I am *ashamed* of you.

[BlazeStryker]

Last night, a modder calling himself pervboy answered one of my biggest problems with the Robot Workbench in the wee hours of the morning. I'm talking about the PAINT. You see, I have always had a problem with the concept that new parts looked janky as Hell despite being, you know, New. Last night, I praised pervboy and noted I was falling asleep so I went to bed and found he'd taken his mod down because of complaints! I apologized immediately to make sure he knew my fanboyish enthusiasm was not even mildly sarcastic and he told me that people complained that new robot parts should look janky.

 

Before I deliver my final summation, let me break this down in terms of lore, the DLC, and common sense. Oh, and DO NOT get on pervboy about all this; this diatribe is strictly mine and it comes straight from the heart.

 

1) Lore

Fallout 4 is 210 years after The War. The Endless '50s aside, this is worth noting. All those old robots were a trifle janky, yes, but that was after 210 flipping years! They lasted quite well for that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "My hot plate is on the fritz but this turret's in top shape after two centuries!"--Piper Wright~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

With that level of endurance, newly crafted/repaired/painted pieces on new bots or old should look new coming out of the damn Workbench!

 

2) The Automatron DLC

Ada and her fellows are worn. Fair enough; they'd been on the road the whole time with Workbenches few and far between and contact with Commonwealth and Mechanist enemies.

Mechanist forces are janky. Yes. They were killing their way back and forth across the Commonwealth on behalf of the Robobrains.

The Rust Devils' bots are janky as all Hell. They're made by Raiders! What do you expect?

 

3) Common Sense

NONE of that dictates that new parts made by a (hopefully) sane main character need to look Janky. Quite the reverse; Codsworth is noted for mourning those stains he'd collected over his 210 year watch of Sanctuary Hills. In any logical headcanon, the new parts should look new, with paint as bold as you can come up with or chrome, gold, copper, silver, steel and/or lead coating. I'd make an argument for paint to be applied separately for individual part locations, but that might be too much...

Most of all, it's a MOD. You don't want this sensible, logical approach? You like a weirdly unsalvaged landscape as dumped on Boston and the Commonwealth by Odd Toward and the boys? The don't use the mod but leave Pervboy ALONE...

 

4) Summary (execution? I wish!)

~~~~~~~~~~~"You SHAMED yourself, sir! You DISGRACED yourself, sir!"--Lord Wellington (giving Simmerson a well-earned chewing out during the events of Sharpe's Eagle)~~~~~~~~~~

I actually doubt those responsible for my outright rage ("outrage" literally being a cute contraction of this) will ever read this. But if you do, and I speak to you directly now, you have shamed yourselves, You have disgraced yourselves. You have forgotten the whole damned point of modding; it ain't all beer and titties, even MxR would agree! The real summation? Re-read the title!

[RoNin1971]

I like both options.

 

...but as it comes to lore and such, you appear to forget one thing: The 'new' parts are supposedly nothing but created from salvaged 'old' parts.

Thus they can not look new, unless you where to somehow manufacture new parts. (which should be the case with all the machines, imho)

[aurreth]

While for some reason the Commonwealth seems stuck in time at about 5 years after the war, my reasoning has always been "I'm 210 years old, and I remember things like sandpaper, steel wool, paint and brooms". So when I build things they tend to look new. Not necessarily professionally built, but clean and freshly painted where possible.

 

So I grab all the "clean" mods I can find. Unfortunately Laurent's Robot Skins is the only robot one really available, and it, well, lacks detail (if you paint the robot blue, everything is blue, like you dipped it in blue paint).

 

Tell your friend to put his mod back up, and to ignore the complaints. Some of us are capable of understanding just how long 200 years is (as in it took us less than 200 years to progress from the horse cart to landing on the moon), and find it illogical that in all that time people couldn't figure out how to patch holes in the walls or tar a roof.

[BlazeStryker]

You think I didn't? He's out. He left the Paint Kit for us to do it oursels (if only I had the skills!) but he's gone. I'd be unsuprised if he left Fallout 4 and modding behind him and that's why I am so damned furious. I don't think I'm ever going to forgive those morons.

[RoNin1971]

You're right about that. People shouldn't complain. Those who know the least of how to do it, have the biggest mouth about how others should. Do it "better" yourself or just shut up, is what I would like to say to those.

[aurreth]

Mod is back up, and the textures look great. I'm gonna go rebuild my provisioners as they roll through the depot :)

[Handy6373]

I saw the same thing happen to a weapon replacer mod some time ago. The mod author made it so all normal vanilla weapons replaced the pipe weapons. Enough people complained they removed the mod and as far as I know never made anything else. Ok so it's not perfectly lore friendly, so if you don't like it don't dl it and move on no comment necessary. No idea who made the mod it was just something I was interested in. Now when I see something I think I may use a dl it immediately. if you want to be 100% lore fine, you want to turn the world upside down fine. Just don't ruin someone else's day because it doesn't fit "lore friendly".

[BlazeStryker]

I remember that one, actually. (Got the mod, love the paints. Oh, he updated to get Buddy's butt done right!)

 

I agree, replacing all pipes is a bit much but that was his call. you're dead right. Not like any arms get twisted to use mods if you5 don't agree with them. Personally, I find pipe guns... silly at best. The ones that are where they shouldn't be (Like pre-war safes) are more offensive, naturally. Having those replaced by pre-war guns makes sense to me.

[aurreth]

Having those replaced by pre-war guns makes sense to me.

 

I think I saw a mod that did that not too long ago. And there also shouldn't be any caps in a prewar safe.

[joshua121]

So glad you posted this Blaze. Some of the users/commenters can be absolutely atrocious. I went through some of the same things back when I was modding New Vegas, and I used to get really mad about it. I learned to ignore it and I faithfully follow the dumb user comments thread to this day. Mainly because it helped me see that I wasn't the only one dealing with idiocy.

 

I hope you're friend comes back, and I hope he doesn't let a bunch of naysayers and negative people stop him from doing something he enjoys.