GoldenDragon66 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I was hoping you guys could help me out with a rather big problem i've been having with Skyrim recently, which i'm pretty sure is mod related. Atm the problems i'm having arerandom crash to desktops while outdoors without any error message at allrandom freezeups when outside (no looping sound)game freezes when a spell is cast (no looping sound, happens indoors and outdoors)infinite loading screens, need to reload a previous save in an interior cell before the particular save will load correctly. Sometimes doing so doesn't help at all and i'm forced to start from an earlier save. I can usually tell when it's happening when the "working" LED on my PC stops flashing.More often than not, purple/missing textures usually precede one of those issues minus the spell cast freeze, which can happen without warning. I'm not sure what's causing this problem, since I have a pretty good PC all in all. I currently have 226 mods running atm and did some tweaks to my skyrimprefs and skyrim ini files as well, and i'm also running the 0.90 version of Superb ENB. My computer specs are as follows: OS: Windows 7 64 bit SP1CPU: Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.80 GHzRAM: 6 GB Triple-channel DDR3 @ 533 MHzGraphics: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz edition Also, here's my latest BOSS log atm: Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ApachiiHair.esm ActiveApachiiHairFemales.esm ActiveAzarHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveEagleEyePerk.esm ActiveNote: Use only one EagleEyePerk esmJSwords.esm ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012). A fixed and cleaned version can be obtained here.Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm ActiveLevelersTower.esm ActiveOmegared99-Compilation.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm Activeportal2mod.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.HighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Activesh_hf_falkr_fix.esp Activesh_hf_hjaal_fix.esp Activesh_hf_pale_fix.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Activeaelafacelift.esp ActiveDelphine Makeover D2.esp Activemjollfacelift-v4-1-Blonde.esp ActiveYsolda.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveLonger Weather Transitions.esp ActiveMoreRain.esp Activebetter dynamic snow.esp ActiveRainbows.esp ActiveRevampedExteriorFog.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2 no splatter.esp Activerandomthunder.esp Activerealrain.esp ActiveMintyLightningMod.esp ActivePersonalizedMusic - NoVanillaMusic_v5.0.esp ActivePersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp ActiveSkyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp Activestaticmeshimprovementmod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveEconomics of Skyrim.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}arrowsstick.esp ActiveBag of Holding.esp ActiveBook Covers Skyrim.esp ActiveCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern.esp Activecolored_dragonscale_v1.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Default.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.People Have Torches.esp ActivePupetteer Master.esp ActiveSDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp ActiveSDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp ActiveSDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp ActiveSDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp ActiveShootingStars.esp ActiveSkyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveTorchesForSkyrim_x2.esp ActiveNote: Use only one of TorchesForSkyrim espContains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.TorchesForSkyrim.esp ActiveNote: Use only one of TorchesForSkyrim espContains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Convenient Horses.esp Activeauto unequip ammo.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveFootprints - Ash.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.WetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveLessIntrusiveHUD.esp ActiveArcher's.esp Activebackpackfrankdema.esp ActiveBandanas of Skyrim.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.esp ActiveBloodWitchArmor.esp ActiveBouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp Active1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp ActiveDaedricCorset.esp ActiveDDD-BardsLute.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.DiamondWeaponsN.esp ActiveDK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Activej3x-autocrossbows.esp ActiveElewin Jewelry.esp Activeexparrow.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Field Mage Outfit.esp ActiveGuild Duelist Armor.esp Activehothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Inquisitor Set.esp ActiveInsanity's Chrysamere.esp ActiveInsanity's Dragon Katana.esp ActiveInsanity's Goldbrand.esp ActiveInsanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp ActiveInsanity's Silver Bow.esp ActiveInsanity's Sorrow.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Insanity's Steel Bow.esp ActiveInsanity's Umbra Sword.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Insanity's Zatoichi.esp ActiveisilNarsil.