CTD on first pc, works fine on my laptop

[Jeromewh]

Hi Guys,

I started playing Skyrim on my laptop but changed over to my desktop rig because of the better performance.
Both pcs use the exact same Skyrim Setup (*.inis, Mods, ...) managed by ModOrganizer.

On my desktop rig, when trying to fast travel to (or walk in the direction of) "Swindler's Den" it ctds (also other locations affected).
On my laptop everything works just fine (but isn't really playable with all the mods, see loadorder at the bottom)

Desktop:
Intel Q9550
6 GB Ram
Nvidia 670 GTX 2GB @ 314.07 WHQL (already tried 310.90)

Notebook
Intel i7 2720QM
8 GB Ram
Nvidia GT 540M 2GB @ 310.90 WHQL

Can anyone give me any hint why my pc is crashing to the desktop from the loading screen?

What I already tried (all this works on the laptop, and fails for the pc):
- Disabling HiRes Texture Pack
- Disabling some other HD stuff
- Running Skyrim throug SBW
- Loading a save at swindlers den (created on the laptop)
- Updating nvidia drivers on the pc (not on the laptop)
and
- Loading Save without any mods (failed of course... on both, laptop and pc)
- and some other stuff I can't remember right now...

I also took a look at some performance measures but nothing special (max ram @70%, max vram @65%, fps alwys over 30)


I already tried papyrus output but couldn't find much
(Loaded a Save in whiterun, fast travel to swindlers den)

[02/26/2013 - 08:26:36PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:36PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:36PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:40PM] Cannot open store for class "TOMK_QF_LockTKStartup_0200182B", missing file?
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:40PM] error: Unable to bind script TOMK_QF_LockTKStartup_0200182B to LockTKStartup (1900182B) because their base types do not match
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:41PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1_npcmentalmodelscript", missing file?
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:41PM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file?
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:41PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1vampireturnscript", missing file?
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:41PM] error: Unable to bind script isSpellKnown to Item 1 in container (000E68A8) because their base types do not match
----> repeats for about 400 lines
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (0002335A) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property RaceList on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property VampireList on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property originalBookName on script isSpellKnown attached to (000DD647) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (00019E05) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property Replacer on script DBPotteryRestore attached to (000BBAF4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property Replacer on script DBPotteryRestore attached to (000BBAF3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] error: Property kuASATUninstallMessage on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (31000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (31000830) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] error: Property kuASATxMCMQ on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (31000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (310094CD) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (0001C23F) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] warning: Property Replacer on script DBPotteryRestore attached to (000CB588) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] VM is freezing...
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:51PM] VM is frozen
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] Reverting game...
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] error: Unable to bind script isSpellKnown to Item 2 in container (000D883B) because their base types do not match
----> repeats for about 400 lines
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (0002335A) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] warning: Property RaceList on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] warning: Property VampireList on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] error: Property kuASATUninstallMessage on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (31000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (31000830) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] error: Property kuASATxMCMQ on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (31000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (310094CD) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] warning: Property originalBookName on script isSpellKnown attached to (000DD647) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] warning: Property Replacer on script DBPotteryRestore attached to (000BBAF4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (00019E05) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] warning: Property Replacer on script DBPotteryRestore attached to (000CB588) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:53PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (0001C23F) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:54PM] warning: Property Replacer on script DBPotteryRestore attached to (000BBAF3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/26/2013 - 08:26:55PM] error: Property DeathContainer on script WIDeadBodyCleanupScript attached to (000D16E1) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (5D018786) is not the right type
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:23PM] Loading game...
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:24PM] VM is thawing...
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scanning for supported plugins...
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] error: File "dawnguard.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 82
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 111
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] error: File "Dragonborn.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 83
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 111
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 84
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 111
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 85
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 111
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 86
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 111
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 87
[CH (2B020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "chquestscript.psc" Line 111
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:27PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scan complete.
[02/26/2013 - 08:27:28PM] [kuASATxMCMQS <kuASATxMCMQ (34000D62)>] INITIALIZED

Loadorder (BOSS managed):

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SPIKE.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Rainbows.esp
BWS.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp
Thundering Shouts.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
Birds.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
Breaking and Entering.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
dbmisc.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
knownspells.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RCRN Pure.esp
morevillageanimals.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
RabbitsPlus.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Destructible_bottles.esp
Auto Unequip Arrows.esp
KaceAutoloot.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
Footprints.esp
kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime MCM.esp
daedric_phelm.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
imp_helm.esp
MIDFollowMeCloser.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
Better Skill and Quest Books Names - BS.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Distant Detail.esp
dynamic fires.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Headtracking.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
More Salt Please.esp
NonEssentialChilds.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
secunda Size x2.0.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
BFSEffects.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
Realistic crime report radius.esp
Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Follower Trap Safety.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
Facelight.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
getSnowy.esp
WATER.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Skyrim.ini

 

[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
uGridsToLoad=5
sIntroSequence=
iLargeIntRefCount=262144
fFlickeringLightDistance=8192
uExterior Cell Buffer=36

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
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fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1

[Audio]
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fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
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[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6

[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa, Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
SInvalidationFile=

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
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f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7
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fDecalLifetime=512.0
fNearDistance=18.0000

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
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[Water]
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[Actor]
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[Camera]
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fOverShoulderCombatPosZ=24.0
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fOverShoulderHorseAddY=-72.0
fOverShoulderHorsePosZ=50.0
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fMouseWheelZoomSpeed=60.0
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[Interface]
fBookOpenTime=200.0

fSafeZoneX=10
fSafeZoneY=10
fSafeZoneXWide=10
fSafeZoneYWide=10
 

 

 

 

SkyrimPrefs.ini

 

[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
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iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
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[Imagespace]
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[Display]
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fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000
fGamma=1.0000
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bTreesReceiveShadows=1
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bFull Screen=1
iSize H=1080
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fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
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iScreenShotIndex=2
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[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=0
bSaveOnWait=0
bSaveOnRest=0
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2

[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000
bShowCompass=1

[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
bMouseAcceleration=1
bUseKinect=0

[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750

[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
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[Clouds]
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[NavMesh]
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[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
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[LOD]
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[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=3

[BlurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[BlurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0

[Water]
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bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
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Any help would really be appreciated

Edited February 26, 2013 by Jeromewh

[IsharaMeradin]

Try reducing the number of mods being loaded up. Your laptop seems to be a better rig than your desktop. I would say that your PC can't handle what you are trying to push thru your laptop. You yourself said that the laptop seems fine but isn't really playable.

 

Trim down the number of mods till you get something that your PC can handle, then use that same setup on your laptop.

[Jeromewh]

Thanks for the fast response!

 

Yeah... I already thougt about that but can't really bring myself to reducing the number of mods.

I don't thing the pc isn't up to the task (everyhtings playable, loading times are low, ...)

Also I'm afraid of corrupting my Save files in the process.

 

For the first 30h - 40h (on the pc) everything was fine, I could visit Swindlers Den (and some other locations giving me problems now).

I also tried creating a clean save (without chaning the number of mods) using http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Troubleshooting#tab=Mods_and_Savegames.

 

Is there any way to get more details why skyrim is crashing?

Edited February 26, 2013 by Jeromewh

[Georgiegril]

Well, personally I would try reducing your graphics settings, they are way up, and you could probably reduce them and barely notice the difference.

 

Here is the thing, if you return everything to default values, and the crashes stop, then you know that it is a matter of your settings needing to be lowered, and you can start pushing them back up until you notice performance problems. If the crashes continue, it may be a mod-related, and then you can start investigating that.

 

Also, if you are trying to copy-paste the ini file between two computers, that might be your problem.

[Jeromewh]

Hi,

 

thank you for your tip.

I backed up my *.inis and created new ones with the launcher (no aa, everyhting on low).

Now I could load the save at swindlers den!!!

 

Then I started investigating where my real problem was.

I again created new inis with the launcher all settings blown to the max!

I still was able to load the save!

 

Then I started comparing my old skyrimprefs.ini with the generated one and changed one parameter at time.

 

This is the faulty parameter I ended up with:

fBlockLevel1Distance=140000.0000

 

Changing this to

fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000

solved my problem!

[Georgiegril]

Nice! Glad you are back up and running!