[Day 1 patches, fixes, cure for the slowness and NMM temporarily down]

In response to post #10418248.

Are you ordering the proverbial turd-sandwich?

[Transparent Plants?]

Not sure if this is thread necromancy, but I've got this EXACT same issue for the first time since I installed the game when it first released. I have absolutely no clue on how to fix it, I've attempted regenerating my SkyrimPrefs.ini, tweaking a few settings within the .ini, and so many other things including multiple google searches to no avail.

 

This issue started directly after verifying integrity of game cache with steam. 10 files were apparently missing, so steam proceeded to download said missing files. It was a 136MB in total, and after it finished I ran my Skyrim launcher, that generated a new .ini, I edited it back to my specifications (all the same edits I had on my other .ini which I had no issues with), then launched the game. Everything seemed back to normal, no crashing, nothing; until I picked Tundra Cotton. I noticed the exact same thing EpicRandomGuy did.

 

The strange thing is that this issue is not effecting ALL ingredients. For example, I discovered this whole issue while in Rorikstead, so I decided to test out some other ingredients. I walked over to the town garden and picked some potato, leek, and wheat. None of those animations have an issue. It seems to be the mountain flowers (blue and red), thistle, lavender, Tundra Cotton, and more that I probably haven't gotten to test.

 

I hope this provides a bit more information on this strange bug, and I will uninstall the game if it comes to that. But I want to explore all available options before doing that.

 

Before anyone asks about specific mods I'm using, here's my load order:

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Falskaar.esm=1

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

XFLMain.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1

SplashofRain.esp=1

AOS.esp=1

Dark NightsB.esp=1

realrainextended.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1

adura_skyrimmerchantmod.esp=0

improvedbountyrewards.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp=1

RE_RealEstate.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

AMatterOfTime.esp=1

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=1

StormLord.esp=1

Third Era - Dwemer.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp=1

AdalMatar.esp=1

Ebonvale.esp=1

OvensAndChurnsPlayerHouses.esp=1

quest_pitfighter.esp=0

RiversideLodge.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1

Bounty Gold.esp=1

Civil War Overhaul.esp=1

Differently Ebony.esp=1

PalistovSpinningArrows.esp=1

PalistovSpinningArrows_Dawnguard.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

ETaC - Villages Complete.esp=1

ETaC - Morthal.esp=1

ETaC Follower Add-On.esp=1

Helgen Reborn.esp=1

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1

ELFXEnhancer.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

RND_ETaC-Patch.esp=1

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1

RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

dovahkiinrelax.esp=1

AlchemyOrganization.esp=1

EnchantingAwakened.esp=1

EnchantingAwakenedDawnguard.esp=1

EnchantingAwakenedPlugins.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

Inigo.esp=1

XFLDialogue.esp=1

XFLPlugins.esp=1

moveit.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1

DawnofWindhelm.esp=1

OvensAndChurnsMain.esp=1

OvensAndChurnsMinorInns.esp=1

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

Merged Patch.esp=1

Thanks to anyone who tries to assist me and others on this insane bug.

-Elsarian

P.S. Apologies to the moderators if this breaks forum policy.

[set timescale to #, yes, this topic again.]

In regards to timescale, I would personally recommend the Dynamic TimeScale mod. One of my all-time favorite mods, and essential.

 

Link: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/10594/?

[Console Command Help]

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/369524-console-modding-is-not-supported-here/ <---------Console modding is not supported here.

[Unofficial Skyrim Patch - do I need it?]

I've been playing Skyrim 1.9.32 for about 140 hours and whereas I've noticed a few oddities here and there, there's been nothing really horrible.

 

So I'm wondering if I install and the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, will it make my gameplay experience that much better, like will I say "geez, why did I not do this 120 hours ago?" or will it not really make that much of a difference?

 

I've got the Nexus Mod Manager and I can fuss with my load order if I have to, I suppose ... but as the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

Technically, you don't "need" it. However, it's definitely a must have mod. You would be amazed at how many bugs are still left in the vanilla game even after the numerous official patches. USP (unofficial skyrim patch) helps prevent save bloat, messed up quests targets, eventual CTD's with long-term play, and so much more. It won't hurt your game at all by installing it (by 'hurt, I mean conflict with anything else). It's a very clean mod, and extremely useful. It's not that large of a download, so go ahead and install it. It'll make your life a lot easier in the long run, and possibly more.

