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Skyrim is basically unplayable for me right now. I like to immerse myself as much as possible, so I've disabled fast travel and up the costs of carriages so I have to explore and take my time. Unfortunately I can't cross into another hold without my game arbitrarily CTD. At first I thought it was just Falkreath, but now I'm trying to go to Whiterun and my game crashes as soon as I hit the outskirts. I can't even COC into a hold cell without my game crashing. The game is unplayable, a real kick in the teeth after coming back from a 4 month hiatus from a similar technical issue. I've looked at other forums; I've tried the recommended solutions but none of them have been fruitful. Someone please save me from my own frustration.

 

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In those 4 months, have you updated your mods (and removed obsolete ones) and started a new game or how exactly did you go about it? Any more details about it... eg, which mods are you using? have you sorted them with some software (BOSS)? are they up to date? are you using an old save or new game? etc...


need some more info to be able to give you some tips...

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It's an old save but I would be heartbroken if I have to start again. I've invested a little more than 20 hours into this one character. Yes, I've checked my load order using both BOSS and TES5Edit. BOSS checks out (albeit with one or two "obsolete" mods) and TES5Edit went through without error. Here are my major mods:

 

HiAlgo

XCE

Winterhold Expanded Ruins

Whiterun Outskirts Market

Wet and Cold

Warburgs Paper Map

W.A.T.E.R

All Unofficial Patches

UFO

Sounds of Nature

Skyrim Redone

Static Mesh Improvement Mod (from what I understand it has caused this issue before but I have uninstalled it and the problem persisted)

Solitude Docks District

SkyUI

2K Texture Pack

Flora Overhaul

Realistic Needs and Diseases

A plethora of "Real Cities" mods

Project Reality

Lush Grass

Improved NPC Clothing (Hi-Res and Compatibility patch)

ImpREAL Empire

Frostfall

Footsteps Sound Overhaul

Ethereal Elven Overhaul

Enhanced Cities

Economics of Skyrim

Duel Sheath Redux

 

Those are the major gameplay changing ones. I left out armors mods, weapon mods, aesthetic mods and other non-essential nuance mods.

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Traced, are you using SBW? (Simple Borderless Window)

 

I've gone through this this week, uninstalling and reinstalling mods, formating my machine, reinstalling Skyrim, cleaning masters, cleaning mods, using BOSS, making bashed patches...

 

Turns out it was SBW the whole time.

 

Also was causing CTD on save game loads.

 

Try without SBW if you are using it.

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Well, you could be looking at issues related to the 1.9 patch, if you took your hiatus before that.

 

Could you please replace your mod list with the actual BOSS log text file, including messages (enclose in spoiler tags). A partial mod list is really not helpful.

Also please list:

Any mods that don't show up there (non-esp mods)

Your computer specs (processor, CPU, RAM GPU VRAM, driver version)

Game specs (version of skyrim, game settings, any other game related programs like skse, NMM, etc. and their versions)

Please note if you use the workshop for mods, NMM, or something else.

Also please copy/paste your pref.ini txt file and .ini file text (enclosed in spoiler tags) if you have made any changes there.

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Specs: i-5k 4x 3300MHz

Radeon HD6900 (2GB VRAM? I'm away from my actual computer and am doing this off my head)

I can't tell you what my motherboard is, but it was relatively top tier a year and a half ago.

 

I'm using SKSE (latest version) and NMM (latest version).

 

I'm playing the latest released version of Skyrim (with DLC), with everything on it's highest possible setting except for shadows (low), anti aliasing (8x) and anisotropic filtering (8x).

 

You'll have to give me brief tutorial where to find my complete BOSS log and I'll upload it as soon as I get home.

Sorry for the ambiguity, frustration gets the best of us all sometimes.

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If you are not using BOSS (it sounds like you are) then you need to download it then run it.

Assuming you are using BOSS, simply make sure you have it set to generate the lod in txt file vs html, copy/paste the whole thing into your post and enclose in spoiler tags.

Once you get home you can easily find your computer specs by clicking on the help tab in stem, then click on system information. It will bring up a bunch of info but really all that is needed are the few things I mentioned.

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Hold on to your hat...

 

 

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The spoiler tag is in the pull-down menu of the 3rd icon from the left in the top toolbar. Saves people the trouble of not having to break their scrolling finger and increases they chance for you that they will bother to read the whole thread and post their own help.

 

Before doing that, I would recommend addressing all the messages BOSS is giving you (obsolete files, conflicting mods, etc, then rerunning BOSS before posting.

You will need to manually place all the unrecognized mods as the mod author instructs or failing that with similar mods.

Since BOSS does not recognize them, it could be that one of those mods is causing the conflict (For example many mods are not compatible with skyre), so I would suggest rereading the mod page closely to determine not just placement but whether the mod is a good fit with the rest of your mod list/esps, etc.

 

Finally, you are saying the crashes come only when crossing from one hold to another? Or fast travel via carriages only?

I'd look at carefully removing the mods you have related to maps, carriages, etc if the crash is that specific.

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