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.LadyKdCirclets.esp ActiveLeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp ActiveNote: Use only one LeatherBackPack Black espLeatherBackpackBrown-100.esp ActiveNote: Use only one LeatherBackPack Brown espLOTR Shield Pack.esp ActiveMashupUNP.esp ActiveMedusa and Drakul Armors.esp ActiveOmegared99-WeaponSets.esp Activeprivate_singular_quivers.esp ActivePushup-Bikini.esp ActiveR18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp ActiveSED7-CBBE3-BM_ALLin1-EDITION.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female bodyTERAArmors_CBBE.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.TH3WICK3D1-BlueStripesEliteArmor.esp ActiveTribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTrissArmorRetextured.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Unique Uniques.esp ActiveUniqueBows.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.UNPArmoredBikini.esp ActiveYogWeapons.esp Activedr_bandolier.esp Activedr_bandolierdg.esp ActiveLock Overhaul.esp Activejkjsenhancedhotpools.esp ActiveHF_Lakeview_Pool_and_Hotbath.esp ActiveHF_Lakeview_North_Perimeter_Fence.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp ActiveSkyrimChimneysRW.esp ActiveSweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp ActiveRequires: CBBEthe paarthurnax dilemma.esp Activewhiteruntrees.esp Activelighterdragonscalesandbones.esp ActiveAchieveThat.esp ActiveHeadtracking.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}PalistovSpinningArrows.esp ActivePalistovSpinningArrows_Dawnguard.esp ActiveSFO - Expanded Diversity.esp ActiveNote: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Activetorches for realistic lighting.esp ActiveSkyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveSoundPropagationOverhaul.esp ActiveFootstepsSoundsOverhaul.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting - Addon.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Patcher.esp ActiveASX_Spells.esp Activekdansky_indefinitebuffs.esp ActiveDeadlySpellImpacts.esp ActiveEnchanting Freedom.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp ActiveDuel - Combat Realism.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.Dodge Mod.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.vDynamicDifficulty.esp ActiveSneak Tools.esp ActiveStealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}ActionPoser.esp ActivedD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ActivePinups.esp ActivePinups4.esp ActivePinups5.esp ActivePinups2.esp ActivePinups3.esp ActivevImmersiveBeds.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Activedagi_raht_race.esp ActiveEpicElves by zzjay.esp ActiveOhmesRaht.esp ActiveTemptressVixen.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 29 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.WOME_Arwen.esp Activefollowerwander2.esp ActiveNote: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp has the same functional, but you can use FollowerWander2.esp on your choice.FollowerWander2Serana.esp ActiveWATER.esp ActiveWATER Plants.esp ActiveBarenziahQuestMarkers.esp ActiveDragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp ActiveCompatibility Patch - PHT IA.esp Active The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed. frea.esp ActiveChitinGoggles.esp ActiveFaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp ActiveDiamondCrossbow.esp ActiveDiamondArmorN.esp ActiveSSR_FewerLockpicks.esp ActivePinupsEX1.esp ActivePinupsEX2.esp ActivePinupsEX3.esp ActiveTauriel.esp ActiveAsterCompanion.esp ActiveLaraCroftDefaultHair.esp ActiveInsanity's Glass Bow.esp ActiveInsanity's Iron Bow.esp Activemorrowindimports.esp ActiveDungeonExplorer.esp Activefort_dawnguard-improvements.esp Activehghwaymnsawrd.esp ActiveThird Era - Dwemer.esp Activemiraak's loot enhanced.esp Activesputnik.esp Activetimefreeze.esp ActiveSeverinManorImprovements.esp ActiveGR123 Knights Templar.esp Activearmbandages.esp Activepanty.esp ActivePainkiller's_Hrothmund's_Axe.esp ActiveDwemerCoins.esp ActivezzMaidOutfits.esp ActiveRegnPiercings.esp ActiveOsare Panty.esp ActiveKrev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp ActiveFur Collar.esp ActiveTroll Hunter Armor by Hothtrooper44.esp Activemxdemonicracepreview.esp ActiveMiqo'tecbbe.esp Active also just in case a bad ini tweak is causing the problem, here's the ini files as well: Skyrim.ini [General]sLanguage=ENGLISHuGridsToLoad=7uExterior Cell Buffer=64bDisableGearedUp=0[Display]fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass]iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive]sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7f3ParrowTiltUpAngle=0.7 [Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0bEnableLogging=1bEnableTrace=1bLoadDebugInformation=1iMinMemoryPageSize=128iMaxMemoryPageSize=512iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800[Water]bReflectLODObjects=1bReflectLODLand=1bReflectSky=1bReflectLODTrees=1[Actor]fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 SkyrimPrefs.ini [General]fBrightLightColorB=1.0000fBrightLightColorG=1.0000fBrightLightColorR=1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0[imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1iRadialBlurLevel=2[Display]iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000fShadowDistance=8000.0000iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048iShadowSplitCount=2iMaxAnisotropy=16fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000fGamma=1.0000fDecalLOD2=1500.0000fDecalLOD1=1000.0000fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000iTexMipMapMinimum=0iTexMipMapSkip=0iWaterMultiSamples=0iMultiSample=16iShadowMode=3bTreesReceiveShadows=0bDrawLandShadows=1bFull