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soupdragon1234 wrote:

Are kiddies that smart these days to knowingly DDoS a site? Or is it just that as its holidays they're downloading GB's worth of Pron and they end up with something they weren't expecting on their computer, something that adds their PC to a global botnet that is really behind this crap. :ermm:

 

Probably strart getting tech support questions soon "why is my PC internets so sloooooow!"

 

Why thats because your machine groaning under the weight of ProN and botnets is busy DDoS'ing countless sites just now. :pinch:


Ddos isn't something elaborate that requires technical skill like it used to. Script kiddies can download a program from a shady site that allows them to target a host with several or hundreds of machines.
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FurAfterDark wrote: Who would DDoS a modding community? isn't that kinda an oxymoron move? o.o
Madcat221 wrote: Petulant little twerps do it. Particularly ones who wanted to turn this place into their own personal playground but were denied.

If you run across anyone elsewhere on the 'Net that claims they were banned from the Nexus network "for no reason", ask their handle and search that forum to see the "no reason".
FurAfterDark wrote: Well i mean technically taking down the entire site would effect the modders and people just want to download mods more than anyone else so that kinda seems selfish to do that
Setekh79 wrote: Dumb kids with nothing else to do with their lives, that's who.
FurAfterDark wrote: Well if it's DDoSing, aren't those kids technically smart? ;3
krisser143 wrote: @FurAfterDark
No, they just download a dDoS program that uses other already-hacked computers to dDoS


@FurAfterDark, yeah, technically, but those are just book smarts. They do not know anything about the consequences of their actions. Also, I realize I sound like an idiot for saying "book smarts", but it seemed like the right word.
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Thaiauxn wrote:

If you have that kind of tech power and use it to suppress bad people, you're a hero. If you do it for s#*! - what does that make you? When we find you, what should we do to you?

 

I think Ddos attacks and the like are a very good example of why it's bad to let your disenfranchised youth go completely without any direction or available social services. You have to have a moderate income to sustain a botnet. Even just a laptop will do, but it takes time and patience. Anybody willing to go through that level of work would be awesome if they had some direction and a job that needs solving. Find them. Put them to work. Inspire them. Give them a reason to wake up in the morning.

Skyrabbit wrote: Good point, well made.
fallout31961 wrote: Now your talking ! This Damn common-core education system is so into dumbing down the kids, that they actually come up to me now and ask me why are they teaching us so poorly.

This generation of kids really needs what you just stated beyond anything that most realize !
SeedReaper wrote: this is why we need an upvote button for comments on this site.
Cactuar512 wrote: fallout31961, your post is hilariously ironic. You should re-evauate your own intelligence before talking politics or condemning an entire generation.


Actually, he is completely right about the common core. One of the lowest grade tests left half the kids crying in misery because if they clicked a wrong button it led them to an 8th grade test. They would still try to complete it, because they thought they would get in trouble if they didn't, but they had absolutely no idea how to answer the question. In a lot of the tests it was nearly impossible to find many of the places to answer the questions. Even better, there was a question that asked you to find the comma that was in the wrong place, and EVERY SINGLE COMMA was in the wrong place. The spelling and grammar (or, as it was spelled in the test, grammer) made the test look like it was written by a Somalian 14 year old. The tests were actually only suitable for people 1 or 2 grades below the test takers, but the test takers generally had to skip 5-10 percent of the questions because they couldn't figure out where the answer box was, or the correct answer wasn't an option in the multiple choice. Then you could move on to the fact that the common core has been trying to lower the difficulty of all grades, so non-core 3th or 4th grade is the equivalent of common core 5th grade. I could quite understand why a child would ask a teacher why they were being taught so poorly. Schools should be more mentally stimulating, being as around 70% of kids are smarter than 50% of adults.
Yes, that was a long-winded lecture. Edited by jacksin125
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In response to post #27188304. #27188919, #27191199, #27192944, #27193319, #27223279 are all replies on the same post.


Thaiauxn wrote:

If you have that kind of tech power and use it to suppress bad people, you're a hero. If you do it for s#*! - what does that make you? When we find you, what should we do to you?

 

I think Ddos attacks and the like are a very good example of why it's bad to let your disenfranchised youth go completely without any direction or available social services. You have to have a moderate income to sustain a botnet. Even just a laptop will do, but it takes time and patience. Anybody willing to go through that level of work would be awesome if they had some direction and a job that needs solving. Find them. Put them to work. Inspire them. Give them a reason to wake up in the morning.

Skyrabbit wrote: Good point, well made.
fallout31961 wrote: Now your talking ! This Damn common-core education system is so into dumbing down the kids, that they actually come up to me now and ask me why are they teaching us so poorly.

