Crash When Going Outside

[Cremdogz]

Yeah, I can't get out. not sure what mod did it, however ever since I installed DarNified, Oblivion has been going wack, constant crashes (I only used to get the occasional crash, meaning my computer is too hot, and it was always right, and I'm running MMM) and not to mention it stops a few other mods from working. One mod ups the spellmaking values times 3. And a journal mod, it stuffed that up too. It's no longer active (since it screwed up custom loading screens mod, and the fact that it wouldn't work in menus, either escape or personal or talking to someone) and Oblivion is crashing every time I try to exit. I have made a few tries, but with minimal success.

 

With me are 2 Midas Magic Companion Companions, Christina and Zoe. I have Astral Recall, and it 20% of the time works. However, if it does work, it lags like I've never seen lack before, and I've seen online brawl matches.

 

One time, (it took ages) I slowly made my way to get to Midas' basement (recently installed new version, but problem was happening way before it) and I succeeded, before crashing. Next time, I went there without any companions, and I made a fair way. I made it to Skingrad to tell the Count of the vampires I've killed, and he gave me info on Mannimarco.

 

There were many problems though, it lacked like I've never seen before, the lighting is now screwed (it's now super mega bright everywhere), the loading screens take forever, and just constant fear and frustration of whether it's going to crash or not.

 

I'm fed up, I'm pretty much stuck there till someone helps me out. And I'd love to tell all of you all the hundreds of mods I'm using (I tried removing a lot of them, even putting the resolution to it's smallest, same problem), but that will take forever, since I have a big day ahead and should be in bed right now. I did see in an earlier topic that someone had every mod of there's in code or something, so if someone can teach me how to do that, that'd be awesome. Also, if someone knows my problem without my list, please help. I guess what I'm asking for is this.

 

1. Why does it get to the end of loading the loading screen, then when it's nearly done each and everytime, it freezes (music keeps playing) when I try to leave the cavern.

2. Why does the cavern seem slower?

3. Why is there lag I've never seen that slow before in the Astral Plane?

4. Why didn't DarNified work (OMOD version)?

5. Why couldn't I use the mouse to select stuff when activating DarNified (same for arrow buttons, except they were stuffed up)

6. (Off topic) why is it when I unsummon a monster on Midas Magic, when I fast travel, it's back at my side again? (Doesn't screw up anything, just annoying.

7. How can I copy a list of all mods I'm using for you guys to know and help with?

 

I'll sleep on it for now, and I'll check back in the morning. Thanks a lot in advance for the help.

[dezdimona]

General Load-Order Guidelines

Here are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally.

 

~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later.

 

~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN)

 

~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through.

 

Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later).

 

So basically, it stacks up like this...

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Minor Mods / DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mod/Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

 

 

 

Expanded Load-Order Guidelines

by dev_akm

 

I would extend this to include:

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Weather/Environment/Sound Mods>

<Minor Mods/New Items/Houses/DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

<Quests>

<Compatibility Patches/UOMP/Merged Leveled Lists>

 

And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example).

 

That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together.

 

Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):

....

Oblivion

unoffical patch

Deeper realism mods that add sights and sounds

added content like weapons/items

gameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'

The OOO type

the 'new begining' type mod..

................................................................................

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[myrmaad]

7. How can I copy a list of all mods I'm using for you guys to know and help with?

 

 

Oblivion Mod Manager

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s269/Karandras55/part1-2.jpg

[Cremdogz]

Sorry for not responding, but I guess it doesn't harm anyone but me, so the apology doesn't mean too much. Anyway:

 

Oblivion.esm

CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

bookplacing.esm

CM Partners.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

cssBase.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Constant Yellow Light.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Talos Plaza.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Elven Gardens.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Green Emperor Way.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Prison.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arena.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arboretum.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - The Arcane University.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Temple.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Waterfront.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Border Removal.esp

FathisFix.esp

bookplacing.esp

Blades Ceremonial Armour.esp

CharGenAmulet.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

boethia custom race.esp

mg19obsefix.esp

IlluminationWithin.esp

ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

witchkingsword.esp

ImprovedSoulgems.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

No psychic guards harder fix.esp

300_Artifacts.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp

Knights.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

RingwraithArmorGlass.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

BNewShockFunnelEffects20.esp

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp

EnchantmentRestore.esp

fenrirbyxilver.esp

JOJOeffect.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

GoddessArmor_Exnem.esp

Playable Golden Saint Race.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting.esp

Wayshrines in the University.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

Star Boi's Keyblades In-Game.esp

StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Noble Plate Armory.esp

Bloodeus'UniqueStuff.esp

24hourArena.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

cssCalisto.esp

cssEdwin.esp

cssKeldorn.esp

cssMazzy.esp

cssNalia.esp

cssRhett.esp

cssSafana.esp

cssSarevok.esp

ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp

cssJaheira.esp

Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp

cssCernd.esp

Fantasy Mod.esp

cssIrenicus.esp

cssImoen.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

MannimarcoRevisited.esp

GTAesgaard.esp

LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

MountainTower.esp

TOTF.esp

UFF Lady Shadow.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

Wyrmfang.esp

AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.esp

bartholm.esp

Tamara.esp

Aliyah.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

LoadingScreensSI.esp

Raiders of Cyrodil.esp

Mart's Monster Mod.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

BlackLuster.esp

CTAddPose_osr1.esp

CTAddPose_osr2.esp

CTAddPose_osr3.esp

PCSoundNalia.esp

ScaryCastle.esp

pale_rider's Armory of The Divine Guardian.esp

Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp

tona_muffler.esp

BaurusRunsInSewers.esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp

VHBloodlines 1.2.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Journeyman_armor.esp

DM-Butterfly Widow.esp

tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp

tona_whitesquall-armor.esp

TrainerFind.esp

Hentai_Compilation.esp

SPB Mercenary Armors.esp

tona_shadow-walker.esp

Stylish Jump.esp

Hiyoko_Store.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Origin of the Mages Guild.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Market.esp

MHSNfuru.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

MHSNKirin.esp

tona_whitesquall-armor_ver2.esp

kingdomofAlmar.esp

CleanQuit.esp

Duplicator.esp

tona_casual_&_quiet_muffler_v2.esp

Unique Dungeons - Lost Glory.esp

RefScope.esp

Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp

tona_traveling_items.esp

Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp

HentaiNewSweetClothes.esp

AAbuiesdaqun.esp

1DeadlyShadows.esp

MidasSpells.esp

YetAnotherHotkeyMod.esp

Elwing.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

CuteElf11.esp

TheElderCouncil.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

TheNecromancer.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Unique Dungeons - Lichs Lair.esp

MidasMagicCompanions.esp

LainPoseMODv1.4.esp

Automagic Bags.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

 

I don't understand why this is happening, MMM works fine, completely fine in everyway, didn't stuff up when I played for a while with it.

[bben46]

Sometimes crashes like this one happen because you removed a mod. Was your mod list the same when you tried to leave the cave as when you went in?

 

Try this, It's still experimental, but it's getting good revues.

Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282

[Cremdogz]

I think I did remove a mod, but it was an unimportant one. I can give a more accurate description of the problem. It's not just going outside, it's going anywhere. It's not necessarily lag (though it is lag) the screen is flickering, as if it's still loading the picture or redoing the picture. I also went on to add all the mods I had used in the past and added them all and it still doesn't work. I also do have that above link you gave me, there's been no difference.

 

Another problem of mine. I went to make a new character. I can move the cursor to edit the looks, like say, age, but I can't choose stuff. What I mean is I can control the face, age, etc, but I can't choose hair styles, eyes, but for some reason, I can still pick races. The other stuff just stays stuck, just like it did when I installed DarNiFied. I really want to get 2 characters going (one male, one female, my current one) but I want them to look good, not default.