Screen=1iSize H=1080iSize W=1920fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000iScreenShotIndex=2bShadowMaskZPrepass=0bMainZPrepass=0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100bFloatPointRenderTarget=1sD3DDevice="ENB"bFXAAEnabled=1iShadowMapResolution=4096fShadowBiasScale=0.1500iShadowMaskQuarter=4iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=1iShadowFilter=3bShadowsOnGrass=1bTransparencyMultisampling=0bDeferredShadows=1bDrawShadows=1[Grass]b30GrassVS=0fGrassStartFadeDistance=14000.0000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000[MAIN]bGamepadEnable=1bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.0000bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000[GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=2[interface]bDialogueSubtitles=0bGeneralSubtitles=0fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000bShowCompass=1[Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125bAlwaysRunByDefault=0bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=1bMouseAcceleration=1bUseKinect=0[Particles]iMaxDesired=750[saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000[AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID7=3954fVal6=1.0000uID6=587283219fVal5=1.0000uID5=410705fVal4=1.0000uID4=992187fVal3=1.0000uID3=94881fVal2=0.5000uID2=466532fVal1=1.0000uID1=554685fVal0=0.8000uID0=1007612[Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000[TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=250000.0000fBlockMaximumDistance=350000.0000fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000bShowLODInEditor=0[NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha=0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000fEdgeThickness=10.0000fPointSize=2.5000[Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20[Decals]uMaxDecals=1000bDecals=1bSkinnedDecals=1uMaxSkinDecals=100uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60[LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=150.0000fLODFadeOutMultItems=150.0000fLODFadeOutMultActors=150.0000fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000[Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=1uLastAspectRatio=3[blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=1[blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0[Water]iWaterReflectHeight=1024iWaterReflectWidth=1024bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterRefractions=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterDepth=1 and the last 40ish lines of the most recent log file in case an errant script is causing the issue: [05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__01018802 to (1E018802) because their base types do not match[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2AE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2AD) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2A4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property ATMain on script AT_OnLoadScript attached to alias AliasforPlayer on quest AT_QST113 (880058DF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property SoulGemCommonFilled on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property SoulGemGreaterFilled on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property EOSSoulGems on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property SoulGemPettyFilled on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property EOSCraftActivatorEnchantingREF on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property EOSEnchNotEnoughGoldMSG on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property SoulGemLesserFilled on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property EOSSoulGemStorageContainerREF on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property SoulGemGrandFilled on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Gold001 on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property EnchantPerks on script aaTKEconSmithServiceBaseFunctions attached to EOSTKMerchantServicesQuest (2E0157BF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property portal2Contrail on script portal2ControlScript attached to (0F003320) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property BagOfHoldingARMO on script BagOfHoldingPlayerAliasScript attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest BagOfHoldingQUST (30052FE4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2A8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2A5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2A7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2A6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2AC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2AB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2AA) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2AF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property Puppet on script JBPuppetChestScript attached to (3700F2B7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property HuntingLocation on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (B5000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property ItemColFaction on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (B5000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property HuntQuest on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (B5000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property