False "save corruption" during gameplay

[madpaddy]

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[madpaddy]

Using that list above i no longer seem to be getting the error, the main mods i can remember uninstalling before this new 6 hr save was, frostfall, W&C 2.16beta in favour of W&C 2.15, SkyBirds Compatibility Patch - Creatures-2398-0-9-2 because its not needed any more, Immersive Weapons-27644-1-5, More Potential Followers and Marriageable NPCs (Merged)-6345-1-1, These mods are no longer in my game but have been when i was getting the save corrupt error, so who knows, but atm ive not had the error for 6 hrs.

[Ramagast]

Are you using followers? Did any of them entered a bleedout state or died? Did you use a console during your new playthrough?

Here are three groups of mods based on previously published load orders - those that had the bug.
First group is the likely suspects. Please, tell if you didn't use some of these mods while getting the bug.
Second group is "come on..." group. Mods are too well known and have a great quality control.

Third group is comprised of mods that I either didn't use while getting the bug or used extensively before running into it. They can still be broken by, say, game update or something.

 

Suspects:

- Falskaar
- Travellers Of Skyrim
- Qaxe Questorium
- Helgen Reborn
- Eli_Breezehome
- Forgotten DungeonsSSE
- MoonAndStar_MAS
- dD - Enhanced Blood Main
- VioLens SE
- AKSkyrimUnderground
- Artifacts
- Immersive Patrols II
- Immersive Followers
- Eli_Routa.esp
- notice board
- ForgottenCity
- Map Markers Complete
- Dr_Bandolier
- SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE
- Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
- Whistling Mine
- Relationship Dialogue Overhaul

 

"Come on..." group:

- Book Covers Skyrim
- Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library
- Vivid WeathersSE
- RealisticWaterTwo
- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
- Cutting Room Floor
- Alternate Start - Live Another Life
- Ars Metallica
- Castle Volkihar Rebuilt
- SMIM-SE-Merged-All
- Imperious - Races of Skyrim
- Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package
- Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim
- Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim

 

"Seemed to work fine" group:

- MagicalCollegeOfWinterhold
- Populated Skyrim Legendary
- WheelsOfLull
- HearthfireMultiKid
- mrbs-uniqueloot-se
- Mortal Enemies

[madpaddy]

Im using AFT and have 1 follower atm, i have used the console to setup OBIS, i also have Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul and Travellers Of Skyrim and Dr_Bandolier still in play atm and dont seem to have the bug.

[Ashaman2009]

Some more information from my side on this:

0. I haven't used the console. At least without resaving. (changed the timescale to verify if it just happens after some time but seems to be only connected with fights + looting)

1. Happens often after fights (for me every ~30-60min active exploring). I haven't detected strict pattern (started new game and it happened ~3 times during Lucan's quest in dungeon)

2. Papyrus log doesn't contain any records exactly at the time the game becomes corrupt

3. I usually have 2 or more companions + summoned beast. They just killed a ghost in the mine, I've checked that the game isn't corrupted, looted the corpse and the game instantly became broken.

4. Regarding archivements enabler... I had only its loader left, removed this dll and the issue is still here. Doesn't seem to be the root cause.

Do you guys use skyUI 2.2 ?

Edited January 4, 2017 by Ashaman2009

[madpaddy]

Some more information from my side on this:

0. I haven't used the console. At least without resaving. (changed the timescale to verify if it just happens after some time but seems to be only connected with fights + looting)

1. Happens often after fights (for me every ~30-60min active exploring). I haven't detected strict pattern (started new game and it happened ~3 times during Lucan's quest in dungeon)

2. Papyrus log doesn't contain any records exactly at the time the game becomes corrupt

3. I usually have 2 or more companions + summoned beast. They just killed a ghost in the mine, I've checked that the game isn't corrupted, looted the corpse and the game instantly became broken.

Do you guys use skyUI 2.2 ?

Yeah im using SUI 2.2 and did suspect it, but i still have it installed atm and dont seem to be getting the error atm.

[mtrjagamer]

I use skyUI too. But i think it was already happening before installing it. But i'm not sure.

 

Wich version of Qaxe do you use ? 4 or 5 ? Did you upgrade it ?

 

From the "suspects" list i would point to RDO, Immersive Citizens, maybe Travellers of Skyrim or Qaxe, but who knows...

Edited January 4, 2017 by mtrjagamer

[Ramagast]

I'm not using SkyUI. Used to have 2.2, but removed it while searching for the root cause of the bug. Qaxe is version 5, clean install on a new game.

Madpaddy, looking at the list of mods that I posted above, did you use any of them, but uninstalled before current playthrough? If not, we can seriously trim "suspects" list looking at your current mod list.

[madpaddy]

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
- Cutting Room Floor
- Alternate Start - Live Another Life
- Ars Metallica

SMIM-SE-Merged-All

- Imperious - Races of Skyrim

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul

Dr_Bandolier

I still have all those in my load and so far im not getting the error. I cant say for sure but it would seem they are not the cause. Im pretty sure i havent used any of the rest in those lists other than what ive mentioned.

[Ramagast]

Ok, but did you actually removed some of these mods between the playthroughs?
Did you noticed any mods you never used in that list? I mean, if you didn't use the mod and still had the issue, the mod is probably innocent =)))