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Hi everyone -- I decided to start from scratch. I cleared out my Data folder, reinstalled skyrim, and decided I wanted to try SkyRe. I followed the seemingly 9,000 step process to install SkyRe and it's 58 dependent mods. Hopefully I didn't forget step 378, which is spinning around in a circle 6 times countercockwise. Anyway, snark aside, I *think* I did it right, with the help of Gopher's video and the SkyRe description for the non-dawnguard version. However, I get a nice CTD right after I launch the game. Now, almost all the mods I've running besides SkyRe (and crew) I've had before all at once with no issues. I guess my question is, does anyone see anything obvious? Is there a relatively simple way to tell if I have in fact bollocksed up my SkyRe install? Here is my mod list at present: Skyrim.esm Update.esm HearthFires.esm Omegared99-Compilation.esm SPIKE.esm Vigilant of Stendarr Quests Master.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp BardSoundsMalukah.esp Clanking Armor.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Economics of Skyrim.esp AThievesTreasure.esp Dead Body Collision.esp DungeonQuestAwareness.esp FullyEquippedBlacksmiths.esp GiveADogAHome.esp JK Crafting Breakdown.esp moredragonloot.esp Owned.esp moreloot.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Convenient Horses.esp IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp SkyUI.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp HBetterBows.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp LeftHandRings.esp Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Lock Overhaul.esp BreezehomeEnchanter.esp Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp SkyrimChimneys.esp Vigilant of Stendarr Quests.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp FSS-No pause between lines.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Immersive Weapons.esp JM_BetterAlchemySatchel.esp Merchants Reply Only With Take A Look.esp More Salt Please.esp OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Quieter_Dungeons.esp Quieter_Winds.esp SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp ShoutCD.esp Realistic crime report radius.esp Locational Damage.esp ArcheryDummyXP.esp ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp SkyRe_Main.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp SkyRe_Lighting.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp SkyRe_Plugin_BetterBows_1.4.1.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ESPv1_1nondependent.esp 3DNPC.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp SkyRe_Races.esp getSnowy.esp WATER.esp WATER Plants.esp RND_Water-Patch.esp Unmarked Places - Dragon Mounds.esp Unmarked Places - Shrines.esp Unmarked Places - Player Homes.esp DragonSoulConverter.esp Lightweighter including Better Sorting.esp ShiverTwitch's Labeled Mines.esp BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp ReProccer.esp ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp

I'm happy to report that I think I have it figured -- it seems to have been Bluecreek Estate. I tried going through and systematically disabling mods, and testing. When that mod is gone, I don't get the CTD. So, tentatively, extra knock on wood, I think I'm good now.

Well, I trimmed my mod list down a decent amount. It's down to this: Skyrim.esm Update.esm HearthFires.esm Nchuzzrezar.esm Omegared99-Compilation.esm Ranger Ridge.esm SPIKE.esm Vigilant of Stendarr Quests Master.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Morning Fogs.esp BardSoundsMalukah.esp Clanking Armor.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Economics of Skyrim.esp AThievesTreasure.esp Birdsofskyrim.esp Dead Body Collision.esp DungeonQuestAwareness.esp FullyEquippedBlacksmiths.esp GiveADogAHome.esp JK Crafting Breakdown.esp knownspells.esp Owned.esp RWL Option - 3x Giant toes.esp Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp moreloot.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp two_handed_rebalance.esp SkyUI.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp HBetterBows.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp LeftHandRings.esp Northborn Fur Hoods.esp Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp Bluecreek Estate.esp BreezehomeEnchanter.esp Candle Pond Ranch.esp Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp EMHighviewCottage.esp LimbwoodManor.esp Nchuzzrezar.esp Ranger Ridge.esp RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp Vigilant of Stendarr Quests.esp Work a Steady Job as a Blacksmith.esp Binocular Vision For NPCs while Sneaking.esp ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v1.0.esp FasterArrows.esp FSS-No pause between lines.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Immersive Weapons.esp JM_BetterAlchemySatchel.esp Merchants Reply Only With Take A Look.esp More Salt Please.esp OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Proper Aiming.esp Quieter_Dungeons.esp Quieter_Winds.esp Skyrim bigger trees.esp SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Hunting in Skyrim.esp Populated Cities 2.esp Realistic crime report radius.esp ArcheryDummyXP.esp ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp 3DNPC.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp Height Adjusted Races v4.esp getSnowy.esp WATER.esp WATER Plants.esp Unmarked Places - Shrines.esp Unmarked Places - Dragon Mounds.esp Unmarked Places - Player Homes.esp RWL_Bleedout_Perks.esp Woodcutter's Axe and Mining Pick Weight Reduction.esp Lightweighter including Better Sorting.esp FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp TRO_BasicNeeds.esp TRO_BasicNeeds_WATERPatch.esp Most of the mods I thought could be the culprit seem to not have been. I got rid of some of the player abodes -- a lot of those always seem kind of dodgy. Trimmed the fat in other ways as well; I had 3 mods that did things to grass. Now I have one, near as I can tell. I only have 1 WIC mod active, and 1 faster arrows. But no matter what, I keep getting that CTD outside of the helgen cave area. Very annoying. Any other comments or suggestions, folks?

