyness. Most modders will agree with me that it is happening with Skyrim as well, skimpy armors, weapon packs from anime series, etc. The Skyrim Nexus, imo, is a place to build on the Skyrim lore, not degrade it. Now keep in mind that I am not a Lore maniac. I do believe modding should stay in the bounds of the lore but I will never bash, insult, or deprecate another s work. I do believe, however, that there are other means of uploading their content to share with others, (Just Google the Asian modding community you'll see what I mean) its just not here on the Nexus. Again, this is a very thin line were walking on in this thread. People's opinions especially on the internet, are much more then opinions they're an extension of themselves. Just keep that in mind when you think about lore keepers and lore breakers. I read the Rules for Nexus when I first joined this Forum and I can not recall for the life of me anywhere stating Skyrim Nexus is for TES Lore Mods only.....must I read it again, has something changed? And so as my interest lay in 'realism' and 'challenge'....not TES Lore....such as including a "pervy" 'Sex' Mod for 'realism'....I should only be able to acquire such Mods on possibly unregulated sites written in a language I can't even understand?....Exposing my PC to the possibility of downloading a virus or maybe even something as perverted as say 'child sex in Skyrim' because I can't read another language that pertains to the content of the Mod?....All because I prefer realism in my game? As for Skimpy Armors...do some historic research on Nordic and other old European Cultures.....google 'Berserkers' ...you may be in for quite a surprise....Granted the vast majority of Skimpy Armors are done for Skyrim just for show...not that I particularly care....whatever floats someone boat is fine by me....if they like it they use it....But do keep in mind as you fob these Mods off as unrealistic, your own Dovahkin running around in full metal Armor is just as unrealistic, if not in some ways even more so.First off I never stated Nexus was strictly a lore based site, if you were to have read my comment thoroughly you would seen I said that was strictly in my opinion. Secondly I never said realism had anything to do with my argument, I was arguing for the Elder scrolls lore, whether that be realistic to actual history and culture to actual Nordic societies in the time period is not what I am supporting, again its for the lore of the elder scrolls games and half dressed anime based mods is not part of that lore. Third, Whether or not you download mods from other sites is completely up to you, I never said anybody had to go to such sites, and hey, there's this thing called the steam community, I'm pretty sure your not going to get a virus there. So in conclusion, read someones comment completely and thoroughly before you start belligerently accusing them of things they never said. ...And what I was referring to was 'your opinion', pointing out the problems your suggestion if it were so would cause for people who prefer a broader range of Mods be available on a safe site.....As for the Steam site, no mature content allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkinsane Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 LOL! I am a HUGE Skyrim fan! I like the lore, and I try to install mods that don't mess with that too much.But I guess some poeple just don't get it. I mean - if you don't want your game ruined by a silly mod - then don't install it!! I've added plenty of Lore-Breaking stuff to my game - I mean my follower runs around with Cloud's Buster Sword from Final Fantasy VII!! It's not silly - It's an EPIC weapon! Working on getting the neccecary materials for Cloud's 2-Handed Apocalypse! I've also got Dante's Red Queen from Devil May Cry series! EPIC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakwind Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 The whole thing around the lore of the game is making choices, do I believe the empire to be right? Or the Stormcloaks? Or maybe even the Thalmor...some can go down that track. There is lore to support all 3..if you want to. It's my choice if I want to be an Imperial soldier or a Stormcloak or a messenger of death assassin or a greedy thief or a milk drinking Nord Companion or even a hot rod driving skimpy Wonder-Woman costume wearing hulk of an Orc with an umbrella for a weapon...it's my lore in my game and I thank the modder's that there are mods to fullfil any kind of fantasy, and prolong the games experience, more power to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkinsane Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) FreddyHollensen, on 04 May 2013 - 21:18, said:Man I'm getting so much cancer from this post... Aladdin must definitely be trolling or by the least be a twelve-fourteen year old kid... MLP, Spiderman and car mods for skyrim is just... yeah... Here's what, a mod creator who have taken his time to understand the space his creation will be a part of generally is also one who cares more to make a good mod, there's nothing wrong with a fun mod you can install once you've completed the game, but they aren't of much value if you're anything but a complete toon... Not all mods who aren't lore friendly needs be dismissed, but they do need to stay withing the artistic frame of Skyrim, or in other words, axes / shields, not M16's, ford mustangs and avenger ponies. Of course, if you have no taste or sense of real and serious gameplay, you can probably enjoy a few of those kind of mods, but you won't see me weep if we lose these mod creators from the nexusI think your the one who's trolling. Edited May 6, 2013 by Monkinsane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkinsane Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Going back to the OP (I don't really want to read through all this debate although from what I've read both sides have valid arguments) I will agree with you on the fact that it is horrible that even among a community of gamers, the nerdiest of the nerds, we can still find examples of bullying. HOWEVER, you can't have a biased opinion on this subject, as a gamer that has seen one to many games modding communities go down the anime abyss of pervyness. Most modders will agree with me that it is happening with Skyrim as well, skimpy armors, weapon packs from anime series, etc. The Skyrim Nexus, imo, is a place to build on the Skyrim lore, not degrade it. Now keep in mind that I am not a Lore maniac. I do believe modding should stay in the bounds of the lore but I will never bash, insult, or deprecate another s work. I do believe, however, that there are other means of uploading their content to share with others, (Just Google the Asian modding community you'll see what I mean) its just not here on the Nexus. Again, this is a very thin line were walking on in this thread. People's opinions especially on the internet, are much more then opinions they're an extension of themselves. Just keep that in mind when you think about lore keepers and lore breakers. So essentially, you support censorship on Nexus? What gives you the right. I happen to like the skimpy armors :p Is it lore friendly - Probably not :p But it is MY Skyrim Universe - not yours. I also see no reason Why I should go to 5 or six different sites becausse of an Eletist attitude of some Nexus members. Why the hell does it bother anyone what types of mods is on Nexus? If you don't like it - don't download it - SIMPLE AS THAT! Live and let live dammit! The modders spend months of their own time making these mods and upload it for us to enjoy - stoip being ungratefull asses and leave everyone to their own skyrim universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daventry Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Can you imagine a Modding Forum with Moderator and Administrator Lore Extremists who Ban Modders for putting a Fairy in their Favorite Lore Discussion Game when such a thing doesent fit. :teehee: Do you know how Empty this Forum would be if Lore Extremist Members tell Moderators to Ban the guy because he puts Pokemon in his Game. I want one. :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkinsane Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Can you imagine a Modding Forum with Moderator and Administrator Lore Extremists who Ban Modders for putting a Fairy in their Favorite Lore Discussion Game when such a thing doesent fit. :teehee: Do you know how Empty this Forum would be if Lore Extremist Members tell Moderators to Ban the guy because he puts Pokemon in his Game. I want one. :woot: It would be a sad day for Skyrim fans everywhere. But it is typical - there are always a few ah#les trying to ruin everybody elses fun - when they're the ones with the cucumber stuck up their a$$e$ :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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