This generation of kids really needs what you just stated beyond anything that most realize !
SeedReaper wrote: this is why we need an upvote button for comments on this site.
Cactuar512 wrote: fallout31961, your post is hilariously ironic. You should re-evauate your own intelligence before talking politics or condemning an entire generation.
jacksin125 wrote: Actually, he is completely right about the common core. One of the lowest grade tests left half the kids crying in misery because if they clicked a wrong button it led them to an 8th grade test. They would still try to complete it, because they thought they would get in trouble if they didn't, but they had absolutely no idea how to answer the question. In a lot of the tests it was nearly impossible to find many of the places to answer the questions. Even better, there was a question that asked you to find the comma that was in the wrong place, and EVERY SINGLE COMMA was in the wrong place. The spelling and grammar (or, as it was spelled in the test, grammer) made the test look like it was written by a Somalian 14 year old. The tests were actually only suitable for people 1 or 2 grades below the test takers, but the test takers generally had to skip 5-10 percent of the questions because they couldn't figure out where the answer box was, or the correct answer wasn't an option in the multiple choice. Then you could move on to the fact that the common core has been trying to lower the difficulty of all grades, so non-core 3th or 4th grade is the equivalent of common core 5th grade. I could quite understand why a child would ask a teacher why they were being taught so poorly. Schools should be more mentally stimulating, being as around 70% of kids are smarter than 50% of adults.
Yes, that was a long-winded lecture.


I agree with fallout31961 and Thaiauxn.

The school system, at least here in the US, is a joke. I'm 27, and I don't remember it being particularly good when I was in it. I remember when I lived in Florida and went to a charter school, that was pretty good, challenging, then we had to move in 12th grade to Virginia. The school was extremely easy, I had to retake the state test and I felt like I was back in middle school. It was on the computer, and heck I was even able to find a way to cheat on it (not that I even needed to). My AP computer science class went from having actual lectures, projects, etc to being just "Here's this book, copy all the code from the book to the IDE and compile it." No lectures, no teaching, just busywork. I knew more than everyone (read: Two people) in that Virginia AP comp-sci class because the only thing they did was copy out of a book. No actual drive to learn the stuff, or expand.

The school system gives you no reason to actually want to go. Yeah some of the stuff you learn is interesting, but for the most part it's not. Most of the time you seem to get teachers who have too many students, not enough time to actually come up with compelling course material, etc. You literally have no other drive, short of whatever you come with, aside from getting grades and passing these stupid state tests. Edited by Coreinsanity
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In response to post #27187839. #27188199, #27190479, #27190754, #27190799, #27194819, #27210794 are all replies on the same post.


FurAfterDark wrote: Who would DDoS a modding community? isn't that kinda an oxymoron move? o.o
Madcat221 wrote: Petulant little twerps do it. Particularly ones who wanted to turn this place into their own personal playground but were denied.

If you run across anyone elsewhere on the 'Net that claims they were banned from the Nexus network "for no reason", ask their handle and search that forum to see the "no reason".
FurAfterDark wrote: Well i mean technically taking down the entire site would effect the modders and people just want to download mods more than anyone else so that kinda seems selfish to do that
Setekh79 wrote: Dumb kids with nothing else to do with their lives, that's who.
FurAfterDark wrote: Well if it's DDoSing, aren't those kids technically smart? ;3
krisser143 wrote: @FurAfterDark
No, they just download a dDoS program that uses other already-hacked computers to dDoS
hammhome wrote: @FurAfterDark, yeah, technically, but those are just book smarts. They do not know anything about the consequences of their actions. Also, I realize I sound like an idiot for saying "book smarts", but it seemed like the right word.


It doesn't so much take smarts to DDoS someone. It takes money. So figure it's folks who are trying to extort money from a site (in this case, probably someone else who hosts with the same provider the Nexus uses was the intended victim, this site just happened to be there). Or someone with some (one assumes ill-gotten) cash to blow to rent the services of a botnet.

The folks who "own" those botnets build them via malware. Some of them doubtless put a fair bit of time, money and effort into compromising thousands of non-secure PCs. Jerks (or sometimes even governments) pay them to take down certain sites. Edited by PoobahGorg
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Logical conclusion is a bunch of angry script kiddies are using a simple program to DDoS the site, probably because they were so stupid they admitted to piracy or some nonsense and thus were banned from the site.

 

Frankly, those people need to get their butts kicked. So hard they never forget the lesson: what you do on the internet is never truly anonomyous so you should treat it like you would real life.

 

Bet they didn't think that nexus could track them and if actual damages were caused (provable damages) Robin could sue to shirt right off that person's back, or their parents.

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diyeath wrote: Logical conclusion is a bunch of angry script kiddies are using a simple program to DDoS the site, probably because they were so stupid they admitted to piracy or some nonsense and thus were banned from the site.

Frankly, those people need to get their butts kicked. So hard they never forget the lesson: what you do on the internet is never truly anonomyous so you should treat it like you would real life.

Bet they didn't think that nexus could track them and if actual damages were caused (provable damages) Robin could sue to shirt right off that person's back, or their parents.


We should teach them not to f*#@ with us just like the Legion did with Nipton.
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