Werne Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Well, I know C2D CPUs aren't that great nowadays, and DDR2 has been replaced with DDR3, which will in turn be replaced by DDR4. I know my PC can't measure up to any of those, but I'm wondering how far did it fall behind. While I'd be happier with buying a new PC, the components are quite expensive around here while incomes are rather pathetic, so I've been thinking of just upgrading the graphics card and leaving the rest (meaning CPU and mobo) as-is, if it's actually worth anything. The components I have at the moment are as follows (ugh, this is gonna be a long one so I'll just put it in a spoiler): debian-lxde description: Desktop Computer product: System Product Name (To Be Filled By O.E.M.) vendor: System manufacturer version: System Version serial: System Serial Number width: 32 bits capabilities: smbios-2.5 dmi-2.5 smp-1.4 smp configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop cpus=2 family=To Be Filled By O.E.M. sku=To Be Filled By O.E.M. uuid=C023B23C-DAB8-DE11-9CAF-90E6BAC94536 *-core description: Motherboard product: P5KPL-AM IN/ROEM/SI vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC. physical id: 0 version: X.0x serial: MT7099K31903058 slot: To Be Filled By O.E.M. *-firmware description: BIOS vendor: American Megatrends Inc. physical id: 0 version: 0503 date: 09/14/2009 size: 64KiB capacity: 960KiB capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification *-cpu:0 description: CPU product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 4 bus info: cpu@0 version: 6.15.13 serial: 0000-06FD-0000-0000-0000-0000 slot: Socket 775 size: 1200MHz capacity: 3800MHz width: 64 bits clock: 273MHz capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dtherm cpufreq configuration: id=1 *-cache:0 description: L1 cache physical id: 5 slot: L1-Cache size: 64KiB capacity: 64KiB capabilities: internal write-back data *-cache:1 description: L2 cache physical id: 6 slot: L2-Cache size: 2MiB capacity: 2MiB capabilities: internal write-back instruction *-logicalcpu:0 description: Logical CPU physical id: 1.1 width: 64 bits capabilities: logical *-logicalcpu:1 description: Logical CPU physical id: 1.2 width: 64 bits capabilities: logical *-memory description: System Memory physical id: 22 slot: System board or motherboard size: 2GiB *-bank:0 description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns) product: PartNum0 vendor: Manufacturer0 physical id: 0 serial: SerNum0 slot: DIMM A1 size: 1GiB width: 64 bits clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) *-bank:1 description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns) product: PartNum1 vendor: Manufacturer1 physical id: 1 serial: SerNum1 slot: DIMM B1 size: 1GiB width: 64 bits clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) *-cpu:1 physical id: 1 bus info: cpu@1 version: 6.15.13 serial: 0000-06FD-0000-0000-0000-0000 size: 1200MHz capacity: 1200MHz capabilities: ht cpufreq configuration: id=1 *-logicalcpu:0 description: Logical CPU physical id: 1.1 capabilities: logical *-logicalcpu:1 description: Logical CPU physical id: 1.2 capabilities: logical *-pci description: Host bridge product: 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 100 bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0 version: 10 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0 version: 10 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:40 ioport:d000(size=4096) memory:fe900000-fe9fffff ioport:e0000000(size=268435456) *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0 version: 00 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0 resources: irq:46 memory:e0000000-efffffff memory:fe9e0000-fe9effff ioport:d000(size=256) memory:fe9c0000-fe9dffff *-multimedia description: Audio device product: RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI physical id: 0.1 bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1 version: 00 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0 resources: irq:45 memory:fe9fc000-fe9fffff *-multimedia description: Audio device product: NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1b bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0 version: 01 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0 resources: irq:44 memory:fe8fc000-fe8fffff *-pci:1 description: PCI bridge product: NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1c bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:41 ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:80200000-803fffff ioport:80400000(size=2097152) *-pci:2 description: PCI bridge product: NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 2 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1c.