 

-Elsarian

 

Edit: The full changelog is here: http://www.iguanadons.net/Unofficial%20Skyrim%20Patch%20Version%20History.html

[i stuck in Helgen]

Well, i have delete several mods and there has been some changes. No lag, CTD and freeze occur. Firstly i thought it's finally working fine because i deleted "realistic wildlife" mods, but now noticed, that CTD's and freezes came back after i enabled IMCN (Imp's more complex needs mod). After i enabled it, 30min of gameplay and game started to lag, freeze and crash again. Later i will try to play again with IMCN disabled and it will be clear, is this mod really crashing my game

 

I like Imp's mod and all, but perseid's Realistic Needs and Diseases mod is by far the most compatible needs mod out there.

 

Here's the link: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26228/?

 

I definitely recommend that you use RND and see how that helps out your game. RnD also has MCM support, so it can be edited, and even uninstalled from in the game. Very useful.

 

Let me know how that goes.

[i stuck in Helgen]

I guess i have to delete some mods then.. DAMN!

 

Oh, one more thing. What mods actually damage game? simple armor mods or those which works all the time (i mean frostfall or other mods which uses scripts)?

 

And yeah, i lied, i told you number of esp files. I have 147 mods (most of them animations, armors, weapons and variuos immersion things)..

 

To add to what bben has said, if you want to just skip Helgen altogether without having to deal with it, then use some of the Alternate start mods. This one is the top community favorite, as well as my personal favorite. Link: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9557

 

Even if you don't want to use it at all, you can just use it for testing instead.

[I've been seeing strange things]

I can for sure say that number 1 is very common. I've seen mammoths falling out of the sky countless times since I started playing on release. Now, the others? By the Gods and Daedra, your game is possessed by Sheogorath himself! Or not himself, whichever.

[i stuck in Helgen]

my recent savegame is almost 8MB size. And i played it only today. Came to Whiterun for a first time, and a savefile is already 8MB size, is it normal? Because savefiles of Helgen doesn't reach 1MB

 

My current character, which is 30 hours in, is only at 7.53 MB with 73 mods installed. Your save is quickly increasing size that early in the game. It's not yet large enough to cause issues, yet. However, with that said, at that rate you will definitely start seeing crashing and freezing 10-20th hour, if not less. I recommend you strip away all the mods you don't consider essential for play, then start a new game and see what comes of that. 200+ mods is a damn-lot of mods lol.

[i stuck in Helgen]

Save bloat can occur when you have very many mods installed. All those scripts and other information is saved in your savefile, so when you launch your game, all those mods aren't having to restart. Too many can cause your save to "bloat", grow in size, to the point where it becomes unstable. The best way to find this out is by going to where your saves are stored. Default directory for Win 7 is C:/Documents, My Games, Skyrim, Saves. Look for your most recent save on that character, right click the file, then click "properties", and it will tell you how many megabytes large that file is. I've been told that 5-10 MB is normal for the vanilla game, while 25 Megabytes and up is definitely save bloat and WILL cause issues like CTD's, freezing and so forth. Your PC specs don't matter if it's save bloat causing the issue because it's an issue with Skyrim.

 

Let me know what you find out.

 

Also, if the issue is save bloat, then the only thing I can tell you to do, to my knowledge, is decrease the amount of mods you have installed.

[i stuck in Helgen]

Hmmmmm........what's the size of your save? Meaning, are you experiencing save bloat? I ask because no matter how well you get your mods to work with one another, save bloat will always destroy your game. I have a feeling that since you're running so many mods (no doubt large ones) then this is what could possibly be happening to you.

 

Also, have you noticed any particular spots your game keeps crashing at?

[i stuck in Helgen]

Best thing would be to scan your load order with BOSS, see if any mods contain a high number of dirty edits. After that, run TES5 Edit to see if there is a conflicting mod in your load order, and also TES5 Edit to clean those mods that have dirty edits. If you don't know how to use TES5 Edit, then I suggest you look at the many resources online that show you how to properly clean your mods.

