Creation Kit Follower avoiding conflicts

[bojanni]

Hi,

 

So I decided to make my own custom voiced follower. I watch and read a lot of tutorials but what I can't figure out is how to get the follower not be on the vanilla system (like explained here: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1367812-basic-requirements-for-an-off-vanilla-follower/) to avoid conflicts. There are certain things in this article that are a little abracadabra to me. I loaded some other followers in the Creation Kit (like Inigo) to see how it's done , but I feel I need a push in the right direction.

 

I already know how to add dialogue topics / branches and experienced with quest stages by making a short quest. It's just that I need to get this sorted so I can go fully into shaping the character further.

 

Anyone know a good tutorial and / or has the time to explain this all to me?

 

Thanks.

 

 

[skinnytecboy]

Matthiaswagg has a rather nice tutorial on his site: http://skyrimmw.weebly.com/skyrim-modding/setting-up-a-custom-follower-framework-skyrim-modding-tutorial

[bojanni]

Hey thanks, just found it too and trying to make it work. Already have a headache though :( Did you use this too for your follower?

[skinnytecboy]

Not originally, Ben is currently attached to the generic.system. I'm in the process of trying to change him over, but having a few teething problems due to scripts attached to his old follower dialogue. For me, I have to re address it to the new quest before I can see for sure if its working.

 

It does appear to work in Principle, but not well with his old dialogue still there in the background.

[skinnytecboy]

Opps! double post..

Edited October 15, 2014 by skinnytecboy

[skinnytecboy]

Eek Treble post. Damn my fat fingers!

 

A quick skyrim joke to compensate..

 

 

What' the difference between a Bard and a Dung Merchant?

 

None. They both talk crap! :laugh:

Edited October 15, 2014 by skinnytecboy

[bojanni]

:D

 

Well, I got the scripts in the tutorial to compile. I am now trying to make my NPC follow me. The conditions in the tutorial don't work for me (the follow option won't show up) so I only used getID for now. Unfortunately it won't work. Papyrus log says:

 

Error: Cannot call FollowerFollow() on a None object, aborting function call :(

Edited October 15, 2014 by bojanni

[skinnytecboy]

:D

 

Well, I got the scripts in the tutorial to compile. I am now trying to make my NPC follow me. The conditions in the tutorial don't work for me (the follow option won't show up) so I only used getID for now. Unfortunately it won't work. Papyrus log says:

 

Error: Cannot call FollowerFollow() on a None object, aborting function call :sad:

 

It's all a bit fiddly, but you need to generate a script on dialogue first with " ; " and then add properties as shown in the script examples (changing prefixs etc) and then edit the source (cut and paste, change prefixs). Have you tried to recompile your scripts? It works for me, but Ben still tries to also use his old dialogue, this causes a blank screen when trying to activate follower tasks. But if I continually click on him, the options eventually appear. I know that this is because I have yet to remove his old scripts.

 

Possibly bad question, did you generate SEQ file and are you using a clean save? :blush:

[bojanni]

Oh dear, I feel really nooby now. What do you mean with ';'. You mean a script that only contains that character?

 

I generated a SEQ file after I created the dialoguequest and followercontrolquest. Is it maybe I made two quest instead of one. Putting the dialogue in the one and the followercontrol (with aliasscript) in the other?

 

I am testing on a save that has not had this NPC previously loaded.

 

Thanks for you help by the way.

 

My scripts so far:

 

Alias:

 

 

Scriptname BO_FollowerAliasScript extends ReferenceAlias

BO_FollowerControlQuestScript Property BO_FollowerControlQuest Auto

GlobalVariable Property BO_MaximumFollowerCount Auto

Faction Property CurrentHirelingFaction Auto

Event OnUpdateGameTime()

;kill the update if the follower isn't waiting anymore

If Self.GetActorRef().GetAv("WaitingforPlayer") == 0

UnRegisterForUpdateGameTime()

Else

; debug.trace(self + "Dismissing the follower because he is waiting and 3 days have passed.")

BO_FollowerControlQuest.DismissFollower(5)

UnRegisterForUpdateGameTime()

EndIf

EndEvent

Event OnUnload()

;if follower unloads while waiting for the player, wait three days then dismiss him.

If Self.GetActorRef().GetAv("WaitingforPlayer") == 1

(GetOwningQuest() as BO_FollowerControlQuestScript).FollowerWait()

EndIf

EndEvent

Event OnCombatStateChanged(Actor akTarget, int aeCombatState)

If (akTarget == Game.GetPlayer())

; debug.trace(self + "Dismissing follower because he is now attacking the player")

(GetOwningQuest() as BO_FollowerControlQuestScript).DismissFollower(0, 0)

EndIf

EndEvent

Event OnDeath(Actor akKiller)

; debug.trace(self + "Clearing the follower because the player killed him.")