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.1 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:42 ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:fea00000-feafffff ioport:80000000(size=2097152) *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 01 serial: 90:e6:ba:c9:45:36 size: 10Mbit/s capacity: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm vpd msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s resources: irq:43 ioport:e800(size=256) memory:feaff000-feafffff memory:feac0000-feadffff *-usb:0 description: USB controller product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:23 ioport:c480(size=32) *-usb:1 description: USB controller product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:19 ioport:c800(size=32) *-usb:2 description: USB controller product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.2 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:18 ioport:c880(size=32) *-usb:3 description: USB controller product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.3 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.3 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:16 ioport:cc00(size=32) *-usb:4 description: USB controller product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.7 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:23 memory:fe8fbc00-fe8fbfff *-pci:3 description: PCI bridge product: 82801 PCI Bridge vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1e bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0 version: e1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list resources: memory:feb00000-febfffff *-network description: Wireless interface product: AR9227 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Atheros Communications Inc. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0 logical name: wlan0 version: 01 serial: a0:f3:c1:87:0f:7b width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath9k driverversion=3.2.0-4-686-pae firmware=N/A ip=192.168.1.5 latency=168 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn resources: irq:20 memory:febf0000-febfffff *-isa description: ISA bridge product: 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 *-ide:0 description: IDE interface product: 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: ide bus_master configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0 resources: irq:18 ioport:1f0(size=:cool: ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=:cool: ioport:376 ioport:ffa0(size=16) *-ide:1 description: IDE interface product: NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.2 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2 logical name: scsi2 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list emulated configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0 resources: irq:19 ioport:c400(size=:cool: ioport:c080(size=4) ioport:c000(size=:cool: ioport:bc00(size=4) ioport:b880(size=16) *-disk:0 description: ATA Disk product: ST3250318AS vendor: Seagate physical id: 0.0.0 bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/sda version: CC38 serial: 9VMAMALK size: 232GiB (250GB) capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=d5ad5be3 *-volume:0 description: EXT4 volume vendor: Linux physical id: 1 bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1 logical name: /dev/sda1 logical name: /media/home version: 1.0 serial: bbdb3193-d49f-4469-afea-ac85bf043227 size: 219GiB capacity: 219GiB capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration: created=2013-07-22 16:08:46 filesystem=ext4 label=home lastmountpoint=/home modified=2013-08-10 16:55:21 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2013-08-10 16:55:21 state=mounted *-volume:1 description: EXT4 volume vendor: Linux physical id: 2 bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2 logical name: /dev/sda2 logical name: /media/Debian GNOME version: 1.0 serial: 32564f60-4062-467b-b598-884071d5307c size: 10GiB capacity: 10GiB capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration: created=2013-07-24 17:52:44 filesystem=ext4 label=Debian GNOME lastmountpoint=/ modified=2013-08-10 18:54:04 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2013-08-10 18:54:04 state=mounted *-volume:2 description: Linux swap volume physical id: 3 bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,3 logical name: /dev/sda3 version: 1 serial: 640f5290-7c1b-4ff4-af01-9669ef36a6df size: 2049MiB capacity: 2049MiB capabilities: primary nofs swap initialized configuration: filesystem=swap pagesize=4096 *-disk:1 description: ATA Disk product: Hitachi HDT72103 vendor: Hitachi physical id: 0.1.0 bus info: scsi@2:0.1.0 logical name: /dev/sdb version: ST2O serial: STF202ML367TLP size: 298GiB (320GB) capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=000d00f1 *-volume:0 description: EXT4 volume vendor: Linux physical id: 1 bus info: scsi@2:0.1.0,1 logical name: /dev/sdb1 logical name: /home version: 1.0 serial: aad17a10-c4c7-4216-a16b-a3686b49bab7 size: 279GiB capacity: 279GiB capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration: created=2013-08-08 20:27:24 filesystem=ext4 label=games-home lastmountpoint=/home modified=2013-08-10 16:54:57 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2013-08-10 16:54:57 state=mounted *-volume:1 description: EXT4 volume vendor: Linux physical id: 2 bus info: scsi@2:0.1.0,2 logical name: /dev/sdb2 logical name: / version: 1.0 serial: 6afa5fe3-9e5c-493e-965b-0f547017fff4 size: 16GiB capacity: 16GiB capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration: created=2013-08-08 20:27:28 filesystem=ext4 label=Debian LXDE lastmountpoint=/ modified=2013-08-10 16:54:56 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2013-08-10 16:54:56 state=mounted *-volume:2 description: Linux swap volume physical id: 3 bus info: scsi@2:0.1.0,3 