Question about load-order & random CTD [Will pay with a decent steam game for a working fix]

[Murkrow900]

Also " [00:16] Background Loader: Fatal: <Exception: "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" requires master "ReProccer.esp" to be loaded before it.> " According to TES5Edit?

[camaro_69_327]

Sticks nose in....

 

Some things.....are not right..most important Look at Bashed patch in Wrye bash . on right, look at the "masters of the bashed patch" make sure Reproccer is not listed as a master. Then move bashed above Reproccer. Then Rebuild the bashed patch. Should look like this...

Bashed patch

PRE Reproccer

Reproccer

Post Reproccer

 

You have changed the second block in your SSME ini...should remain Default 256.

Why not get rid of SSME and just use SKSE w/SKSE.ini

 

 

Your pic says it all, You overfilled your GPU's VRAM and Skyrim randomly decided what not to show you. Download "Skyrim Performance Monitor" run Skyrim from inside that , Post the Graph or just look to see how high you are filling your GPU.

 

Run ENBBoost and or a full ENB. Use that to Offload RAM into a separate process (ENHost) giving Skyrim an additional 4 GB ram to play with.

 

Lower your Grass setting...you have it at = 20 That's gonna load a crap ton of grass. Try with 40, 60 Yes higher is lower.

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@ Lord G...I have {2) 3GB 580's and i can overfill them at will...lmao Had to actually back off on some settings and texture re-placers, need me a pair of titans"

And same here, no reward needed....having you running smooth IS the reward.

[Murkrow900]

Here's the problem Camaro, I paid a guy to help me with stuff basically that hasn't been working out(although I'm 99% sure he didn't do anything wrong as he's very smart/good with this unlike myself :[ ) . You would be interested in helping me with Teamviewer for payment would you? As this stuff is way out of my reach, having extreme learning difficulties.

 

Best regards, Otto.

 

 

PS, thanks a truckload for the answer ^^

[Murkrow900]

Honestly, I don't know if Wrye is good for me. It's very complicated for someone like me, plus I got no idea what it does really since someone just told me to use it basically.

[madcow12]

What makes LOOT superior to Boss?

LOOT is newer, still in development, but has the same makers as BOSS. BOSS is simpler and is not yet so outdated and the long awaited masterlist updates are happening

And the rotation is LOOT/TES5Edit to find incompatibilities/sort them manually/wrye/sum.jar, right?

Assuming you are using NMM, the loop is

Install mods via NMM -> Run BOSS -> Refresh NMM using the swirl button on the top right while recording which mods need to be cleaned -> Look through your list and manually adjust some positions according to the install instructions of the mod authors->Refresh one more time to register load order -> Load the entire thing through TES5Edit to check that it loads ok -> Exit then load TES5 again this time one by one, the mod that needs to be cleaned and the related master files

Also, can I still keep using SkyRe but just disable the combat/AI mod? And what's SPERG/ACE and how do they work and what makes them stand out and more reliable?

You could but given its such a script heavy game, the suddenly orphaned scripts would be fertile grounds for potential skyrim sorcery. SPERG and ACE don't overhaul the game compeltely, but adjusts factors while keeping the system vanilla. ACE especially is known for good compatibility with other mods, and most people who don't go for overhauls combine several combat mods (DUEL vs Deadly Combat vs That one other thing forgot name + ABT) with ACE and top it off with ASIS (this mod hands out the perks and spells you modded in to NPCs as well) to curtail it to their tastes more.

Also, how does one cut down on using a mod like headtracking/enhanced blood/wet & cold? I love them all and I haven't read about any problems with them before, is there a lite version or?

It's just papyrus can only script so much before it lags out. I was running deadly mutilation with a bunch of others and OBIS which scans a cell ten times every time i relocate and my games were a bunch of 1 hour runs. every now and then it would crash. Now that i've taken deadly mutilation out, and reduced the number of OBIS scans, the scripting is less and hence the system runs a little better, more responsive. Headtracking, EBT, and Wet&Cold you can keep. SkyRe, maybe go for Requiem or do a more modular install as mentioned earlier

On a side note, I would recommend using this to simulate darker nights. Simply load it at the end. CoT just puts a black drape over everything, but with this one you can use them torches or lanterns and the surrounding is darkened but not the light sources, making a more realistic walk in the night. Combined with this and you've got NPCs who come at you with torches.

Now about your load order

In NMM on the plugins tab, on the left you will see two green arrows, a red circle with a line through it, a check mark, then two white thingies. Copy the below into a notepad, save it where you can find it easily, then use the lower one to import the adjusted load order. I went through it, switched it around to the best of my knowledge (mods that i dont use, i dont know but i tried). some mods were turned off because they were redundant. when you load, it will probably say there are missing things. and usually when you get that message on a load, you say no and start fresh because even if you turn it off, there will be traces or remnants of them mods in game. and frankly the save cleaners out there cannot help you, eventually the game will go foo bar.

 

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AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1

AOS2_WAF Patch.esp=1

AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp=1

AOS2_SkyRe Patch.esp=1

FastSit.esp=1

iNeed.esp=1

VariedGuardsNew.esp=1

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[camaro_69_327]

Take things one at a time....

 

Download SPM (Skyrim Performance Monitor) use that to see what your system is doing while playing. this way you can SEE what your changes are doing.

 

Open the Skyrim.ini and change ..

iMinGrassSize=20

to

iMinGrassSize=60

Save and try it out in game.

 

Run BOSS 2.3.0 it gets most of the mods in the correct order. Post your BOSS log , any UNrecognized can be sorted by user rules. In the folder with BOSS is another EXE "BOSSgui.exe" run that to create rules about where to place mods. That way when ever you run Reproccer (sum) and it runs BOSS it wont change your order around.

[Murkrow900]

Hehe might sound stupid but I'm almost getting tears in my eyes reading such quality stuff. Thanks a bunch guys for investing your precious time for some random guy like me hehe, means more than you could think. I will read this a couple of times over as it's pretty hard stuff to take in within a minute or so ^^. I will keep you guys updated, and feel free to continue posting as it's extremely cool for me to read and having to slowly gain an understanding with your help.

 

Best regards, a very appreciative Otto/Cardigan :) <3

[Ball11]

If your current save uses BOSS (load order was done By BOSS)don't switch half way threw to use LOOT it can mess stuff up, the save is loading stuff a way and messing that up could eventually mess the save up.

 

Once ran BOSS make sure you fix the unrecognised plugings it says

They will be after reproccers and bashed patch.

 

For Skyre make sure you have the correct patches

 

Patches in general, http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/48629/?

 

If you use book covers http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50441/?

 

Also make sure you don't have two mods doing the exact same thing.

 

Also that black issue on grass looks like a bad ini problem (with shadows)

 

If you are the person who cannot stand default shadows and ini settings don't do it for you, a enb can fix that, I would try vividian enb it's great and doesn't lose to much on fps just make sure you use the correct edition and use the performance version.

Edited May 25, 2014 by Ball11