Hi, thanks for the comments -- you know, I didn't even know I had run your your lives on there. I don't remember putting that one in! If I can't remember installing it, it probably isn't too important. So yeah, point taken. I need to look through the list and just weed out some things I could live without. I shouldn't have 5 different versions of Faster Arrow... I'll need to look at that. It should just be the one. Also didn't notice that one, so thanks. As far as clean saves and scripts are concerned, yeah. I've been testing removing scripty stuff by using a clean save, starting a new game and a new save entirely in most cases, so I'm on top of that at least. So I'll weed through that list and hopefully stuff will start working. Have a good one.

Well, I tried to fight this conclusion for a while, but I decided I ought to try to remove Live another Life and see if that made a difference. At first, everything seemed to be working great, and I was sad, because that's a great mod. However, with a clean save from the beginning, no alternate life at all, it still crashed at the same spot outside the Helgen cave. That makes me feel good about Live another Life, but perplexed as to what is causing the CTD. Thoughts, anyone?

Morning gentles, I've gotten some good advice before on these boards with various problems I've had in the past, so hopefully that trend will continue! :) Here's the situation: Recently started clean, deleted all local files, etc., all that jazz. No saved games, no nothing. Downloaded a bunch of mods. After sorting out a few apparnent conflicts, I thought I had a stable build. Unfortunately, I was incorrect. First of all, here's my list of current active mods: GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm Update.esm HearthFires.esm Nchuzzrezar.esm Omegared99-Compilation.esm Ranger Ridge.esm SPIKE.esm Vigilant of Stendarr Quests Master.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Morning Fogs.esp BardSoundsMalukah.esp Clanking Armor.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp LIAT - Sounds.esp Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp AThievesTreasure.esp Birdsofskyrim.esp DungeonQuestAwareness.esp FullyEquippedBlacksmiths.esp GiveADogAHome.esp JK Crafting Breakdown.esp knownspells.esp LIAT - NPCs.esp More_Saddles.esp moredragonloot.esp Owned.esp RWL Option - 3x Giant toes.esp Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp moreloot.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp two_handed_rebalance.esp SkyUI.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp HBetterBows.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp LeftHandRings.esp Northborn Fur Hoods.esp Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp AutumnLodge(FemaleMannequin).esp AutumnLodge(MaleMannequin).esp Bluecreek Estate.esp BreezehomeEnchanter.esp Candle Pond Ranch.esp Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp Forgotten Windmill.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp EMHighviewCottage.esp LimbwoodManor.esp Nchuzzrezar.esp Pinewoods Cottage.esp Ranger Ridge.esp RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp Run For Your Lives.esp thereserve.esp Vigilant of Stendarr Quests.esp Work a Steady Job as a Blacksmith.esp KDC - kevinsterable - Deadly Stronger Poisons.esp Binocular Vision For NPCs while Sneaking.esp ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v1.0.esp FasterArrows.esp FasterArrows75.esp FasterArrows50.esp FasterArrows100.esp FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp FSS-No pause between lines.esp GloriousGrass.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Immersive Weapons.esp JM_BetterAlchemySatchel.esp Merchants Reply Only With Take A Look.esp More Salt Please.esp OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Proper Aiming.esp Quieter_Dungeons.esp Quieter_Winds.esp Skyrim bigger trees.esp SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Hunting in Skyrim.esp Populated Cities 2.esp Realistic crime report radius.esp ArcheryDummyXP.esp ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp ESPv1_1nondependent.esp 3DNPC.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Height Adjusted Races v4.esp rcrnShaders.esp getSnowy.esp WATER.esp WATER Plants.esp Unmarked Places - Shrines.esp Unmarked Places - Dragon Mounds.esp Unmarked Places - Player Homes.esp AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp RWL_Bleedout_Perks.esp Urge - Lighter Dragon Bones And Scales.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Woodcutter's Axe and Mining Pick Weight Reduction.esp Lightweighter including Better Sorting.esp RichMerchants.esp Here's what's happening. After I exit the cave near Helgen with the imperial dude in tow (sorry Stormcloaks, this time ...) I'll run down the path towards riverwood. As soon as I move about 30 yards down the hill I get a CTD. However, if I move in a different direction, like back up the hill towards Helgen, it seems to not crash. So it seems like there is some sort of invisible barrier that is causing the crash when I cross it. That's speculation though, of course. Here's what I've done: I've used BOSS to arrange my mods, and cleaned all dirty edits in all of them with TESVedits. I set up a papyrus log, and the first time I rolled a character, this situation occured. My papyrus log stated that my Skyrim Economics mod was last running before the CTD, so I assumed that was the culprit and removed it. It still happened, though. So I figured I had a jacked up save and just started a new character. But the CTD at that same place still occured, with the economics mod completely removed AND a clean save, so I know it's not that. Also, interestingly, when I'm in game even if I dink around for a minute before triggering the CTD, I have no new papyrus log generated. So I guess that means no scripts were running during that time? Anyway, if anyone has any thoughts or comments I'd greatly appreciate them! Thanks in advance.