logical name: /dev/sdb3 version: 1 serial: 5e7d5acf-c177-494e-bd06-1ddb2d9bbc81 size: 1880MiB capacity: 1880MiB capabilities: primary nofs swap initialized configuration: filesystem=swap pagesize=4096 *-serial description: SMBus product: NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.3 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz configuration: driver=i801_smbus latency=0 resources: irq:19 ioport:400(size=32) Ignore the fact that my HDDs are shown as PATA, they are in fact SATA but my BIOS is stupid. The CPU is a Core 2 Duo E4500 with a stock frequency of 2.20GHz and two threads, 11x multiplier with a stock FSB frequency of 200MHz. The FSB has been raised to 273MHz with the CPU reaching the frequency of 3.0GHz, it can go to 275MHz but anything over that makes problems. I'm not actually too knowledgable about RAM though, my guess is 1.2 nanoseconds is good (?) but 2GB isn't and I know that much, so I'm thinking of expanding that to 4, or preferably 8GB. DDR3 would require a new mobo which would require a new CPU and then I might as well change the whole damn thing. In case the above is worth something, I'll swap out my Radeon HD 4350 with a GAINWARD Nvidia GeForce 650, 1GB GDDR5 VRAM, which I think is pretty decent and it's also the best graphics card I can afford for that kind of money around here. Got some money selling old crap, not much but enough for a new graphics card or another budget PC. The games I intend to play are not that CPU demanding (well, they chill at 40% CPU usage, reaching 63% tops). You know, Fallout 3, New Vegas, that sort of thing. Even Skyrim doesn't use 100% of it, ME3 comes close though. I'm hoping to be able to run FO4 once it comes out, I'd be perfectly happy with 26FPS and less but more wouldn't hurt. So, seeing as how the current hardware will support the games I play at the moment, for how long do you guys think I'll be able to drag this old CPU before it becomes completely useless? How long until the games run it over completely and it wouldn't be able to run them? And finally, is this hunk of metal I call a PC actually useful anymore, or is it already a museum exhibit? Those are the things I'd like to know, please be gentle and try not to laugh at it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccddd123 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Fallout 4 will most likely be relased for next-gen gaming (xbox one and the like)...that means your chances of being able to run it are small. Even if you can, it will be trash. I've had a pathetic pc (far worse than yours) for...8 years or something. At the beginning you think "oh well, 20 fps isn't that bad" but after a while it really starts to affect your patience. If you can afford an i7 processor, buy it. Even i5 is too slow for me, i want everything now now fast fast. Also, if you're buying new ram, yes. DDR3 is the way. I sit at 1600Mhz dual channel (that means, you buy a motherboard compatible with dual-channel RAM that can support that ram speed or 1333 is fine too) i personally have 8gb ram (2 x 4gb) and everything runs very smoothly. I built my pc with months of researching cost-efficiency so if it helps at all, here it is: Video: Radeon HD 7770 (it's very similar in performance to the one you want to buy) Processor: Intel i7 2660k (when i bought it, it was the fastest. Now it's i7 3370k or something) Motherboard: GA-Z77M-D3H (from Gygabite. It's actually cheap and supports 8 ram slots, 2 video card slots and all that stuff) RAM: XJAWS ( yea, something like that. 2 x 4 gb running at 1600Mhz) hard disk doesn't matter. Just try to avoid 1tb ones. They don't really work well... for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Your PC is pretty much a brick for new games, no offense. You'd be better off selling it and putting the cash towards something new. 2GB of DDR2 is virtually useless for upper-end games now, and it probably won't even hit minimum settings this time next year. Same for the CPU and video card. If you can't upgrade due to the expense, I recommend getting at least 4GB of RAM total, plus the 650. The RAM should be relatively cheap anywhere. A GTX 650 is a reasonably good mid-range card, but it's honestly a bit of a waste with your other parts. These aren't recommendations, but I am going to list my specs. I plan on competing directly with the PS4, and beating it once I add another video card. All things together, it cost me about $1000, but I could have gotten it for $700 or less if I'd been more experienced when I started building it. RAM: 8GB DDR3 Ripjaw RAM, at 1600MhzCPU: AMD Phenom II 955 Quad Core, at 3.2GhzPSU: Antec Earthwatt modular 750wGPU: GTX 660 GC 2GB GDDR5, with a core clock at 1GhzHDD: 1TB Hitachi model at 7.2Ghz Edited August 11, 2013 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalikka Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Fallout 4 will most likely be relased for next-gen gaming (xbox one and the like)...that means your chances of being able to run it are small. Even if you can, it will be trash. I've had a pathetic pc (far worse than yours) for...8 years or something. At the beginning you think "oh well, 20 fps isn't that bad" but after a while it really starts to affect your patience. If you can afford an i7 processor, buy it. Even