 

Links:

 

Gopher's tutorial on TES5EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ

 

TES5EDIT Cleaning Guide on the Creation Kit Wikia: http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit

 

Download for BOSS: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6

 

P.S. Remember to follow ALL instructions and advice these people provide. Be sure to read all descriptions and understand everything before tinkering around with mods and Skyrim. Be sure to back up any mod you decide to edit/clean so that in the event of something going wrong, you'll have a back-up copy. Also, if you find any mods that have an excessive number of dirty edits, be sure to go to the comments section of those mods and ask the mod author to clean his/her mod and upload it so that all those who use that mod will have a clean version too.

 

-Elsarian

[Dawnguard DLC question]

I am currently a vampire lord and finished all quests for the vampires, but i wanted also to try the darnguards quests. Is there a mod or cheat or something that would make my do also the quests for dawnguard? (Im not a vampire anymore but they still attack my)

 

Simply, put: No. You have to start the quest over with either another character, or have made a save before choosing a side, so that you could reload that save to try the other side of the quest. I actually liked that Beth did this because there aren't many, if any, quests that allow you to actually 'make' a decision.

 

Either way, no you have to choose one or the other.

 

-Elsarian

[Fallout 4 Unofficially Announced]

 

 

:O

I hope that's a good response lol?

 

Don't forget that the information is neither confirmed nor denied, so don't take it too seriously.

 

-Elsarian

 

i am interested in it, it seems legit. so yeah, a good response.

 

i am interested about how FO4 will come about, hopefully it isn't as lazy as Skyrim (with the side quests, the side quests in FO3 were fantastic), and they have a hardcore mode which includes a believable inventory system (one does not simply.... carry 100 brooms because they only weigh 1 pound.... and that you can carry 300 freaking pounds, which is absolutely ridiculous and extremely immersion breaking... but that's another thread for another time...).

 

 

and since Obsidian has some of the original devs of the original FO's, i hope they both work together instead of JUST Bethesda working on it, because Bethesda carter too much towards the casuals, and we have to mod it too our liking to make it an actual survival game.

 

but since this is "next-gen", it could be better than usual.

 

Indeed. I'm really excited to see what they can do with Fallout on the creation engine. I wouldn't mind them keeping the formula they had with FO3 (different MQ and area of course) and instead just ram up everything else. More quests, more NPC's, better towns and settlement, more weapons, more creature diversity, and better design overall.

 

Edit: Especially quests. Bethesda has been doing pretty poor questing since Oblivion. They just feel a bit shallow to me. But who knows, maybe they'll really ramp things up this time.

[Fallout 4 Unofficially Announced]

:O

I hope that's a good response lol?

 

Don't forget that the information is neither confirmed nor denied, so don't take it too seriously.

 

-Elsarian

[Fallout 4 Unofficially Announced]

I wasn't exactly sure where this should be placed, so I figured this would be the best spot. If it isn't, then I'm sure it will be moved.

 

After looking through the forums a bit, I wasn't able to find this link put up anywhere, so hopefully this will be new to some/most of you (It sure is to me). The information contained within the article is NEITHER CONFIRMED NOR DENIED. It's stated that it is a leak, but it could also be false, so take things with a grain of salt and/or a mouthful.

 

Here is the link: http://ugrgaming.com/2013/06/18/fallout-4-unofficially-announced/

 

Tell me what you guys think about this in the comments bellow.

 

-Elsarian

[The Elder Scrolls Online Petition]

Seriously? Is it that big of a deal? If you had a free-to-play model then you'd be paying more than you would on a subscription model. If there are items you want to upgrade, pay for it. Armor? Pay for it. It just wouldn't work and it wouldn't promote much incentive for the devs to push out more content. A subscription model would promote a more stable "mega"-server and weekly content that you do not have to pay for. Everyone has the same stuff as it comes out. That, to me, is a better system for these kinds of games. If you can't pay, then don't play.

