Removing "ice storm" from followers

[Thalassicus]

I've spent the past hour trying to figure out how to remove the Ice Storm spell from my follower. I googled varieties of the phrase "remove spell follower" without success. I don't understand why developers give this spell to followers. They use it constantly, it's too slow to hit moving targets, and causes allies to attack us.

I followed these steps:

Quote
Quote
Selected the follower.

forceav destruction 100

removespell 45f9c
"Ice storm does not exist on Serana."

addspell 10f7ee
"Thunderbolt added to Serana."

addspell 8d5c2
"Vampiric Drain added to Serana."

equipspell 10f7ee left
"Serana left spell set to Thunderbolt."

equipspell 8d5c2 right
"Serana right spell set to Vampiric Drain."

She continued spamming Ice Storm. I next tried a "resetai" command to end combat, but that didn't change anything. I also tried removing her spells with UFO, but it doesn't appear to support this follower. Do I need to edit the actor in the creation kit to remove Ice Storm? Or is she using some special form of Ice Storm that's different from the normal one players can acquire?

Update:

I looked in the CK and found she does indeed use a copy of the Ice Storm spell, identical in every way except the slow does not affect dragons. It's a strange distinction. I'm now trying to figure out how to change her leveling script to a different spell. The "edit source" option is not available for the script. Edited May 12, 2013 by Thalassicus

[Lanceor]

It seems that it is really difficult and/or impossible to remove an NPC's default spells. AFAIK, I was able to remove Chain Lightning from Marcuio (or at least he never used it) but I could never stop J'Zhargo from using Sparks. The only thing that I know works for sure is to edit the NPC's spell list in the CK.

[Thalassicus]

I managed to get her casting the spells I wanted: frost cloak, incinerate, and thunderbolt.

I found the spells her leveling script told her to use (creation kit -> actors -> serana -> script properties) and did a "removespell" for each of those IDs. They were custom spells not listed in the skyrim wikis. I can't figure out how to open the script itself (edit source is disabled), but I could view the properties of the script.

I then added the three spell IDs I wanted her to cast. I followed it up with equipspell for left and right (thunderbolt and incinerate), then a resetai to get her to choose those new spells.

I tested it by spawning 5 bandits for her to fight with "placeatme 39cf7 5".

Edited May 12, 2013 by Thalassicus

[blacksupernova]

 

I've spent the past hour trying to figure out how to remove the Ice Storm spell from my follower. I googled varieties of the phrase "remove spell follower" without success. I don't understand why developers give this spell to followers. They use it constantly, it's too slow to hit moving targets, and causes allies to attack us.

 

I followed these steps:

Quote

Quote

Selected the follower.

 

forceav destruction 100

 

removespell 45f9c

"Ice storm does not exist on Serana."

 

addspell 10f7ee

"Thunderbolt added to Serana."

 

addspell 8d5c2

"Vampiric Drain added to Serana."

 

equipspell 10f7ee left

"Serana left spell set to Thunderbolt."

 

equipspell 8d5c2 right

"Serana right spell set to Vampiric Drain."

She continued spamming Ice Storm. I next tried a "resetai" command to end combat, but that didn't change anything. I also tried removing her spells with UFO, but it doesn't appear to support this follower. Do I need to edit the actor in the creation kit to remove Ice Storm? Or is she using some special form of Ice Storm that's different from the normal one players can acquire?

 

Update:

 

I looked in the CK and found she does indeed use a copy of the Ice Storm spell, identical in every way except the slow does not affect dragons. It's a strange distinction. I'm now trying to figure out how to change her leveling script to a different spell. The "edit source" option is not available for the script.

If you simply want to remove the Ice storm from her, you can change the property of the script, not necessary open the script itself. But if you want to edit the script, exit CK, copy the script from data\scripts\source\dawnguard to data\scripts\source and start CK, the script will be available for editing

[Thalassicus]

@blacksupernova

Thank you! That was very helpful.

Edited May 12, 2013 by Thalassicus

[Graywolfe]

is there a way to disable her spell without the CK? it does not work for me for some reason and i would really like to change her spell casting too.

 

what are her spell IDs? if i can get those i will just use the console to remove her reanimate corpse spell.

 

 

well just in case anyone wants to know i found a mod that let me get rid of her necro spells

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/21961/?tab=1&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D21961%26preview%3D&pUp=1

 

 

now the modder set her up with fire, ice and lighting spells and they can not be removed, at least not by me. i have learned that anytime a followers spell also says equiped left or right hand it gives it a different id # and we can not through the console find the number, remove it or unequip it. now if i could just get me CK to work i might be able to find more.