Well, after updating all my mods, re-using BOSS, utilizing Tes5Edit, and walking in a circle around my computer 3 times counter-clockwise I seem to be down to only the occasional crash. Again, not uncommon for Skyrim. It's at a level I can pretty much live with, and all the mods I care about I still have. I do have one minor issue that is annoying. I'm not sure if I just hadn't noticed it before or if it is new -- a dialogue related thing. Sometimes, audio dialogue will clip slightly, and the lip sync will be a little off. Probably unrelated but still dialogue related is anytime I encounter an unvoiced NPC (due to Interesting NPCs, no doubt) the dialogue often skips through very quickly, as if I'm holding down enter or something, but even faster. Not sure if anyone has any thoughts on those, aside from maybe picking up the voiced npc only version of Interesting NPCs. Aside from that, I'm about ready to close this particular case. Thanks for your help folks!

Thanks for the reply. BOSS is cool with my loadout, no unresolved incompatibilities detected. No, I have not used tes5edit, I will give that a whirl. I'm not sure what you mean regarding the third item, though I will say that I tried to put some thought into which of my mods alter vanilla textures so as to avoid compatability issues (not saying I did that perfectly though.)

Lol. Okay, I finally managed to pull my self away from Riders of Rohan long enough to play a bit more Skyrim. I got it to crash again, sort of. It recovered after I alt tabbed enough, but I took a look at my log and it is chock full of craziness. I'll go ahead and post it, see what you think. 0/25/2012 - 10:46:02PM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [10/25/2012 - 10:46:02PM] error: Native function RegisterForKey in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound. [10/25/2012 - 10:46:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromKey in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound. [10/25/2012 - 10:46:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromAllKeys in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound. [10/25/2012 - 10:46:02PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms) [10/25/2012 - 10:46:02PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [10/25/2012 - 10:46:16PM] Cannot open store for class "PF_MarkarthJeerahNurWarrenId_040095E0", missing file? [10/25/2012 - 10:46:16PM] error: Unable to bind script PF_MarkarthJeerahNurWarrenId_040095E0 to (440095E0) because their base types do not match [10/25/2012 - 10:46:16PM] error: Unable to bind script TIF__01001D9D to DialogueFollowerSabretooth (48001D9A) because their base types do not match [10/25/2012 - 10:46:16PM] error: Unable to bind script TIF__01002873 to DialogueFollowerSabretooth (48001D9A) because their base types do not match [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Unable to bind script AnvilDencheckjusticar to alias Justicar on quest AnvilDenQuest (0601ED3C) because their base types do not match [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Property Machine on script sts_AliasLexiconOverchargeStandScript attached to alias RuneStand on quest MT_LexQ (07026AEB) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (9) on <NULL quest> (07026AEB) is not the right type [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Property backupAlias on script SwapAliasOnDeath attached to alias Innkeeper on quest DialogueFalkreath (0004D78E) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (15) on <NULL quest> (0004D78E) is not the right type [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Property backupAlias on script SwapAliasOnDeath attached to alias Tavernkeeper on quest DialogueDragonBridge (000212AB) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (13) on <NULL quest> (000212AB) is not the right type [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Unable to bind script defaultSetStageOnDeath to alias DarRakki on quest DarRakkiQuest (44044B38) because their base types do not match [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Unable to bind script defaultSetStageOnDeath to alias Droid on quest DialogueTheRelic (44044B3C) because their base types