Switch Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 this is another thing i hate; people make a big fuss over one death, but they overlook the war crimes that happen evry day; thousands of kids are beaten to death for doing nothing wrong, women raped, villages burned, and the so-called UN does virtually nothing to stop it. thats what really ****** me off well sadly the UN cant be everywhere all the time no matter wot we do there's still gunna be evil in the world, its human nature just hopefully there'll be less of it in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeLLL Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Welcome to the world of politics. Why fix a problem in some far flung country <that can be realtivly easy to solve> when you can fight a fictious war on a certain group of "religious extremests". Helping OTHER people doesn't seem to be on the list of things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciddy Posted August 21, 2003 Author Share Posted August 21, 2003 no the un works on the tings that are the most important to them and try to hide the other bits up with lies and cheap brbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 no the un works on the tings that are the most important to them and try to hide the other bits up with lies and cheap brbies Speaking from personal experience? Making one-sided assumptions about the practices of anyone or anything without fully understanding doesn't look to good... I'm suprised a thread like this has stayed alive and unlocked as long as it has. Political debates lead to religious debates, religious debates lead to flaming... which it appears this is nearing. I am not really anything, but many would label me agnostic. I really don't care one way or the other. About people caring for a single person... that is the sort of thing that gives this pessimist hope. The mere fact that ONE person could mean so much is a friendly thought to me. I understand the point about the suffering of others, but to say "these 3 people are more important because they are 3 people" is an invallid argument in my mind. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThetaOrionis01 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I see no need to lock this thread, nor do I see warning signs that a flamefest may be about to begin - the discussion in here has remained civilized enough. ciddy, the UN has to work on compromise. It has to depend on its member states for funding and peacekeeping troops, and its decisions can be vetoed by member states.If one of the major powers on the security council refuses to back enforcing a UN resolution there is very little the UN can do about it. Given all that, it is surprising that the UN has achieved any successes at all. However, this is straying from religion into politics somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 My apologies. I did not mean to suggest this has gotten out of hand, or that it should be locked. I was merely announcing my suprise that it hasn't. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiseasedPunk Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 you forgot pagan :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Corbett Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 I dunno, it's looking kind of bad from where I sit... Roman Catholic, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albareth Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 Atheist, and proud of it. Some people *cough*theta*cough* may try to tell you I follow the semi-demonic cult of Teh Pink Bunny, but do not trust them, it's a lie! :P I'd reply to some of the religious debates earlier here if I could ever make myself read them all after them actual happening, don't worry, I'll flame you all to cinders for your beliefs later on (this subject is sure to come up again at one point or another by accident or not - always does). So no worries - then I shall SMITE thee with holy lightning! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThetaOrionis01 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 Here's a moral question I would like to pose, inspired by one of my favourite TV series, Red Dwarf. In one episode, the crew are met by a timetravelling extremely powerful being - the Inquisitor - which travels the universe and requires everyone he encounters to justify their existence. They must prove that they are worthy of the gift of life. (bear with me, this quick summary is leading up to the question :lol: ) One of the crew is the android Kryten, and when asked, he replies that he is not sure that he can justify his existence. The Inquisitor points out that Kryten's existence is replete with good works and selfless actions. Kryten replies that he is programmed to act as he does, and as he cannot act any other way, does this behaviour make him a worthwhile being? My question is - are humans not in a way programmed by education and upbringing? Do we only become fully human when we break our programming, so to speak, and arrive at our decisions not because we were taught to act in such and such a way but because we have questioned what we were taught, and are acting upon the conclusions we have drawn?Is conformity and obedience/towing the party line therefore not also a kind of programming? Or do we exercise our free will when we choose to conform? Is there a difference if we keep adhering to moral behaviour we were taught when young and never questioned rather than if we adopt the same moral code after breaking with our upbringing, questioning everything we were taught and concluding that this is the right code for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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