CTD when taking first imperial armor

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The very first set of Imperial guards in Helgen keep get killed by me and then it CTDs when I take the imperial armor. I could pass it up but I dont wanna move on if it's a conflict that needs reolving. Is it a conflicting mod problem or a known bug? I've tride disabling armor mods and armor textures but it continues either way. Any ideas. Boss has me ordered correctly with no errors or flags, looks good to me too but I still get this CTD if I take the armor. Im gonna try restarting a new game with none of the armor textures or additions and see if get the problem again. Any help is appreciated

 

Thanks,

J

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If I disable Immersive armors then it crashes at opening before any menu. What could the problem be? Edited May 6, 2013 by Descivii

[ripple]

I don't see the IA's plugin in your load order? At any rate, it's not linked to your CTD issue since it does not edit outfit records for generic imperial legion soldiers.

 

Replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

Edited May 6, 2013 by ripple

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Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active

Dawnguard.esm Active

HearthFires.esm Active

Dragonborn.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active
RaceCompatibility.esm Active
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Active
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
TradeBarter.esp Active

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Active
Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active
Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active

Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active
More Craftables.esp Active

Convertible Azura's Star.esp Active
SaderHorses.esp Active
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active

Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag.

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Mystic.esp Active
Immersive Weapons.esp Active

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active

Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active
Skyrim unleashed_items.esp Active

Skyrim unleashed_npc.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active

Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp Active
Better Vampires.esp Active
Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Active

 

 

 

 

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp Active
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Skyrim unleashed_enchantments.esp Active
Skyrim unleashed_crafting.esp Active

 

 

I had just ignored that body and have been able to pick up all other loot from bodies until the first bandits came to me. After killing them I looted the bodies and the same thing occured but it was a different piece of armor this time.

 

Thanks for the help,

J

Edited May 6, 2013 by Descivii

[ripple]

1) Cleaning: download TES5Edit from the link in the BOSS log, follow the instruction on the page, and clean all the plugins that has been flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' You'll need to remove identical to master entries as well as undelete/disable deleted references.

 

2) Maintenance: go through the BOSS log and look for any error messages, like this one, and attend to them.

Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

3) Are you using any animation or skeleton mods that do not come with plugins? Have you installed animation or skeleton mods in the past and (thought you completely) uninstalled them? Edited May 6, 2013 by ripple

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Im playing on a new game unrelated to any old save games. All old saves and mods are deleted. I am using Immersive Animation and XP32 Maximum Skeleton mod for Frostfall placing my quiver lower on my back.

 

Do you think cleaning will make a difference; I ask because I have not cleaned a mod before and want to make sure it is necessary before I risk causing more problems. I am willing to do so if you feel that it will benefit my situation without risking more trouble. I can't really correct the specific Note you point out because while it says there is a newer version, I could find no such thing except for optional extras that work with it.

 

 

Thanks

J

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...........Ok, so it's starting to look like one of any group is like this. I have the same problem with 1 of the first Vigilants of Standar I ran into and it was the robe this time that caused the crash. 1 of them I can take the clothes/armor from and the other I cannot but it will be the same 1 in each group repeatably.

[ripple]

1) Cleaning is just good load order maintenance. Unless you really want to hear the details about what sort of records are cleaned and why, basically you should clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits' to preempt any future issues. It's not the cause of the current CTD issue you are experiencing.

 

2) Try uninstalling 'Immersive Animations' and 'XP32 Maximum Skeleton' for now and see if it resolves the 'CTD when looting' problem.

 

3) if the BOSS log says that a plugin is obsolete, it usually means the updated version of that mod uses a new plugin with a different name (and is one of the ways BOSS is able to determine if you are still using an older version of the mod). I don't use DUEL so I can't verify if that is the case here. If you are -sure- you have the latest version, then ok. But generally, if you do, you shouldn't be receiving that message.

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Here's my new load with cleaning complete and Thank you for a bit of pressure to just dive in and learn

Skyrim.esm Active<br />
Update.esm Active<br />
<br />
Dawnguard.esm Active<br />
<br />
HearthFires.esm Active<br />
Dragonborn.esm Active<br />
ApachiiHair.esm Active<br />
RaceCompatibility.esm Active<br />
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active<br />
SPIKE.esm Active<br />
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active<br />
<br />
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Active<br />
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active<br />
<br />
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active<br />
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active<br />
<br />
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active<br />
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active<br />
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active<br />
TradeBarter.esp Active<br />
<br />
Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active<br />
Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active<br />
<br />
Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+<br />
<br />
Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active<br />
More Craftables.esp Active<br />
<br />
Convertible Azura's Star.esp Active<br />
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active<br />
<br />
Note: That users of versions below 5.1.1 should also include the Relev tag.<br />
<br />
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active<br />
<br />
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active<br />
ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active<br />
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active<br />
SkyUI.esp Active<br />
DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Active<br />
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active<br />
<br />
Immersive Weapons.esp Active<br />
<br />
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active<br />
<br />
Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp<br />
<br />
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active<br />
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active<br />
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active<br />
Skyrim unleashed_items.esp Active<br />
<br />
Skyrim unleashed_npc.esp Active<br />
<br />
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active<br />
<br />
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul<br />
<br />
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp Active<br />
Better Vampires.esp Active<br />
Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

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My Java is updated to 7- 21, I can't find any instance of old Flora overhaul and Immersive creatures has been updated to it's most current version. However, I find that the author of Duel is still active and the mod doesn't seem to be forgotten nor is there any indication that there is a newer version anywhere else. I don't know what to think of that. Finally, I don't use Realistic lighting so I don't know what that Note is about.

 

I'm off to see if the problem persists.
P.S. I already disabled those and they don't sem to have made any difference eitherway

Edited May 7, 2013 by Descivii

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nothing changed, still crashed on taking of robe

 

I can get rid of DUEL but I had the original crash before I had DUEL.

 

Thanks,

J

Edited May 7, 2013 by Descivii