BluePixel Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) In response to post #25809369. #25809884, #25811279, #25811379, #25811454, #25811619, #25811709, #25811839, #25812549, #25812579, #25812739, #25816559, #25817939, #25818664, #25822494 are all replies on the same post.frogzilla98 wrote: I feel like I'm in a club of eight who like the fact that the Protagonist may have a voice. #championofkirkwall Traditionalfire wrote: DA2 will always be my favorite Dragon Age.frogzilla98 wrote: Just a lowly refugee, your champion arrivedBrown shores of Ferelden fade to Kirkwall's buzzing hiveRose above the poverty and rose above the painMy friend became the savior of the white city of chainsfrogzilla98 wrote: Seriously, though. How do you feel about the protagonist having a voice? Rioplats wrote: I'm against the idea. I'm planning to really involve myself with learning to create mod content starting with FO4, and this makes it really hard to make it immersive. Doesn't it feel wrong to you if you can speak normally to one NPC, but then you suddenly become mute whenever you speak to a modded NPC?Thviker wrote: Honestly, the trailer makes it look like it's not modifiable at all, but hopefully that's just because it's pre-rendered.Rioplats wrote: No way, I refuse to believe that Bethesda has given up modding... It looks like a boosted version of the Creation/Gamebryo engine, so it should be moddable, right?Thviker wrote: I have lost all hope myself of this game being tolerable. So I counting on you guys to keep the hope up. Everything may change once we see some actual gameplay though.hector530 wrote: Entire video was rendering in game...Thviker wrote: You can't prove that.hector530 wrote: go to their facebook they say it, BGS has never done bullshots.One the very few who haventfrogzilla98 wrote: @Rioplats - No, it wouldn't be wrong to me because that mod quest isn't part of the original game so I wouldn't expect voice acting from the Protagonist. TheCourier13 wrote: @ hector530Link?ArekkusuStorm wrote: @TheCourier - I didn't see it on their Facebook page, but Hector's right, it's written on Bethesda store's preorder page: http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/fallout-4.htmlPre-order Fallout 4 and get 20% off your next purchase on the Bethesda Store! (A 20% off code will be emailed to you after purchase. 20% off excludes games, pre-sale, deposit and sale items. Codes expire October 31, 2015.)World’s Most Anticipated Game in Development at Bethesda Game Studios. Full Details to be Unveiled on June 14th at Bethesda’s E3 Showcase.“We know what this game means to everyone,” said Game Director, Todd Howard. “The time and technology have allowed us to be more ambitious than ever. We’ve never been more excited about a game, and we can’t wait to share it.” The game’s official trailer, created >in-game< at Bethesda Game Studios, can be viewed at: www.fallout4.com.Fallout 4 has not yet been rated by the ESRB. Rioplats wrote: @frogzilla98, Obviously that's what your head tells you; don't expect voice acting from mods. But mods work so well because they fit into the game as if they were meant to be part of the game. Once that's taken away, you're just left feeling like it was a cheat or broken. If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that people like myself are.I'm not a "hardcore" fundamentalist but I think it's a very bad idea. One of the best things about the fallout games (I only played 3 and NV so far) is that you can customize the character and imagine his/her personality. You can create many types of characters like in Tes games.Even if the character they give us is awesome on his own, the very fact that you are stuck with him makes it awkward.It just seems like a pointless gimmick. I mean it seem will be given a new, massive, colorful world to explore, but without character customization. Edited June 4, 2015 by BluePixel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25821109. Rast3rMan wrote: On Steam for £50 as a pre-order with no extra goodies!That could change, people should wait, there is no reason whatsoever to pre-order the thing yet, it's not like Steam is going to run out of copies. Amazon is listed a pre-order source for the game, they'll have disks which are usually cheaper, I brought the DVD versions of FNV and Skyrim from Amazon and they cost less than buying directly from Steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devanroth22 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25809369. #25809884, #25811279, #25811379, #25811454, #25811619, #25811709, #25811839, #25812549, #25812579, #25812739, #25816559, #25817939, #25818664, #25822494, #25822964 are all replies on the same post.frogzilla98 wrote: I feel like I'm in a club of eight who like the fact that the Protagonist may have a voice. #championofkirkwall Traditionalfire wrote: DA2 will always be my favorite Dragon Age.frogzilla98 wrote: Just a lowly refugee, your champion arrivedBrown shores of Ferelden fade to Kirkwall's buzzing hiveRose above the poverty and rose above the painMy friend became the savior of the white city of chainsfrogzilla98 wrote: Seriously, though. How do you feel about the protagonist having a voice? Rioplats wrote: I'm against the idea. I'm planning to really involve myself with learning to create mod content starting with FO4, and this makes it really hard to make it immersive. Doesn't it feel wrong to you if you can speak normally to one NPC, but then you suddenly become mute whenever you speak to a modded NPC?Thviker wrote: Honestly, the trailer makes it look like it's not modifiable at all, but hopefully that's just because it's pre-rendered.Rioplats wrote: No way, I refuse to believe that Bethesda has given up modding... It looks like a boosted version of the Creation/Gamebryo engine, so it should be moddable, right?Thviker wrote: I have lost all hope myself of this game being tolerable. So I counting on you guys to keep the hope up. Everything may change once we see some actual gameplay though.hector530 wrote: Entire video was rendering in game...Thviker wrote: You can't prove that.hector530 wrote: go to their facebook they say it, BGS has never done bullshots.One the very few who haventfrogzilla98 wrote: @Rioplats - No, it wouldn't be wrong to me because that mod quest isn't part of the original game so I wouldn't expect voice acting from the Protagonist. TheCourier13 wrote: @ hector530Link?ArekkusuStorm wrote: @TheCourier - I didn't see it on their Facebook page, but Hector's right, it's written on Bethesda store's preorder page: http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/fallout-4.htmlPre-order Fallout 4 and get 20% off your next purchase on the Bethesda Store! (A 20% off code will be emailed to you after purchase. 