Would it be legal...

[pridal]

Since it's not legal to import content of an other game (like Oblivion) to FO3 via mod, many possible mods remain undone.

 

Wouldn't it be great to import the models of a creature from Oblivion to Fallout3? Having Wolves and Deer running through the wasteland? Maybe a Vault inhabitated by Goblins??

Since the engine is basically the same, the opportunities would be limitless!

 

 

BethSoft says No. If you upload any mods that contain Data from Oblivion to FO3 Nexus, you'll get big troubles.

 

 

BUT what if you don't use any Oblivion Data inside your mod, but rather make it so the mod awaits the Data to already be present?

 

Only thing is this is only working for people who got Oblivion installed already!

 

What I mean is this:

for example make a mod that imports wolves from Oblivion to FO3.

 

.)First you use the models & textures from Oblivion to create the mod on your computer.

Nothing illegal till here, right?

 

.)Then you upload it to nexus, but without the models & textures!

Now we've got basically a mod that adds a creature to the game which uses files called "wolve.dds, wolve.nif" (or whatever they are called) which are not included in the mod itself.

 

.)Now you tell the user in your ReadMe how to copy the "wolve.dds & wolve.nif" from his oblivion install to the fallout data directory!

 

.)Done!

 

 

 

So it shouldn't be illegal, cause there are no copyright protected files shared, as all the troubling action happens on the PC of the mod user BY the mod user, and not in the mod.

 

 

If I ain't totally wrong, this could open biggest modding possibilities for us all!

Ok it's just for thos who also got oblivion and are able to copy&paste, but at least it's something!

 

What do you think about that?

[Baelkin]

I don't think it technically would be illegal as the person using the mod is responsible for completing the modifications with files he already technically has licence to use under the terms stated by Bethesda. The referenced models could be replaced with anything in the download like bogus placeholder models and textures the user just would have to replace with game resources extracted from his own Oblivion .bsa's.

 

I'm not sure how Bethsoft would respond to such a mod, even though it's technically a DIY mod where you just supply the schematics and the end-user has to complete it with his own files.

[VaultSniper]

That makes no sense, you buy the games, you use the data from the games you bought and place it into another of Bethesda's games and its illegal? That's like saying that someone buys two of the same hammers from a shop and one breaks and they use bits from the other to fix it(stupid example, I know).

 

You buy em, they should be yours to do anything with except peddle for cash.

[Baelkin]

That makes no sense, you buy the games, you use the data from the games you bought and place it into another of Bethesda's games and its illegal? That's like saying that someone buys two of the same hammers from a shop and one breaks and they use bits from the other to fix it(stupid example, I know).

 

You buy em, they should be yours to do anything with except peddle for cash.

 

Myeah, it's a bit of a grey area though.

 

It's like movie music - you aren't allowed to use a piece of popular music for whatever you want despite it being featured in a movie you own. Intellectual property just doesn't work that way, ridiculous as it is.

[Madballista]

Wasn't Morroblivion (a mod for Oblivion that imported the entire Morrowind into the Oblivion world through the same method mentioned above) closed down because it was illegal? I heard they went to court =.=

[ZableBlaze]

I doubt Bethesda would go to court over something such as that. They would simply ask the author to remove the file, and the author would comply.

[Merkurlicht]

technically, it IS legal, because you dont publicize licensed content. only users who already have Oblivion (hopefully bought) have the licenced content who are needed. should be totally OK oO

if beth is really such a %&$! and are going to forbid it, they shouldn´t have made FO3 moddable to begin with (which could´ve been a biiig mistake) ;o

[antonkr]

Why the heck do they think its illegal!!!!

If you put them in credits it should probably be legal

 

ps Its still legal if you make it and use by yourself ;)

[sumoftwosins]

Why the heck do they think its illegal!!!!

If you put them in credits it should probably be legal

 

ps Its still legal if you make it and use by yourself ;)

 

Read the massive end user agreement. Regardless of what the license grants you, no game developer is going to stop people from doing something that generates more community for their products.

[Kellao]

I had a question similar to this that no one answered. Mine was would it be illegal if I exported the possibilty to blow up megaton to people in Japan so that way they can do it on their game even though it was removed from the japanese version since they were sensitive about hiroshima and Nagasaki. as for your models. bringing in and putting into oblivion wouldnt be illegal. you just cant sell it and you have to explain that bethsoft created these models and that you take no credit in the work other than putting it together.

 

but can anyone answer my japan question its driving me crazy!