hunter on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (B5000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property UnlockKeyed on script KRY_LockpickingSTART attached to KRY_Lockpicking_START (A300182A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[05/12/2013 - 04:31:12AM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property Hopefully you guys can help me solve my issues so I can finally play this game without having to worry about it crashing/freezing every 5 minutes, lol. :biggrin: Edited May 12, 2013 by GoldenDragon_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Can you replace your load order with the BOSS log (Including the messages) and enclose in spoiler tags. Also note any mods you have recently removed or that don't appear in the BOSS log.Also can you replace your attached files with copy/paste of the text edits, enclosed in spoiler tags. You only need to post the last 40 or so lines of your papyrus. The spoiler tag is in the pull down menu of the 3 icon from the right in the top toolbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDragon66 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Can you replace your load order with the BOSS log (Including the messages) and enclose in spoiler tags. Also note any mods you have recently removed or that don't appear in the BOSS log.Also can you replace your attached files with copy/paste of the text edits, enclosed in spoiler tags. You only need to post the last 40 or so lines of your papyrus. The spoiler tag is in the pull down menu of the 3 icon from the right in the top toolbar. Done :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hi, Well, Skyrim doesn't produce error messages on a crash, so that is to be expected. Here are some ideas I have. 1. Have you manually placed the mods BOSS doesn't recognize, either as the mod author in structs (if that is stated), or with similar type mods? If not, that could be the issue (also if you place them based on similar mods, that may be the problem, you might try moving them around to see if that helps. 2. You may have to do the TESedit thing. Also, with so many mods, it may help to look into Wrye Bash. 3. I'm a little troubled by the "mods at the moment" statement. If you have been adding/removing mods, the problem could be with a mod you removed rather than your current mods. In that case, you may find it easier to start a new clean install/new game. 4. Is the papyrus log from a time that you had a problem, or just a recent papyrus log? It looks to me like Economies of Skyrim is spamming your papyrus log a bit, but if this wasn't taken at a time you were experiencing freezing, then it is probably not a problem. Is there a reason you are using SFO instead of just UFO, which has the same function incorporated in it? 5. ugrids--I use 7 ugrids, I love it, but it is more unstable. I deal with that by lowering settings elsewhere.I know your system is burly, but I'm wondering if with all the mods and ini changes you are exceeding the game engine's capabilities. Here are some ideas, but of course use your own judgement and make a backup!. Ini changes, maybe: --all of the LOD fade settings that you have on 1000000-- I know these are popularly advocated, but the default is usually around 5000. You could chop off a zero and still be increasing the default 200X. Might be worth playing around with.--Same thing with your terrain distances. Have you tried lowering them and seeing at what point your game's visuals actually decrease to where you don't like it?--fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000 Have you tried raising this? (I use 4.0) Higher values should increase the detail of nearby terrain, and may compensate for lowering other the other values. --Auto save is a major culprit of savegame corruption, the thing you are probably experiencing when you find your game isn't loading correctly. Disabling all autosaves and quicksaves will greatly decrease your problems in that area. It only takes a little practice to train yourself to use full saves. There also used to be a mod around that tied full saves to a function key, but I don't recall what it was called or if it is still active.--If you don't use a game pad, you can toggle the game pad settings to 0 --16X AA (Multisample) is likely going to slow down your game. Have you tried 8 (or less)? Or using alternates to game AA through your driver? That's what I can think of at the moment, hope something there helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDragon66 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hi, Well, Skyrim doesn't produce error messages on a crash, so that is to be expected. Here are some ideas I have. 1. Have you manually placed the mods BOSS doesn't recognize, either as the mod author in structs (if that is stated), or with similar type mods? If not, that could be the issue (also if you place them based on similar mods, that may be the problem, you might try moving them around to see if that helps. 