BO_MaximumFollowerCount.SetValue(0)

Self.GetActorRef().RemoveFromFaction(CurrentHirelingFaction)

Self.Clear()

EndEvent

BO_FollowerControlQuestScript

Scriptname BO_FollowerControlQuestScript extends Quest

GlobalVariable Property BO_MaximumFollowerCount Auto

ReferenceAlias Property FollowerAlias Auto

Faction Property DismissedFollower Auto

Faction Property CurrentHireling Auto

Message Property FollowerDismissMessage Auto

Message Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding Auto

Message Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions Auto

Message Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale Auto

Message Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale Auto

Message Property FollowerDismissMessageWait Auto

SetHirelingRehire Property HirelingRehireScript Auto

;Property to tell follower to say dismissal line

Int Property iFollowerDismiss Auto Conditional

Function SetFollower(ObjectReference FollowerRef)

actor FollowerActor = FollowerRef as Actor

FollowerActor.RemoveFromFaction(DismissedFollower)

If FollowerActor.GetRelationshipRank(Game.GetPlayer()) &&-60; 3 && FollowerActor.GetRelationshipRank(Game.GetPlayer()) &--#62;= 0

FollowerActor.SetRelationshipRank(Game.GetPlayer(), 3)

EndIf

FollowerActor.SetPlayerTeammate()

;FollowerActor.SetAV("Morality", 0)

FollowerAlias.ForceRefTo(FollowerActor)

BO_MaximumFollowerCount.SetValue(1)

EndFunction

Function FollowerWait()

actor FollowerActor = FollowerAlias.GetActorRef() as Actor

FollowerActor.SetAv("WaitingForPlayer", 1)

;SetObjectiveDisplayed(10, abforce = true)

;follower will wait 3 days

FollowerAlias.RegisterForUpdateGameTime(72)

EndFunction

Function FollowerFollow()

actor FollowerActor = FollowerAlias.GetActorRef() as Actor

FollowerActor.SetAv("WaitingForPlayer", 0)

SetObjectiveDisplayed(10, abdisplayed = false)

EndFunction

Function DismissFollower(Int iMessage = 0, Int iSayLine = 1)

If FollowerAlias && FollowerAlias.GetActorRef().IsDead() == False

If iMessage == 0

FollowerDismissMessage.Show()

ElseIf iMessage == 1

FollowerDismissMessageWedding.Show()

ElseIf iMessage == 2

FollowerDismissMessageCompanions.Show()

ElseIf iMessage == 3

FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale.Show()

ElseIf iMessage == 4

FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale.Show()

ElseIf iMessage == 5

FollowerDismissMessageWait.Show()

Else

;failsafe

FollowerDismissMessage.Show()

EndIf

actor DismissedFollowerActor = FollowerAlias.GetActorRef() as Actor

DismissedFollowerActor.StopCombatAlarm()

DismissedFollowerActor.AddToFaction(DismissedFollower)

DismissedFollowerActor.SetPlayerTeammate(false)

DismissedFollowerActor.RemoveFromFaction(CurrentHireling)

DismissedFollowerActor.SetAV("WaitingForPlayer", 0)

;hireling rehire function

HirelingRehireScript.DismissHireling(DismissedFollowerActor.GetActorBase())

If iSayLine == 1

iFollowerDismiss = 1

DismissedFollowerActor.EvaluatePackage()

;Wait for follower to say line

Utility.Wait(2)

EndIf

FollowerAlias.Clear()

iFollowerDismiss = 0

;don't set count to 0 if Companions have replaced follower

If iMessage == 2

;do nothing

Else

BO_MaximumFollowerCount.SetValue(0)

EndIf

EndIf

EndFunction

Follow me

;BEGIN FRAGMENT CODE - Do not edit anything between this and the end comment

;NEXT FRAGMENT INDEX 1

Scriptname TIF__04028FED Extends TopicInfo Hidden

;BEGIN FRAGMENT Fragment_0

Function Fragment_0(ObjectReference akSpeakerRef)

Actor akSpeaker = akSpeakerRef as Actor

;BEGIN CODE

(BO_FollowerControlQuest as BO_FollowerControlQuestScript).FollowerFollow()

;END CODE

EndFunction

;END FRAGMENT

;END FRAGMENT CODE - Do not edit anything between this and the begin comment

Quest Property Bo_FollowerControlQuest Auto

[skinnytecboy]

Hmm, your script is exactly the same as mine, with the only difference being that I named my follower alias differently (SKQFollowerAlias) but I don't think that would matter in your case.

 

Also I made my follower control quest handle all dialogue (follow, wait, make me toast etc). So that could be an issue. Another thing I did was add Ben's ID and a quest condition (just like you need to do when adding a follower GenericFavorDialogue).

 

If you type" ; " and click compile, it will generate a script. Much easier to add properties first to avoid the moaning compiler that the tutorial mentions.

 

Another silly question; Have you created a relationship between player and follower?

 

 

Admittedly, I am not the cleverest brick in the wall here. There are probably others reading this now, muttering and shaking their heads as they dip their biscuits into their tea, who know what your problem is. I'm no expert, but I hope what little I can offer can help. (we can at least try) :confused: