Fifoo

[Off Topic] Water-cooling is incredibly effective at lowering the temperatures of core system components. Such a cooling system could be a must-have in the (early) future... It's up-to-date for some high-end self-build rigs, especially when it comes on OC and/or SLI. But water-cooling isn’t exactly like a walk in the park, and it demands some time and effort to design one that feet your PC system, the other challenge is to solve putting it together. But we are enthousiast people, don't we? :blink: :happy: For some advice, be aware that removing the genuine cooling rad from a GFX card will cost you the end of the manufacturer's warranty. [On Topic] So, what's about the new Nvidia GTX 480... When I see my high-OC rig with no more than 13 air-cooling fans in my Antec Nine-Hundred case - all together counted, a water-cooling system could be the sine-qua-non solution for an upgrade without cooking my system internals. Lol! Some benchmarks have showned that the Nvidia GTX 480 card will get hot, very hot with 85/95C in full charge and 50C in idle Temp use. Of course the specs have a threshold at 105C - Nvidia says 107C, ouch! :sick: I'll don't mention here the question about using this card neither with a dual-monitor nor in 3D Surround Vision (three multi-monitoring gamming config - only two dual-link DVI connectors per card, you'll need mounting two GTX 480 cards in SLI mode) until Nvidia could solve these Temp issues with better drivers (Beta release), etc... And for passionate overclockers, please be aware that something changed with GTX 480 cards. The Core and Shader frequency are tied together, both will follow automatically based on a predefined ratio and underclocking memory is no longer possible. :ermm: Don't forget that these benchmarks are made in optimal conditions, and in real world usage (actually playing a game, real in game benchmarks) the Temp in a room could easily reach 25/30C in summertime, and even more - these Temp are frequent in my country (France), and I certainly wouldn't buy something that could be an "Only-Winter-Use-Device". Each buyer should compare these results to determine the best choice for compatibility, efficiency, performance and cost. 95% of the test environments are perfect and not a real world scenario, never have been, never will be. So look at these results as the products optimal rating. It's not being unwised to say that we must be patient before buying something new, solutions are coming, it's just a question of time. NVIDIA Solves Multi-Monitor Temp Issue on GeForce GTX 480 GPUs Wait! Nvidia has the solution, wow! Nvidia joke - funny video :laugh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdExkuvGySE&NR=1 Now let's talk about DX11 implementation. Nvidia is half a year late to the market as Ati did it since the HD-5800 and HD-5900 series. With the release of their new Catalyst 10.3 driver, the new driver brings significant performance boosts throughout the Radeon HD-5800 and 5900 series. And happily the same thing will happen for Nvidia with new drivers. What's the difference between Ati and Nvidia. Ati is at her 6th level of generation in Tessellation, but Nvidia seems to be better for DX11 performance with the choice of putting a HW tesselator in each SM (shader cluster)... We have now two choices in distinct architectures between Ati and Nvidia, that's good for our 3D applications, for sure. PhysX... and CUDA. On the compute side of things the GF100 should be impressive, these are nice feature to have. But for gaming experience we must wait 'til we could see something fully implemented, the market is at a larval state for the moment. GeForce GTX 470 & 480 review a link to a complete review about the subject. The author says in his conclusion that the Nvidia GTX 480 is probably the best single Gpu card in the world... :thumbsup: Another alternative... The choice of an XFX HD-5970 – until Nvidia gets back into the ring, this high-end dual-GPU monster is king of the hill. Of course, this beast has a price - and what a price, we are talking about 600/7OO$! Here is the deal: 100/200$ more than a Nvidia GTX 480, and sometimes it's hard to find one on the market, but yes: it's a killer card. Why the choice about XFX brand ? Because their technical support is better and they give you a Lifetime Warranty on the card and not a 2 years limited. See it just as an example here. When it comes to a PC build you should not only focus on a budget, but what your goal is with the build to ensure you get every inch of performance out of your hard earned money. Only two words: common sense! I would never spend money on something unless I know what I am spending it on. Some usefull links. http://www.guru3d.com/ http://www.maximumpc.com/ http://www.google.com/ http://www.tomshardware.com/us/ http://www.anandtech.com/ http://www.bit-tech.net/ http://www.frostytech.com/ http://www.hwbot.org/benchmarking.do http://www.theraptorpit.com/forum/index.php http://www.overclock.net/ http://www.overclockersclub.com/ http://www.overclockers.com/ http://www.madshrimps.be/ http://www.tigerdirect.com/ http://www.newegg.com/ http://www.pricewatch.com/ http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php http://www.frozencpu.com/ http://www.petrastechshop.com/ http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ Sources and credits: guru3d.com - maximumpc.com - legitreviews.com Sorry for the long post and thanks for having read it 'til the end. :sweat: - Fifoo.

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Charlotte Gainsbourg's song "5:55" :happy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEEsdzgBrCA

@ginnyfizz : hmm... an other level of what we - the so called "human beings" - are capable in such ugly things. ... funny to see that nobody has given yet a mention on what's really goes on with all that stuff, something that makes a big difference between "animals" and us, "human beings". Do you all really think it's intelligence ? Or instinct ? Maybe, but it's not the most important in my opinion : what do you think about the biggest rule that makes our civilization so "brilliant", and in some way leads our way of life ? Did you ever heard about "business" and the "king money" ? A good example here, just for staying on topic, as we could find plenty of them : Too many people are taking profit with contraband animals, stereotyped needs and all the in thing... without to consider what is dangerous or not, or without thinking about dramatical consequencies for humans - and animals - on both sides. Those people are condemnable ! "Our earth relies on a balance in which every being has a role to play and exists only through the existence of an other being. A settled fragil harmony that is easily shattered." - Yann Arthus-Bertrand.

Emerging from chrysalis, a beautiful butterfly came to light and flew away amongst flowers... I heartily wish we could see you here again, Sweet Lady :closedeyes:

Ban Harabec Weathers 'cos you're too-good :biggrin:

A good one I've found on the net ;D "OH NO, OH GOD, THE CALENDAR ON MY WALL IS RUNNING OUT OF DAYS! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE... ... Oh wait, I could just get a new calendar."

Well, this is a good reason for me too (Lolol), "twice-over" ban for Pronam ;D

Good point. I agree and kudos to you both. @ stars2heaven, we can pursue with this golden rule, what's freedom: your freedom ends where other's freedom begins, and this apply and meet to all life's requirement. I would say that in our today's world we are putting too much regulating systems, and too much laws kill the law, of course we may need some of them because we are living in society, but the problem is that many person yet wanted to find the responsible of a problem without to remedy the causing. I sincerely think that putting to much licensing don't resolve the heart of the problem... here about parenting, by licensing you put a limit without solving on what's really going on: the parental responsability. It's like an ill health person, you give medications to cure him/her from disease, but without to remedy the cause of his/her illness. That's why licensing is inappropriate for parenting. We have to meditate upon our society models and their drifts: poverty, precarity, quality of life, education, and so on... instead of trying to find a so-called solution that couldn't really match.

when you reach the link http://2012-countdown.webs.com/ and you put the mouse pointer on the countdown you'll find "copy me" and some options for copying it and embeding, but when I tried to copy it in the sig it won't work, anyone has the solution?

;D ... I love your idea of a countdown and wish that it wont overburden cardiologists with extra work when reaching at 0000:00:00:00. :mad: ... and sincerely hope that any charlatan of all sort never make profit by people's fear and credulity. This said, we have to go when it's time anyway and just havin' fun for what we are: simply human.

To be honnest, having a deferment for Art School studies, then been stated exempt for family support reason 3 month before my incorporation date, and have to find a job.