20% off excludes games, pre-sale, deposit and sale items. Codes expire October 31, 2015.)World’s Most Anticipated Game in Development at Bethesda Game Studios. Full Details to be Unveiled on June 14th at Bethesda’s E3 Showcase.“We know what this game means to everyone,” said Game Director, Todd Howard. “The time and technology have allowed us to be more ambitious than ever. We’ve never been more excited about a game, and we can’t wait to share it.” The game’s official trailer, created >in-game< at Bethesda Game Studios, can be viewed at: www.fallout4.com.Fallout 4 has not yet been rated by the ESRB. Rioplats wrote: @frogzilla98, Obviously that's what your head tells you; don't expect voice acting from mods. But mods work so well because they fit into the game as if they were meant to be part of the game. Once that's taken away, you're just left feeling like it was a cheat or broken. If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that people like myself are.BluePixel wrote: I'm not a "hardcore" fundamentalist but I think it's a very bad idea. One of the best things about the fallout games (I only played 3 and NV so far) is that you can customize the character and imagine his/her personality. You can create many types of characters like in Tes games.Even if the character they give us is awesome on his own, the very fact that you are stuck with him makes it awkward.It just seems like a pointless gimmick. I mean it seem will be given a new, massive, colorful world to explore, but without character customization.@Rioplats - I mean...maybe we could just mod out the player's voice, n make him a true vault dweller! I'd endorse it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Z3Y Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Excellent. In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer. We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life. Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! Edited June 4, 2015 by znancekivell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent. In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer. We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life. Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game... Contains strong language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent. In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer. We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life. Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game... Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) In response to post #25824664. Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Edited June 4, 2015 by jim_uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkspazz Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25824664. #25824914 is also a reply to the same post.Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."jim_uk wrote: This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Good lord everyone chill out, They already hired voice actors for both the male and female character, You'll be able to play as a girl. Can y'all stop circle jerking nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMB92 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) In response to post #25824664. #25824914, #25825809, #25826019, #25826209 are all replies on the same post.Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."jim_uk wrote: This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Darkspazz wrote: Good lord everyone chill out, They already hired voice actors for both the male and female character, You'll be able to play as a girl. Can y'all stop circle jerking nonsense?JianXintou wrote: Are there any sources for these supposed VAs? The reddit post above may not be 100% accurate but doesn't seem too far off, either. CRBASF23 wrote: If we was really the person who leaked the information to Kotaku, why in the Kotaku article it says that they called for both Male and Female actors, when in her reddit post says you can only play as Male?Can you back that, Darkspazz, with say, some EVIDENCE :/Back to the topic, I don't particularly feel comfortable with having a "gender change" at the end of the story, in fact if at all. I always play my character as "Trinity" from the Matrix, this would piss me off severely. And hopefully that woman from reddit isn't joking about a new engine + map size, let's hope it's moddable. With all this talk of cutting everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. But then, they'd probably want to charge wouldn't they? Edited June 4, 2015 by SMB92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JianXintou Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) In response to post #25824664. #25824914, #25825809, #25825919 are all replies on the same post.Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."jim_uk wrote: This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Darkspazz wrote: Good lord everyone chill out, They already hired voice actors for both the male and female character, You'll be able to play as a girl. Can y'all stop circle jerking nonsense?SMB92 wrote: Can you back that, Darkspazz, with say, some EVIDENCE :/Are there any sources for these supposed VAs? The reddit post above may not be 100% accurate but doesn't seem too far off, either. Edited June 4, 2015 by JianXintou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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