2. You may have to do the TESedit thing. Also, with so many mods, it may help to look into Wrye Bash. 3. I'm a little troubled by the "mods at the moment" statement. If you have been adding/removing mods, the problem could be with a mod you removed rather than your current mods. In that case, you may find it easier to start a new clean install/new game. 4. Is the papyrus log from a time that you had a problem, or just a recent papyrus log? It looks to me like Economies of Skyrim is spamming your papyrus log a bit, but if this wasn't taken at a time you were experiencing freezing, then it is probably not a problem. Is there a reason you are using SFO instead of just UFO, which has the same function incorporated in it? 5. ugrids--I use 7 ugrids, I love it, but it is more unstable. I deal with that by lowering settings elsewhere.I know your system is burly, but I'm wondering if with all the mods and ini changes you are exceeding the game engine's capabilities. Here are some ideas, but of course use your own judgement and make a backup!. Ini changes, maybe: --all of the LOD fade settings that you have on 1000000-- I know these are popularly advocated, but the default is usually around 5000. You could chop off a zero and still be increasing the default 200X. Might be worth playing around with.--Same thing with your terrain distances. Have you tried lowering them and seeing at what point your game's visuals actually decrease to where you don't like it?--fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000 Have you tried raising this? (I use 4.0) Higher values should increase the detail of nearby terrain, and may compensate for lowering other the other values. --Auto save is a major culprit of savegame corruption, the thing you are probably experiencing when you find your game isn't loading correctly. Disabling all autosaves and quicksaves will greatly decrease your problems in that area. It only takes a little practice to train yourself to use full saves. There also used to be a mod around that tied full saves to a function key, but I don't recall what it was called or if it is still active.--If you don't use a game pad, you can toggle the game pad settings to 0 --16X AA (Multisample) is likely going to slow down your game. Have you tried 8 (or less)? Or using alternates to game AA through your driver? That's what I can think of at the moment, hope something there helps! Would I have to start a new game if I used the 3rd and second last methods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 3rd yes.Second last? This confuses me. If you mean 4th, then no. If you mean the autosaves thing--you don't need to start a new game to disable autosaves. However, if you have corrupted saves causing your problem you may end up having to start over if you can't find a stable game among your saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDragon66 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 3rd yes.Second last? This confuses me. If you mean 4th, then no. If you mean the autosaves thing--you don't need to start a new game to disable autosaves. However, if you have corrupted saves causing your problem you may end up having to start over if you can't find a stable game among your saves. Yeah, the autosave and gamepad method is what I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ah, all you have to do is:1. Backup your prefs.ini file. (If it is in write protected mod, then you will need to undo that.) 2. Go to the lines that related to autosaves, and change the values to 0, which toggles them off. Example (these will not all be in one spot in your ini file, I just pulled them out to show you. Please don't cut/paste, just find this lines in your prefs.ini and change the value.)bSaveOnPause=0bSaveOnTravel=0bSaveOnWait=0bSaveOnRest=0 bGamepadEnable=0bGamePadRumble=0fAutosaveEveryXMins=0.0000 This will prevent new autosaves, but will not prevent any problems already created by old autosaves.To find a good, working save, I suggest looking in your savegame folder for saves with an ess. suffix, that were made after the last changes you have made to your game (so after the latest patch, last mod change, etc). Otherwise, even a full save may not work for you, as it may require data that is no longer present in your game. If you do find one, and that actually fixes your game, once you are sure that it works I suggest going back to your saves folder and deleting (or at least removing to a differnt folder) and mods that have a .tmp or .bak suffix. That way you wont accidentally load them if your cat steps on a function key (not saying that ever happens to me.. :whistling: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prod80 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Ok, before you go into ANY troubleshooting with textures, load order and whatnot do this first Skyrim.ini; Set these back to default values; uGridsToLoad=7 (Default: 5)uExterior Cell Buffer=64 (Default: 36) Start a new game with those settings (loading an old save will not work) See if you still CTD randomly. uGridsToLoad > 5 + Heavy modded game = Expect problems. I been there... I now use Distant enhancement mods and LOD detail mods with uGridsToLoad 5 and havent had a CTD since on a heavy modded game with a 1GB VRAM card. Edited May 13, 2013 by prod80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree, the problem is overburdening the game with lots of LOD changes, mods, and 7grids.Like I said, the OP needs to decide where they are willing to try to reduce the load on their game.I have a stable 7ugrids game bit was willing to make concessions elsewhere to use it. It comes down to what is most important to the player, one cannot have everything even with a giant of a computer rig (which I do not have.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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