The Courier and the Divide

[charwo]

This may seem extraordinary. However, even though the Enclave is NOT the US government, they have the master lists of everything of the US government from 2077: every bunker, every silo, every base, and probably have up to the minute satellite imagery, and certainly all the master codes. They had no idea during the siege of Navarro it would be taken to the Divide per se, but the package would need a Ballistic Matrix Computer to unlock. As far as it being a trojan virus that couldn't be controlled isn't something the the NCR could have anticipated. Ther was probably a lot of very valuable hark hack intel at Navorro. But think less conspiracy and more of parting shot: some angry tech filled with a hatred of mutants annihilating the last of the United States of America.

 

The other explanation is this was a blind fire program. That doesn't make sense: even dead hand requires the local commanders to launch their missiles the old fashioned way. An automatic launch, as a opposed to an automatic authorization for launch is too Stangelove even for the most campy retro-future interpretations of the Fallout timeline. Maintaining a human hand on the atomic trigger is something we'd never relinquish: too much political risk otherwise.

[MarchUntoTorment]

I like it, I like it a lot. As a headcanon or WMG (depending on your parlance), it's very, very good.

 

Although I still prefer for it to be the Courier's personal mistake. Gives my Courier something to atone for.

[kkk122]

How are the two mutually exclusive?

[ZaySk]

So the Enclave made it in Navarro before it fell, so that the NCR would find it and when they eventually discover the Divide they would bomb themselves. That way the Enclave that escaped could come back and retake California. The plan wouldn't have to work quickly - they have waited since the Great War, they can wait some more. And who knows how many other deathtraps the Republic avoided in Navarro? As far as conspiracy theories go, I'd say it's pretty good.

No. Just no.

Edited April 6, 2014 by ZaySk

[MarchUntoTorment]

 

So the Enclave made it in Navarro before it fell, so that the NCR would find it and when they eventually discover the Divide they would bomb themselves. That way the Enclave that escaped could come back and retake California. The plan wouldn't have to work quickly - they have waited since the Great War, they can wait some more. And who knows how many other deathtraps the Republic avoided in Navarro? As far as conspiracy theories go, I'd say it's pretty good.

No. Just no.

 

 

...Going to elaborate on that statement?

[XTgrndr]

I think the silos were fully functional, as you open the launch bay doors on one of them yourself about halfway through and accidentally launch the missile by doing so.

 

And later on, you have the option of launching a massive strike against the side that offends you most (I chose the Legion).

 

There is also some information about advanced technology somewhere in the Divide, as it scans ED-E from a great distance and recreates him exactly, even to the point of having the same memories.

 

So given this incredible feat of construction, it's not unlikely that the same machines who copied ED-E were capable of maintaining the missiles in a functional state all this time.

 

 

I think the device the Courier delivered was some kind of homing beacon, possibly designed to be planted in enemy terrority to provide a target site for the missiles to strike.

It was just unfortunate someone sent it to the Divide and didn't realize what would happen when it was activated.

 

Or maybe they did know and wanted to destroy the community there for some reason.

 

 

And yes, Ulysses was one big nutjob.

Christine Royce even says something like this to him.

I was surprised that he bothered to rescue her, but I suspect he did it for practical reasons, he needed information and she had some.

I elected to eliminate him anyway, a man like him could only be problematic later if you let him walk away.

Besides, my Courier had a habit of eliminating anyone who supported the Legion's cause and even if Ulysses wasn't a full supporter, he still had links to them in some way.

[Numbnumb]

I just tried Lonesome Road and found that Ulysses' is indistructible. Nothing seems to harm him. I also tried the Midnight Drive-in but the conversations at the beginning of all of it sounded like the dialogue was written by third graders. Oh Well. I am just a grumpy old man so pay me no mind. The basic game is well done.

But the dialogue with Ulysses' was disturbing and didn't seem to match my character at all.

[SayinNuthin]

I just tried Lonesome Road and found that Ulysses' is indistructible. Nothing seems to harm him. I also tried the Midnight Drive-in but the conversations at the beginning of all of it sounded like the dialogue was written by third graders. Oh Well. I am just a grumpy old man so pay me no mind. The basic game is well done.

But the dialogue with Ulysses' was disturbing and didn't seem to match my character at all.

 

I didn't find him indestructible, probably 'cos I habitually pack a God-weapon for when I get peeved an he sure as hell got on my wick with all his ranting that didn't EVER give you the option of saying 'Just shut up man, I'm going to find you and kill you, OK'.

Completely agree about the OWB comedy routine too, the person responsible thinks being a fan of John Cleese somehow equates having some of his comic genius... Wrong. But you didn't miss much you couldn't get reading the story on wiki. Chasing around the map for a bunch of chips for personality devices that you would probably unplug after 2 minutes and spending a load of ammo on absurdly superbuffed metal scorpions.. Went back to a pre-start save, never finished it, never returned.

 

So that's two grumpy old men here...

[peadar1987]

I played with a damage multiplier mod that really improved my enjoyment of OWB and LR. At 3x damage, you don't need to unload an entire clip into an OWB nightstalker to slow it down. But if it catches you, you're in huge trouble. Makes the game a lot more interesting.

 

That said, I did enjoy the humour in OWB. Probably just a personal difference in taste, I can see how it would be annoying for some people.

[blaze1514]

I think the silos were fully functional, as you open the launch bay doors on one of them yourself about halfway through and accidentally launch the missile by doing so.

 

And later on, you have the option of launching a massive strike against the side that offends you most (I chose the Legion).

 

There is also some information about advanced technology somewhere in the Divide, as it scans ED-E from a great distance and recreates him exactly, even to the point of having the same memories.

 

So given this incredible feat of construction, it's not unlikely that the same machines who copied ED-E were capable of maintaining the missiles in a functional state all this time.

 

 

I think the device the Courier delivered was some kind of homing beacon, possibly designed to be planted in enemy terrority to provide a target site for the missiles to strike.

It was just unfortunate someone sent it to the Divide and didn't realize what would happen when it was activated.

 

Or maybe they did know and wanted to destroy the community there for some reason.

 

 

And yes, Ulysses was one big nutjob.

Christine Royce even says something like this to him.

I was surprised that he bothered to rescue her, but I suspect he did it for practical reasons, he needed information and she had some.

I elected to eliminate him anyway, a man like him could only be problematic later if you let him walk away.

Besides, my Courier had a habit of eliminating anyone who supported the Legion's cause and even if Ulysses wasn't a full supporter, he still had links to them in some way.

That is what I have thought.... it was a targeting beacon. Maybe it was supposed to be used by a general or commander as a last resort trap (sort of like the TC End War video where the general targets himself). It had the same markings as the Hopeville silo's because that is the facility that was tied to it. And then after it was delivered it eventually got too someone curious enough to turn it on. Then the targeting devices on the warheads realized they were already in range of the device, and simply exploded.