 

Here's what the developers had to say: "The Elder Scrolls games are all about allowing the player to go where they want, be who they want, and do what they want. We feel that putting pay gates between the player and content at any point in game ruins that feeling of freedom, and just having one small monthly fee for 100% access to the game fits the IP and the game much better than a system where you have to pay for features and access as you play. The Elder Scrolls Online was designed and developed to be a premium experience: hundreds of hours of gameplay, tons of depth and features, professional customer support - and a commitment to have ongoing content at regular intervals after launch. This type of experience is best paired with a one-time fee per month, as opposed to many smaller payments that would probably add up to more than $14.99/month any way."

 

I don't see petitioning Blizard about their models, yet it takes them so long to push out content. I agree with and find the ESO Team's plan fair.

 

-Elsarian

[Today is E3: Do you expect to see anything from Beth Studio's?]

Yeah they're going to talk about something definitely I seen an image of the trucks unloading near E3. Take that for what you will, I hope for Fallout 4 but I doubt it.

 

http://i.imgur.com/Ho9v80Hh.jpg

 

 

Found it here http://imgur.com/a/7UCkL

Very, very interesting. I really hope they have something to show. I watched the Xbox conference today and no mention of Bethesda was included. Maybe they'll have a presence on the floor somewhere and some of the journalists from Kotaku or Rev3 will get the scoop on it. We still have 2-3 more days to go, so hopefully more will be shown.

[Today is E3: Do you expect to see anything from Beth Studio's?]

Feel free to add your vote in the poll, but mainly this topic is for discussion on what we may or may not see from Bethesda at E3. Keep in mind that I am not talking about Bethesda Softworks which I am sure is going to have an appearance with Wolfenstein. I'm specifically talking about Bethesda Studios which are the creators of the Elder Scrolls games and the developers of Fallout. So, what do you expect to see over the coming days?

[Oblivion or Skyrim?]

Skyrim

[Just had a thought: Can First-Person Animations be Modded?]

I'd LOVE a 1st person jump animation that reflects the fact I do a tumble in 3rd person view.

 

Agreed :biggrin: ! Not only would it be cool to see new combat animations, but all other animations as well. It would seem to me that if it's possible to actually add our character's body in first-person, that quite frankly change the first-person animations, then it should also be possible to edit the stock ones as well.

[Removing the mask Miraak?]

 

I changed the Miraak's face by creation kit and would like to know how his face is. How I do to remove the Miraak's mask during the game? How did you do to remove the Miraak's Mask in this pictures?

 

 

How do I the new Miraak body (modified by me) become a standard for the race him?

 

Well, I'm no expert by any means, but from what I do know it seems to me that it can be done by opening up the NPC's inventory within the CK and simply remove the mask from it. Therefore, in game, he will not have it in his inventory, thus not be wearing it. Some one correct me if I am mistaken.

[Just had a thought: Can First-Person Animations be Modded?]

For the killcam idea, dance of death wishes to say hi.

 

I know, and use, all about the Dance of Death and what it does. However, it does not resolve or add to my suggestion of brand new Killcams. Dance of Death simply uses what Bethesda already made, but didn't include into the game. They were probably a last minute decision to not use those, whereas Dance of Death activates them. I am talking about making completely new animations, untouched by Bethesda; solely from the user.

[Just had a thought: Can First-Person Animations be Modded?]

Yes of course. 1st and 3rd person animations are the same file type. I'm not sure what makes them 1st person only, probably a flag in the file prevents it from displaying in third person. Of course, I only Gamebyro inside and out, not Creation.

 

Hmm, interesting. Well, if that's the case, I wonder why there aren't more first-person style animation mods? I see all these new mods that make these rather cool animations, especially combat, however I've yet to see someone actually add new animations to the game that can be seen in first-person. It would also be interesting to see new animations for killcams, if that's even possible without motion-capture.

[Just had a thought: Can First-Person Animations be Modded?]

The question is rather straightforward, obviously. I've noticed that most mods that change many of the combat animations only become apparent in third-person view. For example: You can have a mod that gives you this crazy cool, kung-fu-cinamatic, sword swing, whereas in first-person it would simply appear to be the same vanilla sword swing. So, my question is whether or not it is possible to either edit, or create completely new combat animations for first-person view. Even if it is moddable, I don't know a thing about animation or even how open the Creation Engine is with animations.

 

So, what do you guys think? Possible? No?

 

Thanks,

 

-Elsarian