i5 is too slow for me, i want everything now now fast fast. Also, if you're buying new ram, yes. DDR3 is the way. I sit at 1600Mhz dual channel (that means, you buy a motherboard compatible with dual-channel RAM that can support that ram speed or 1333 is fine too) i personally have 8gb ram (2 x 4gb) and everything runs very smoothly. I built my pc with months of researching cost-efficiency so if it helps at all, here it is: Video: Radeon HD 7770 (it's very similar in performance to the one you want to buy) Processor: Intel i7 2660k (when i bought it, it was the fastest. Now it's i7 3370k or something) Motherboard: GA-Z77M-D3H (from Gygabite. It's actually cheap and supports 8 ram slots, 2 video card slots and all that stuff) RAM: XJAWS ( yea, something like that. 2 x 4 gb running at 1600Mhz) hard disk doesn't matter. Just try to avoid 1tb ones. They don't really work well... for me.Wait... What are you talking about? I5 and i7 are identical in performance with the current game generation.You can also get Xeon 1230v2 or v3 to get the best "bang for buck" if you do something that benefits from HT. It's basically 3770k/4770k without iGPU and can't be OC'd, but costs 100 less.And 4670k/4770k/1230v3 are the newest CPUs, new cpu generation (haswell) and mobo socket (1150, z87/h87/etc.) were released this year. I see no sense in putting hd7770 on 2600k rig... 2600k can run 2 titans without bottlenecking... Edited August 11, 2013 by kalikka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I think it's time to bite the bullet and replace it, this time next year you won't be able to play any of the new releases. A newish i5 along with 8-12GB of RAM should do you, the new consoles will be making greater use of the GPU so that's where you'll want to spend the money. You'll need a 64bit OS as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindekarr Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Bite the bullet? that monstrosity needs a bullet in the casing! It's time to get a new PC. http://i.ebayimg.com/14/!CF7by9gEGk~$(KGrHqQOKpEE0WD9-hRvBN(CTLu+og~~_35.JPG?set_id=8800005007 This is about all a core-2 duo based system will run.It's a darn good game but it's hardly complicated graphicalsoftware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werne Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah, I had a feeling I'd just have to replace my PC, I wish it weren't so. Won't be assembling it out of new stuff this time around, now I'll look into buying used parts. Since the price of components around here is like they're made out of solid gold with diamonds, the Core i{3-7} stuff is out of the question. I'm thinking AMD this time, I may like Intel more when it comes to CPUs but they are far more expensive. With a budget of 500$ if I manage to sell this thing, I'm stretched pretty thin. *sigh* I hate electronics. :sad: If someone can suggest any cheap components that are actually worth anything, I'd be greatful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccddd123 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Fallout 4 will most likely be relased for next-gen gaming (xbox one and the like)...that means your chances of being able to run it are small. Even if you can, it will be trash. I've had a pathetic pc (far worse than yours) for...8 years or something. At the beginning you think "oh well, 20 fps isn't that bad" but after a while it really starts to affect your patience. If you can afford an i7 processor, buy it. Even i5 is too slow for me, i want everything now now fast fast. Also, if you're buying new ram, yes. DDR3 is the way. I sit at 1600Mhz dual channel (that means, you buy a motherboard compatible with dual-channel RAM that can support that ram speed or 1333 is fine too) i personally have 8gb ram (2 x 4gb) and everything runs very smoothly. I built my pc with months of researching cost-efficiency so if it helps at all, here it is: Video: Radeon HD 7770 (it's very similar in performance to the one you want to buy) Processor: Intel i7 2660k (when i bought it, it was the fastest. Now it's i7 3370k or something) Motherboard: GA-Z77M-D3H (from Gygabite. It's actually cheap and supports 8 ram slots, 2 video card slots and all that stuff) RAM: XJAWS ( yea, something like that. 2 x 4 gb running at 1600Mhz) hard disk doesn't matter. Just try to avoid 1tb ones. They don't really work well... for me.Wait... What are you talking about? I5 and i7 are identical in performance with the current game generation.You can also get Xeon 1230v2 or v3 to get the best "bang for buck" if you do something that benefits from HT. It's basically 3770k/4770k without iGPU and can't be OC'd, but costs 100 less.And 4670k/4770k/1230v3 are the newest CPUs, new cpu generation (haswell) and mobo socket (1150, z87/h87/etc.) were released this year. I see no sense in putting hd7770 on 2600k rig... 2600k can run 2 titans without bottlenecking... Opps i think i meant i3! Still new to intel processors anyway. Well yea...maybe i can run 2 titans but i don't really have the money for that....i couldbarely afford the 7770 last month..and then i was fired. SO..yeah. I DO plan to upgrade, tho. Thanks for taking the time to correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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