Banning Ancient Aeon as usual :whistling:

I better understand now the way you put your argumentation on and I esteem your point of view... in theory that may sound pretty good but in practice... it's an other world. Let me explain here what I mean by a quite simple example upon regulating and endorsing licensing. As far as we know, being regulated and licensed don't make you being someone well qualified for doing things by a good way in real time. In theory it may sounds good for you, but in practice, sorry, it won't for the most of time. See a new licensed car driver, his/her licensed status don't make him/her a good driver by mostly ways. It goes the same for the others drivers too. Only the real capacity gaining by your own experience or by improvement training course could make you a good/better driver, and under the limit of your own capacity to develop your skills, and we may find plenty of other examples in our everyday life by many ways. This is the same thing for parenting: by gaining your own capacity for doing so in a good way and by learning. Then, we must be aware of the pernicious side of such a regulating system. Why, will you ask me... Simply because by not licensing someone you will almost take down any chance for him/her to grow in mind and to gain the capacity of leading children by a better way, and this would be disrespectful and unfair if you're not taking care about. You will misrepresent the beautifulest thing you could offer to a man or a woman: the chance to evolve. Any self-respecting man would pay attention on this. I shall conclude here by this case: what are you doing for others couples like lesbians, gays and trans-genders, haven't they the same chances as others to give their love to a child... :smile:

I'm thinking it as the mall. ;D ... or as big as a great theme park, imagine our heads when we're trying to drink our cocktail in the super roller coaster looping (Lol)

... Lovely X-Mas... What do you think about a lovely christmas family assembly with all of yours and good friends you cherish the most, for having a big great party in an unusual and beautiful gathering place... such a memorable moment would be wonderful to share. You may say: wow, this would cost a lot, but it's a great idea, don't you think... In facts, isn't christmas time that particuliar moment intended to cherish yours and share love, this would be the greatest gift to anyone... :smile:

Aubrey, a wonderfull song from Bread a 1970s rock and roll band from Los Angeles, California. I like the feeling this song expresses, it says so much about Love... Bread - Aubrey

It's a serious question that give us to do some soul-searching about relationship between family environment and parenting, of course it's a shame when parents seemed to have poor competences for raising their children and doing it right... ...but who has the rights for determining the true good model of parenting, and who have the capacity to put those good rules in real cases, who could determine to whom it may concern and would give a selection of experts, psychiatrists, "headshrinkers" for doing so through licensing, a selection of jurists, lawyers, legal practitioners, or judges... be careful of whom you trust or put trust in, depending on what political country you live or not... ...could you simply imagine the results about giving licenses or not, you may have perhaps 50% of declared good licensed parents and 30% bad parents with others 20% of people that even don't want to have kids because of that licensing test, it's just an example, the reversal may be true if the licensing setting levels were on high... a real mentally and physically tragedy for those who couldn't have their licenses... ...what sort of future would you give to those splitted parents and eventualy adopted children in all the world, are you really sure they would even all accept this fact... how much of them do you think they may fall in delinquency... IMO this may be absolutely against ethics and democracy basis, and certainly could tend in negative impacts for human demography with a loss of birthrate... perhaps could we find an another solution for having children best interests at heart, just giving parents a little good guidance may help... Nevertheless, stars2heaven, your topic have the merit to point up such important questions and we must never forget the fact that the greatest respect is due to the child, considering this as a personal statement. Fifoo.

I give you the white card for doing so my friend, be careful at landing (Lol) too late. Anyone here wants to be doctor?? Hurry up... EMERGENCY! name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>&rel=1"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355">

I give you the white card for doing so my friend, be careful at landing (Lol)

Please, Pronam, let me ban you just for the pleasure of it , hehe :thanks:

... if Nexus could be a town, I would love to go on leave there... what do you think about such a picturing, you all could find here plenty of cool and beautiful places... :biggrin: - a great port for all the welcomed newbies - a museum and university for all the community modders - a great druids garden behind the cascades for all who loves poetry (with a special place for a some Little Fairy) - a beautiful dome for Dark0ne - a sanctuary for buddah's (official old fart) meditation - a big temple for LHammonds and AlienSlof, bben46 and all the other admins and moderators I haven't named here (forgive me) - a beacon for calliton, the protector and lighthouse keeper (why not) - a big jacuzzi for Harabec Weathers and Dezi, just near the cascades (on right side) - plenty of beautiful islands with sandbeaches for katashy's caravan as well - be sure you'll find there your most awesome house in history dear Birii... - any places here would be suitable for wasder (Lol)... - oh... and we must think about to plan a landing zone for antonkr :whistling: I would love to be a healer or first aid worker for not leaving aside my job in real life, hehe... (credit to Peter Lee, Art designer, http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/artwork.xml#59)