do not match [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Property ball_3 on script LightingBallController attached to (28017AD6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (2801A1BB) is not the right type [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Property pFollowerAlias on script dialoguefollowerscript attached to DialogueFollowerSabretooth (48001D9A) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (0) on <NULL quest> (48001D9A) is not the right type [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Property HirelingRehireScript on script dialoguefollowerscript attached to DialogueFollowerSabretooth (48001D9A) cannot be bound because DialogueFollowerSabretooth (48001D9A) is not the right type [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] warning: Property DialogueFollowerSabretooth on script Setscalesabretooth attached to (48001DA5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] warning: Property traveltostonesabretooth on script Setscalesabretooth attached to (48001DA5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] warning: Property markerToPlace on script PortableCampsitePLCR attached to Item 3 in container (1B001D9F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] APOCALYPSE: Legacy Spell Deletion Watchdog script started. [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] [byohhousescript <BYOHHouseHjaalmarch (0200BE09)>]OnInit [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] [byohhousescript <BYOHHousePale (02010BEE)>]OnInit [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] [byohhousescript <BYOHHouseFalkreath (0200305E)>]OnInit [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0aDwQuestUpdate.OnInit() - "a0aDwQuestUpdate.psc" Line 7 [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0aDwQuestUpdate.OnInit() - "a0aDwQuestUpdate.psc" Line 7 [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0aDwQuestUpdate.OnInit() - "a0aDwQuestUpdate.psc" Line 7 [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0aDwQuestUpdate.OnInit() - "a0aDwQuestUpdate.psc" Line 7 [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0aDwQuestUpdate.OnInit() - "a0aDwQuestUpdate.psc" Line 7 [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0aDwQuestUpdate.OnInit() - "a0aDwQuestUpdate.psc" Line 7 [10/25/2012 - 10:46:25PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [a0aDwQuest (15001DB3)].a0adwquestscript.TransferBotArray() - "a0aDwQuestScript.psc" Line 174 [a0aDwQuest I'll spare you the whole thing ... that's pretty representative. Those repeating errors go on for a long time, stop, some more semi-sensical ones and then a huge block of the same again. I don't recognize any of that stuff, though I do see a bit about some follower stuff and my sabertooth mod. I can certainly disable that one at least.

Well, I started a new game a couple of times, only for it to crash after I finished making my character. So I decided to turn on that papyrus log thing. Now that the log is on, naturally, I can't get the damn thing to crash. Everything runs fine, and it just won't die on me. So apparently I must have put in the Magic Talisman = 1 line in my .ini file along with the other papyrus log lines of code. As I continue to play, I'll keep an eye on it. I'm sure it's normal crashtastic behaviour will start again soon.

Hey guys (and/or gals), and thanks for the ideas. My combat thing seems to be okay ... I just ran all the way to winterhold and a few saves/loads later I was good. That particular issue has not reoccurred since. However, the intermittent crashes have. Disabling Alternate Start would suck big time because that's a sweet mod. I hear what you are saying ... I'll try that as a last resort. I did actually get rid of Reneer's Crime mod, because I noticed I already have a couple of mods that potentially do similar things with stealth mechanics and so forth. That may have been part of the issue; crashes are still frequent but perhaps not quite as bad. It's playable to near-playable. I did not know about the papyrus log thing ... I will try to set that up and give that a whirl and see what that shows as a next step. I'll let you all know the resolution of that. Thanks again.

