Fallout New Vegas freezes on startup

[MintyFreshGandalf]

hey, I'm new to these forums, so forgive me if I get something wrong. as I said in the title, my new vegas installation is freezing on startup, and I'm not sure how to fix it. I run NV using the 4gb patch, so I open the game from there. However, whenever it loads, it freezes on the first loading screen. The music keeps playing, but it never moves from the screen. I will include my load order list, so let me know if any of those could be causing the problems. until recently, I also had ENB installed, although I deleted the added files and then verified the gamed via steam.

 

load order:

# Automatically generated by Vortex

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

Asterra's Many Fixes.esp

BraveNewWorld.esm

Simple Open Freeside.esm

Functional Post Game Ending.esm

New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

IWR.esm

New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esm

TLD_Travelers.esm

Tales from the Burning Sands.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

Simple Open Strip.esm

Weapon Mod Expansion.esm

A World of Pain Revised.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

Th3OverseerCore.esm

Weapons of Our Millenia.esm

WME - GRA.esm

Frequency.esm

SomeguySeries.esm

WME - DLCs.esm

Operation Mirai - AR20 FAR.esm

Bionic Augmentation.esp

Cyberware.esm

NVR-Strip.esm

New Vegas Stories.esm

KhanInitiation.esp

More Traits.esm

Companion Core.esm

RobCo Certified.esm

PHWHPAPVisuals.esm

D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

More Perks.esm

Logic and Consistency Fixes.esp

Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp

Economy Overhaul.esp

JustHoldBreath.esp

JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp

Immersive Primary Needs.esp

FOVSlider.esp

JustAssortedMods.esp

WoOM - Misc Tweaks Patch.esp

CPI Icons.esp

PerkPackPlus.esp

MeleeCleave.esp

Cyberware OWB.esp

BigEmptyDisharmony.esp

Enhanced Vision.esp

FAFFNV.esp

Frequency - Dead Money Patch.esp

Fiendsfriend.esp

Integration - Couriers Stash.esp

Immersive Karma.esp

NCR Doggy Buddies.esp

ArmourRepairKits.esp

Vault_34_better_reactor.esp

NVR-Version_10.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Sniper Expanded.esp

NV_STTraitsandPerks.esp

NV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.esp

NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch - NVSE.esp

NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch.esp

RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

More Perks Update.esp

AAM.esp

Functional Post Game Ending - Populated Casinos Patch.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp

CNR_Beta.esp

NVR2 - YUP Patch.esp

EVE FNV - NO GRA.esp

WME - GRA - Complete.esp

Little More Lamplight.esp

DepthsOfDepravity.esp

BraveNewWorld-FPGE.esp

Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style).esp

Casino Crowds.esp

Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

Better Burned Man.esp

ReElijahfied.esp

WME - GRA - All Weapons.esp

WME - GRA - Vendor Reform.esp

Oxenloadscreens.esp

EVE FNV - NO DLC.esp

Weapon Mod Expansion.esp

WME - GRA - Just Guns.esp

Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

WMEVE - All DLCs.esp

WME - DLCs Arenovalis.esp

WME - DLCs.esp

Frequency - Honest Hearts Patch.esp

WMEVE - No DLCs.esp

WMEVE - No GRA.esp

Frequency - WME Patch.esp

MigTeslaChain.esp

Frequency - Old World Blues Patch.esp

Frequency - WME Honest Hearts Patch.esp

Frequency - WMEVE Patch.esp

IWR - Rebuilt.esp

WME - GRA - Weapon Integration.esp

Headhunting.esp

Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

TheInheritance.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

Russell.esp

NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

NorthRoad.esp

chemsets.esp

FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp

ADAM Complete.esp

ADAM - MERGE.esp

SimpleSink.esp

NVR-NPCs.esp

Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp

BraveNewWorld-YUP.esp

NVR2 - BNW Patch.esp

WME - GRA - Unique Integration.esp

Functional Post Game Ending - General Open Strip Patch.esp

TheBetterAngels.esp

AutumnLeaves.esp

Combined Weapons.esp

AWOPR - Underpass Patch.esp

CourierRangerArmorV2.esp

Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

JoshuaFixUncutNewVegas.esp

Julie Farkas Says Take Care.esp

ArMOAR AP Armor.esp

Ownerless Trash with DLC.esp

NudeRay 1.3.esp

FourEyesDynamic.esp

FourEyesBetter.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Riot Gear Neck Cover.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

