FO3 Mod Load Order Help [Unresponsive or Crashing]

[heldelance]

Hi everyone,

 

I'm having one of two problems after trying to mod Fallout 3 GOTY. Either the game will crash straight after the first slide ("Please Wait" I think), or it'll load up to the guy in Power Armour and just sit there. Music plays but the menu doesn't load and the game + keyboard is unresponsive.

 

The instant crash seems to happen when I tick the Merged Patch (labeled MP here). Otherwise, if it's not on, the game loads but doesn't do anything.

 

Here's my load order:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] xCALIBR.esm
[X] Project Beauty.esm
[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm
[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
[X] EVE.esm
[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] StreetLights.esm
[X] Companion Core.esm
[X] RobCo Certified v2.esm
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] EVE.esp
[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp
[X] RH_EVE_Bridge.esp
[X] RH_FWE_Bridge.esp
[X] RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp
[X] RH_WMK_Bridge.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] CRAFT - Workbench Replacement.esp
[X] Megaton Reborn.esp
[X] Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp
[X] BusworldV1.05d.esp
[X] CALIBRxMerchant.esp
[X] xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp
[X] xCALIBRammo_override.esp
[X] UndergroundHideout.esp
[X] GNR Enhanced.esp
[X] Megaton Reborn1.esp
[X] Companion Core DLC Addon.esp
[X] RobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.esp
[X] Sydney Follower.esp
[X] Sydney Follower - FWE Dialog Fix.esp
[X] Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp
[ ] MP.esp
[ ] RobCo Certified v2 Version Updater.esp
[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

If anyone could help me out, I'd much appreciate it.

[M48A5]

Streetlights should load between ThePItt.esm and BrokenSteel.esm Does the game run without mods? Did you load the game up with mods or add them one at a time? Are you using FOSE?

Is the game patched to Version 1.7? Do you have the latest GFWL file? Is the game installed outside "Program FIles"? Did you follow the instructions in FO3Edit Training Manual to make your merged patch? What is you operating system?

 

Some helpfull reading: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you/

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1465357-installing-fallout-3-with-windows-78-and-xp/

[heldelance]

I'm running on Win7 64 bit and I've never had a problem running from the progam files before (with this game that is).

 

I checked that the game was working before starting to add all the mods. If I disable all the mods, I get the CTD immediately. And yes, I'm running FOSE. I'll update GFWL and see if that works. I bought the game from Steam and as far as I can tell, it's kept up to date.

 

I also followed everything to the letter to get the merged patch.

[M48A5]

The game you buy from Steam is the same as the one you buy on a disc, without the disc. It still needs to be updated to version 1.7. Fallout 3 is not and never was a steam dependent game. Steam is only serving as a vendor for the game.

[heldelance]

Ok, I seem to have narrowed down the problem. I did a reinstall of everything, patch the game prior to installing mods. I tested the mods one by one before adding another.

 

The problem seems to be with 3 ESPs from the Fallout Interoperability Patch. Specifically these;

 

[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

 

If I have them ticked, the game loads to the power armour guy and does nothing. Unticked, it loads fine, cursors appear, the keyboard is responsive.

 

I've downloaded the latest FOIP patch for that and also the latest copy of FWE.

[heldelance]

Welp, figured out the problem. Turns out I have the newest version of EVE and the FOIP patch doesn't play with it. Downloaded the earlier version (.96?) and it's working. Thanks for the help mate.

[camycamera]

no, that's not it. you can use the latest version of EVE, turn on the EVE foip compatibility mod and download this:

 

http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/15961//?

 

it fixes the no cursor problem.