Interesting... I now appear to be stuck in combat. I can't mine ore, I can't engage a cart driver, etc. Reloads don't seem to fix it.

Hi folks, I have numerous mods installed, and before I start going through them one at a time, I wanted to post my list and see if any of the more experienced folks see any conflicts or potential issues. So, the game as it currently stands mostly works. I can run it, load a game, start a game, everything seems to be functioning pretty much correctly, except I get intermittent occasional hang-ups. They don't seem to be triggered by a specific event; the happen at seemingly random intervals, but when they occur the screen freezes, whatever audio is playing loops, and it's a hard lock-up: I have to kill the process and re-launch the game to fix. It would honestly be ignorable (the sun rises each day, skyrim crashes occasionally) if they weren't so frequent. Here is my current active mod list. I used BOSS to sort them, but otherwise haven't tweaked them. I know RCRN says it needs to be loaded last -- I've done it that way and it doesn't seem to make a difference. I use Nexus Mod Manager and launch the game through the SKSE executable. Skyrim.esm Update.esm HearthFires.esm SPIKE.esm Deus Mons.esm Lanters of Skyrim - All in One Main.esm moonpath.esm SleepingTreeSanctuary.esm MTAutoStorage.esm Ambience Music Overhaul - with vanilla music.esm hillside.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp BabettesFeastBalanced.esp Craftable Soulstoneswithforge.esp DragonSoulsToPerks.esp DwemerCertified.esp JK Crafting Breakdown.esp KillThemGenerals.esp Krisan's Children.esp Lanters of Skyrim - All in One- RCRN Classic.esp moredragonloot.esp Portable Campsite Lite.esp Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp tGBoA-4_volumes.esp Convenient Horses.esp 1nivWICCLoaks.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp Harvest Overhaul.esp Harvest OverhaulCreatures.esp Castle Strunmah.esp DeusMons_WithNPCs.esp aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp moonpath_questdata.esp Pinewoods Cottage.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Binocular Vision for NPCs while Sneaking.esp BurntCorpse.esp ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v 1.0.esp FasterArrows.esp GuardDialogueOverhaul.esp More Salt Please.esp NeutralHjerim.esp NoHelmetsRequired.esp RichMerchants.esp dD-EnhancedBloodMain.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuinsExterior.esp UniqueTaverns.esp dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force -Reduced.esp TRO_BasicNeeds.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 5SecondShadowWarrior.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp AlchemyOrganization.esp Eld-combinePotions.esp Realistic crime report radius.esp ReneersCrimeOverhaul.esp Sneal Tools.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 3DNPC.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Slightly REduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp Sabertooth.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Heigh Adjusted Races v4.esp rcrnShaders.esp WATER.esp TRO_BasicNeeds_WaterPatch.esp Ambience Music Overhaul - Combat - with vanilla music.esp Ambience Music Overhaul - Interiors and Specail - with vanilla music.esp hillside0_3.esp lighterdbs.esp Also, I've having a moron moment -- I typed those all out manually, but I know there is some sort of way for me to copy and paste them to avoid a half hour of data entry, lol. Can anyone remind me of what the best way is to post a mod list? Thanks for your time folks.

That did it. Thanks man.

Good Evening all, Thanks in advance. Every time I have a problem, some one usually has something helpful to say. I'm running an assortment of mods, and had a seemingly stable build going where everything was rolling along okay. I decided to grab a couple of additional mods along with the 2k texture pack mods. Then I started having issues. I removed the HD texture DLC, installed 2k and when I start the game, the some of the textures for the cart are missing, as well as a bunch of helgen wall textures. After I validated my game cache files and re-got the HD DLC, I enabled that and the 2k. Still same missing textures. So I disabled the 2k texture pack, figuring I'd just leave on the HD DLC, better than nothing, etc. Unfortunately, those same textures are still missing. No matter what I try I can't seem to get those cart textures and goodness knows whatever else to show up. Any thoughts/suggestions? I've been playing with a couple of ENB clients ... I tried running the game without any ENB, same thing. I tried disabling another mod I just got, SkyUI, and nothing. But those don't do anything with textures anyway to my knowledge.