DeadMoneyRealisticGoldBarWeight_25pounds.esp

Explorer Perk Revised - Locations.esp

IMPACT.esp

WME - GRA - Arenovalis.esp

Existence 2.0.esp

Meltdown Medley.esp

FO3WeaponsRestorationRILForceOverride.esp

ExplosivesImmunityFix.esp

Missiles to Rockets.esp

Pickpocket Overhaul.esp

Explosive Explosives.esp

NVGustsyHandyAnimatedEyes.esp

Diagonal movement.esp

NPCs Can Miss.esp

RetrievableThrowables.esp

Explosive Sounds Overhaul.esp

RedGlare_SMMG_Tweaks_v1.2a.esp

ThrowableFixes.esp

LiveDismember.esp

Simple Explosive Entry.esp

Toxic Cloud Fix.esp

MigGaussFix.esp

hz_EV Tweaks.esp

PackRat FourThreshold QuarterWeight.esp

Asurah_reanimation.esp

TripTrap.esp

Asurah_Reanimation_Handgrips.esp

UniqueThinkTank.esp

Animated Ingestibles.esp

NPCsSprint.esp

BraveNewWorld-ArmorReplacerChildNPCFix.esp

BraveNewWorld-CNR.esp

NevadaSkies.esp

JSawyer Ultimate.esp

JSawyer Ultimate - GRA Merged.esp

BraveNewWorld-JSU.esp

NVR2 - JSUE Patch.esp

Weightless Ammo-Script ver.esp

ExtraSPECIAL.esp

Limitless Stats.esp

WeightlessAmmo.esp

Weightless Stimpaks Reversal.esp

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

Functional Post Game Ending - YUP Patch.esp

[SirTwist]

Okay, a few things. First, use spoiler when listing mods. Helps keep things a little smaller and tidier in the forums. Should type it out, without spaces, [ spoiler ] [ /spoiler ] Will look like this:

[spolier} list of mods

 

One thing I noticed, you have these plugins, you really only need one:

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp, EVE FNV - NO GRA.esp, and EVE FNV - NO DLC.esp

The one you need is the first one. All the rest can be hidden. Vortex should have caught this. If this doesn't fix the game, then we have some work to do. But make sure you do NOT use all three of the above, just the first one. Also, compatibity patches that may include them for the other two.

Now for the real trouble shooting. What you want to do is, first and foremost, and easiest way I know of to trouble shoot in Vortex, is create a new profile. Name it test. Only run some mods to start with. YUP and patches, Robert's Males, Extra Special, weightless mods. Maybe a couple more. But the less is better. Get out the door from Doc Mitchell. Save. Exit game, and add in, one by one, each mod you want to use. Only exception to the one mod rule is patches. You want to install those when you need to. Then run the game. Once you are in, moving around, etc., exit, without saving, the game. Add another. Keep doing this until it doesn't work. Once you find the mod that stops your game, then you decide whether you want to keep it, or not. And move on.

[MintyFreshGandalf]

I have the latter two mods disabled, but they're still on my load order. Don't think they're the problem.

 

Hoo boy, I don't handle tedium well. I'll buck up and to it manually, but if there's any particular mod that's known to cause issues, I'd love to know which.

[SirTwist]

Okay, without knowing your set up, and what all you have, here is something to try before all of that. That is, with a new profile, and no mods, try running NVSE, and just getting to the main menu. That would help out. When you get there, open the console, and type this in, getNVSEversion. And that should give you a starting point. Switch to your main profile. I have a different idea to try first. Try, instead, just disabling one mod at time. Safe ones are things that either don't have a plugin, such as texture mods, NVSE plugins, and YUP, and some other mods. I would say disable something like WME and it's compabatility patches. From there, move to other mods. Some other "safe" mods are New Vegas Bounties, ExtraSpecial, and Robert's Male. Some of the others I am not sure of, but again, disable one mod, and see if the game starts. If not, try another. But not all your mods. And again, only one at a time, and try. When you get to where it starts, and you get into the game, exit out, and start with the first mod that you disabled, and start the game. If it works, then add in another, until you can't go in. The mod that keeps you from getting into the game is typically your culprit.

