CLIMATE CHANGE VS PLANTARY HEAT RETENTION.

[Lisnpuppy]

With my above post logic, I'd imagine factoring CO(Carbone Monoxide) is very important thx for pointing this out...

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AS IT WOULD LIKELY FLOAT WAY LONGER IN THE AIR VS CO2, 2 Atoms vs 3.

Logic? Logic implies not just setting your argument up in some coherent way, which I do not believe you do. It also implies that the points of your arguement have been shown to be true. We should be discussing science here...and that is not what you are doing.

 

Yes, plants do use carbon dioxide. The problem is we have destroyed so many plants that do this best (like trees) and at such a fast rate. Combine that with the amount of the stuff we pump into the atmosphere every year and you soon find yourself in the upside down of it.

 

Also, I dont even know WTF you are trying to say about raindrops cause it makes no sense in any scientific way.

 

However, you have seen carbon dioxide in rain as it is soluble in water. But when doing so ot creates Carbonic Acid which goes into the ocean, other bodies of water and into the land. Because this is an acid this is also one of the many acid rains which you still hear about. Acid rain is any rainwater that contains an element which is acidic. Some are worse than others. While some rain has prevented further C02 from building up in the air it simply ends in the ocean and soil and has shown to be bad for sea life especially frustrations and the like (and here is a lovely article citing this from all the way back in 2009. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111807469)

 

As for Thermal Dynamics cooling the planet....well, yes I suppose it will impact temps and cool the planet after several millions or billions of years. Global warming is a misnomer in some ways. Climate change is actually better but climate change isnt just it getting hotter in places (though it sure does where I live.) Because of things heating up from the Carbon Dioxide in the air and we know what greenhouse gases do to a planet. We have observed the results here on earth as was mentioned before. We also can see what extreme amounts of C02 does to a planet because Venus is covered in C02 gases.

 

Weather is a complex and dynamic system which is hard to understand and climare change doesnt just talk about local weather changes, though it absolutely has the effect. People have been keeping track of weather for hundreds of years. One way you can see what what weather and overall climate has done is by studying tree ring growth. This is an excellent indicator of what was going on. Studying rings from trees all over the world can give you great info. (https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2540/tree-rings-provide-snapshots-of-earths-past-climate/)

 

Another great way to study climate in the past is through glacial ice core samples (http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/l as this can show how much rain, the temperature, how the glaciers were building or receding. We can even tell if volcanos were impacting earth's atmosphere.

 

Even cores from lakes and the ocean can provide planet wide climate info from the past. This is not just guesswork, this is scientific investigation.

 

Because scientists can use these things along with many many others they are able to view earth's recent weather, temperatures and even what plants were growing in the past (fossils, tree rings and even pollen counts can be made from core samples, and even human teeth.) So scientist know the amounts different gases have been in the atmosphere in earth distant and more recent past. So they can see how quickly or slowly things happen and how very much humans have put into the air and the impact it is having g. Earth goes through climate shifts for sure. All on it's own for all kinds of reasons. But very, very rarely does anything the earth does move fast. Things are moving very rapidly right now and the only conclusion is that humans are having an adverse impact on our climate. What normally takes thousands if not millions of years is happening in decades. Humans would likely adapt if this happened over a slower time. But we should remember that the climate did come very close to wiping humans out about 75,000 years ago.

 

I'm not sure what you think you know that thousands of climate scientists working with archaeologists, paleontologists, biologist, physicists and many other disciplines have missed. If it is based on your posts then I can not figure it out. Your "logic" has no real basis in science. You obviously have decided you are not going to believe science or even know good science or any science at all really. You do not seem to actually understand the ideas you are using in your 'logic."

 

I'm not sure any honest scientist denies climate change at this point. I suppose what is actually still debated is how quickly is man pushing the planet to a point of no return. Humans and hominids have survived some climate change in the past. However the populations were much, much, much smaller and were able to move (since these creatures and then modern humans were able to cross into other continents and were migratory anyway.) Our reliance on tech may just have a very detrimental impact on us this time around.

[Aurielius]

 

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I'm not sure any honest scientist denies climate change at this point. I suppose what is actually still debated is how quickly is man pushing the planet to a point of no return. Humans and hominids have survived some climate change in the past. However the populations were much, much, much smaller and were able to move (since these creatures and then modern humans were able to cross into other continents and were migratory anyway.) Our reliance on tech may just have a very detrimental impact on us this time around.

 

I believe that Climate Change is generally agreed upon by rational people, the rate and what drives it is the only debatable point. We all agree that the train is moving, the remaining question is what speed it will have when it reaches the station. I believe that Homo sapiens will survive no matter changes occur but whether civilization as we know it will survive is another matter altogether. We are the first species capable of destroying the planet in more than one way, a unique distinction. A comforting thought is that given millions of years Earth can repair the damage of almost anything, even us.

[Deleted54170User]

Speak softly, walk tip-toing along the halls of educators, and carry your books like they are bars of solid gold... If they use books anymore, that is.

 

Oops! I think I dropped something of worth. Where and when possible I add to my life some worth out of my learned collection of adding mirth.

 

I realize that teachers, some college Professors too, are often too serious, and sometimes twisting their wisdom gets me a wound on my old book of my life from my own literary library when I add to these teachers and professors posts I add something of worth. Excuse my mirth for a bit of some worth.

 

Carbon Monoxide: CO Is a lot more of a factor. Not supposedly, actually. Being it is one carbon and one oxygen has gotten it ignored. All those educated lawyers and Professors of gas guzzling machines don't want their vehicles (babies as such) to get so much attention, they might have to ride a bike or walk to and from work.

 

All hail those highly educated minds, who know and still own a gasoline/petrol guzzling powered machine. They rule!

 

Or buy an electric car and be frowned upon, looked down upon, even threatened by Stephen King fans about vehicles that can think for themselves.

 

School is opening it's doors soon. Be prepared!

 

I see two shadows lurking about in the halls of wisdom. There names are Wisdom and Mirth!

[ScytheBearer]

Here is our victory. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10375993-exrai-banned/

 

Now, can we close this drivel too, oh wonderful moderator?

[Lisnpuppy]

Oh good. I thought I was going to have to go more insane trying to decipher another of those posts.

 

Someone poke Dante or something to close this.