Damn. Welp, I guess it's back to the drawing board then. At least I have a saved game I can use to test now. I'm sure if I removed all my mods, the problem would be solved (most likely), but obviously that would kind of defeat the purpose. Hopefully I'll get lucky and remove the mod that's causing the trouble before I've taken away too many.

Gentlemen (and Ladies): I recently performed a clean install of Skyrim. (i.e., all folders and files removed, including all old saved games, ini files, and mods.) I selected a fairly lengthy list of mods I wanted, downloaded them, and began the process of making Skyrim work. After spending hours removing mods, replacing mods, tweaking ini files, etc, I got a configuration that would stably launch Skyrim, load all the textures properly, etc. Everything appeared to be working appropriately. Then I ran into a strange (script?) issue early in the game. In Helgen, I followed Ralof into the keep, and we have to escape, etc. Well, we jumped the imperials and took their key, opened the door, and Ralof walks into the hallway and says "Great, this way!" or some such. He then stays there, and never proceeds down the hall. I can't seem to trigger him to get his ass in gear. I do have mods that I feel like could/do alter npc behaviour, but I removed the most likely culprit (a follower mod) with no results. Here is my current list of active mods, in the load order specified by BOSS (it altered my load order slightly, but still having the same issue): Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm Active moonpath.esm Active HighResTexturePack01.esp Active HighResTexturePack02.esp Active Shadow Striping Fix.esp Active Realistic Lighting.esp Active Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp Active Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp Active Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active craftablelockpicks.esp Active Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active JewelCraft.esp Active KillThemGenerals.esp Active Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities.esp Active Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff.esp Active Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active People Have Torches.esp Active Portable Campsite Lite.esp Active SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Active BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Active 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp Active EinherjarArmor.esp Active WarchiefArmor.esp Active BreezehomeRenovation.esp Active EMHighviewCottage.esp Active moonpath_questdata.esp Active Pinewoods Cottage.esp Active Proudspire.esp Active Quest_AndTheRealmsOfDaedra.esp Quest_NoMercy.esp The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp Active Whiterun Ferns.esp Active AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp Active FasterArrows50.esp FasterArrows100.esp FasterArrows75.esp FasterArrows.esp Active No Helmets Required.esp Active quest_seaofghosts.esp WATER.esp Active WATER - Get Wet.esp Active RichMerchants.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} VariedGuards.esp Active TRO_BasicNeeds.esp Active TRO_BasicNeeds_WATERPatch.esp Active SpellSneak.esp Active AlchemyOrganization.esp Active Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active Quest_TheBiggerTheyAre.esp moveitLWT.esp Active Note: Use only one moveit esp Height Adjusted Races.esp Active −Unrecognised Plugins Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. theFlicker.esp Active longercandlelight2min.esp Active Western Watchtower Rebuilt.esp Active sanctuarycleanup.esp Active Any ideas/thoughts on what could be the culprit? It's pretty annoying to have a stable mod load only to find game-breaking npc glitches! :P Thanks in advance.

Well, I gave that a shot. No change, unfortunately. Worth a shot though, thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestion man. However, I don't have the lines you cite. [MapMenu] uLockedObjectMapLOD=8 fMapWorldMaxHeight=150000.0000 fMapWorldMinHeight=1500.0000 fMapWorldZoomSpeed=0.2000 The above is what's under MapMenu. I have a mod that overlays roads onto the map and does a few other things, but I've had it for a while and it's been stable. Any other bad config settings you could suggest for me to look at that maybe the mods I installed and removed left behind?

Gentlemen (and/or ladies): I recently downloaded a few additional mods from Steam. After installation, I started up skyrim and when I attempt to load a saved game, I get taken to a loading screen, and right where the game "bites" so to speak where it would normally pop me in it remains stuck in the loading screen. I removed each of the new mods one at a time, trying to see which one was causing my problem, but got the same result every time. In the end, I removed all of the new mods I had downloaded since my last stable configuration. The problem is, I still have the same issue I can't load a saved game, even though I have the exact same mod configuration that worked before. I tried updating my mods, playing with load order ,etc., but nothing. I even rebooted and verified cache, all that good stuff. I really don't want to kill ALL of my mods and try to load each one one at a time, because there are a lot, and again, the mods I have now worked previously. Any ideas, before I try that?