[M48A5]

You are trying to run too many files. I stopped counting at 136, which is the limit if you do not have the mod limit fix.

 

You need to actually read what you have installed. There are quite a few unnecessary and conflicting plugins being loaded. That is the reason you need to actually read what is being installed and to not install all the optional plugins if a mod has them.

 

Have you ever had the game start and run with no plugins? Or did you download your mods and then expect the game to run?

 

Additional information on how the get the game up and running can be found here: Fallout New Vegas - Nexus Mods Wiki

[gnarly1]

<snippity>

The Viva New Vegas guide contains most, if not all, the essential bug and engine fixes (plus some QoL enhancers) you should install to ensure you have a stable base on which to continue to mod the game.

 

It also includes a list of mods to avoid which is useful in order to avoid issues or at least be aware of them if you decide to still use those mods.

 

What M48A5 said above is essential advice - for example, you're using Functional Post Game Ending - Populated Casinos Patch but you're not using Populated Casinos.

[MintyFreshGandalf]

hey, thanks for all the responses! sorry for not responding earlier, I was asleep.

I do have the mod limit fix installed, and all the redundant mods I have on my load order are disabled (vortex doesn't let you manually delete plugins). I have already installed the latest version of NVSE, and read the viva new vegas guide in order to see which mods cause issues (prior to this I had project nevada, YUP, and lots of other very outdated mods.) I have tried running the game without any plugins, and it boots fine, which means the plugins are the problem. I'd done all this before, so I probably should have included it in the original post. as for right now, I'm going to disable most mods save the "safe" ones, and see if my game boots. let me know if there's anything else I can do!

[SirTwist]

You should merge some of your mods, still, to make them a little more compact. What you want to look for, it is a bit older, but still a wonderful tool, Merge Plugins by Mator the Eternal. That should help with lowering your mods, somewhat. And may help make your game a little more stable.

[MintyFreshGandalf]

alright, I've gone through many steps (updating old mods, removing unneeded mods, manually installing the mod fix...) and I have a new problem- instead of loading the title screen, I simply get a pink screen. I have no idea what could be causing this- I have a suspicion it's a mod (since when I purge the mods, this doesn't happen.) I'm going to try and do a clean install, reinstall the manual stuff, and deploy mods again to see if that fixes it. In the meantime, any advice would be appreciated.

[MintyFreshGandalf]

alright. I did a fresh install (following the gamerpoets guide for fnv) and am now back to square one, with the original problem described in the first post on this thread. However, on my troubleshooting profile (a copy of my current one, but with many mods disabled) does run, so I still think it's either a mod or the sheer volume of mods (which doesn't make sense, as my previous extremely unstable profile with many more outdated and broken mods worked just fine...). I'm going to keep turning on mods until one makes the game stick, then see if it's just that mod, or several. If anyone sees this, I have my load order below- if you see something that is indicative of a problem, please let me know.

 

# Automatically generated by Vortex

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

Asterra's Many Fixes.esp

BraveNewWorld.esm

New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

Simple Open Freeside.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

IWR.esm

New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esm

TLD_Travelers.esm

Tales from the Burning Sands.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

Simple Open Strip.esm

Weapon Mod Expansion.esm

A World of Pain Revised.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

Weapons of Our Millenia.esm

WME - GRA.esm

Frequency.esm

SomeguySeries.esm

WME - DLCs.esm

Operation Mirai - AR20 FAR.esm

Bionic Augmentation.esp

Cyberware.esm

NVR-Strip.esm

New Vegas Stories.esm

More Traits.esm

Companion Core.esm

RobCo Certified.esm

PHWHPAPVisuals.esm

D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

More Perks.esm

Logic and Consistency Fixes.esp

Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp

Economy Overhaul.esp

JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp

Immersive Primary Needs.esp

JustAssortedMods.esp

CPI Icons.esp

PerkPackPlus.esp

MeleeCleave.esp

Cyberware OWB.esp

BigEmptyDisharmony.esp

NVGustsyHandyAnimatedEyes.esp

Enhanced Vision.esp

FAFFNV.esp

Frequency - Dead Money Patch.esp

Fiendsfriend.esp

Integration - Couriers Stash.esp

Immersive Karma.esp

NCR Doggy Buddies.esp

ArmourRepairKits.esp

Vault_34_better_reactor.esp

NVR-Version_10.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Sniper Expanded.esp

NV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.esp

RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

More Perks Update.esp

AAM.esp

Casino Crowds.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp

CNR_Beta.esp

NVR2 - YUP Patch.esp

WME - GRA - Complete.esp

WME - GRA - All Weapons.esp

Weapon Mod Expansion.esp

WME - GRA - Just Guns.esp

WMEVE - All DLCs.esp

WME - DLCs Arenovalis.esp

WME - DLCs.esp

Frequency - Honest Hearts Patch.esp

WMEVE - No DLCs.esp.ghost

WMEVE - No GRA.esp.ghost

Frequency - WME Patch.esp

MigTeslaChain.esp

Frequency - Old World Blues Patch.esp

Little More Lamplight.esp

Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style).esp

IWR - Rebuilt.esp

Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp

BraveNewWorld-ArmorReplacerChildNPCFix.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

Better Burned Man.esp

ReElijahfied.esp

WME - GRA - Weapon Integration.esp

WME - GRA - Vendor Reform.esp

BraveNewWorld-FPGE.esp.ghost

Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

TheInheritance.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

Russell.esp

NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

BraveNewWorld-YUP.esp

NVR2 - BNW Patch.esp

BraveNewWorld-CNR.esp

chemsets.esp

FO3WeaponsRestoration.esp

ADAM Complete.esp

ADAM - MERGE.esp

SimpleSink.esp

NVR-NPCs.esp

Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp

WME - GRA - Unique Integration.esp

TheBetterAngels.esp

AutumnLeaves.esp

Combined Weapons.esp

AWOPR - Underpass Patch.esp

CourierRangerArmorV2.esp

Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

JoshuaFixUncutNewVegas.esp

Julie Farkas Says Take Care.esp

ArMOAR AP Armor.esp

Ownerless Trash with DLC.esp

NudeRay 1.3.esp

FourEyesDynamic.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Riot Gear Neck Cover.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

DeadMoneyRealisticGoldBarWeight_25pounds.esp

Explorer Perk Revised - Locations.esp

IMPACT.esp

WME - GRA - Arenovalis.esp

Existence 2.0.esp

Meltdown Medley.esp

FO3WeaponsRestorationRILForceOverride.esp

ExplosivesImmunityFix.esp

Missiles to Rockets.esp

Pickpocket Overhaul.esp

Diagonal movement.esp

Oxenloadscreens.esp

NPCs Can Miss.esp

RetrievableThrowables.esp

Explosive Sounds Overhaul.esp

RedGlare_SMMG_Tweaks_v1.2a.esp

ThrowableFixes.esp

LiveDismember.esp

Simple Explosive Entry.esp

Toxic Cloud Fix.esp

MigGaussFix.esp

hz_EV Tweaks.esp

PackRat FourThreshold QuarterWeight.esp

TripTrap.esp

UniqueThinkTank.esp

Animated Ingestibles.esp

NPCsSprint.esp

FourEyesBetter.esp.ghost

Frequency - WME Honest Hearts Patch.esp.ghost

Frequency - WMEVE Patch.esp.ghost

NV_STTraitsandPerks.esp.ghost

NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch.esp.ghost

NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch - NVSE.esp.ghost

NevadaSkies.esp

JSawyer Ultimate.esp

JSawyer Ultimate - GRA Merged.esp

BraveNewWorld-JSU.esp

NVR2 - JSUE Patch.esp

ExtraSPECIAL.esp

Limitless Stats.esp

WeightlessAmmo.esp

Weightless Stimpaks Reversal.esp

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp [/spoiler ]

Edited September 20, 2021 by MintyFreshGandalf