Do Aliens Exist: The Great Debate

[Lisnpuppy]

 

Even things like weak electromagnetic fields can effect what we experience. Like the "God Helmet" and I even saw an article about people that experience night paralysis/alien abduction where they feel fully awake and can't move...there is a dark malevolent presence in the room or over top them. I had this happen to me many, many times. When I saw the article that proposed this may happen from weak fields even from clocks and radios I moved my alarm clock/radio away from my nightstand...it never happened again. So who knows. Folks experience things for many reasons and they truly believe what they say...but that doesn't mean that is what it is.

Also attributed to succubi, incubi, vampires, and any number of similar creatures. It is a common thing among all cultures and commonly present in the folklore. However, being attributed to aliens (including accounts of what happened) only occurred in modern times. Sleep paralysis itself is a natural phenomenon that is caused by being partially woken in a stage between REM sleep, where movement becomes blocked by the brain in order to prevent damage to the body during REM sleep. The feelings of malevolence come from the panic from being unable to move, the confusion of being woken up, and whatever lingering sentiments might exist from what you were dreaming about. Nevermind the part where you usually have to actually be awake for several minutes before you have any memory of being awake due to how short term memory works.

 

Not to mention the fact that I have had 55 operations where I have been put under....well weird things happen.

[rizon72]

If I was an advanced race, doing such abductions, I would do it so the locals could easily explain it away. So they use the explanation of 'sleep paralysis as a cover for their activities. As such, they know our 'scientists' will never look into it seriously. Its a perfect cover.

[Vagrant0]

If I was an advanced race, doing such abductions, I would do it so the locals could easily explain it away. So they use the explanation of 'sleep paralysis as a cover for their activities. As such, they know our 'scientists' will never look into it seriously. Its a perfect cover.

At that point, why not just take those affected by drugs, mentally infirm, or just young children since they wouldn't be able to explain what happened or necessarily remember. Or destitute and transitory persons who could be abducted and studied over long term without anyone even noticing. There are a great number of people who could be taken at any moment with minimal evidence, but instead it ends up being some random individual living in suburbia who then obsesses over their "visitation", and writes a book about their alien second husband and 3 half-breed children. Seems like an arse-backward methodology to me.

[rizon72]

 

If I was an advanced race, doing such abductions, I would do it so the locals could easily explain it away. So they use the explanation of 'sleep paralysis as a cover for their activities. As such, they know our 'scientists' will never look into it seriously. Its a perfect cover.

At that point, why not just take those affected by drugs, mentally infirm, or just young children since they wouldn't be able to explain what happened or necessarily remember. Or destitute and transitory persons who could be abducted and studied over long term without anyone even noticing. There are a great number of people who could be taken at any moment with minimal evidence, but instead it ends up being some random individual living in suburbia who then obsesses over their "visitation", and writes a book about their alien second husband and 3 half-breed children. Seems like an arse-backward methodology to me.

 

If you are studying something, don't you want to study the healthy specimens?

I also didn't say all were alien abductions, but if you disguise it how can we tell the difference between sleep paralysis and an abduction?

Edited August 20, 2013 by rizon72

[bben46]

 

but if you disguise it how can we tell the difference between sleep paralysis and an abduction?

You are back to trying to prove a negative. In that you are 'assuming' there is a difference between the two.

 

So it could be expressed as : They are both the same, but one is different? :pinch:

IF there is no way to tell the difference - Maybe there is no difference. In that case ALL sleep paralysis is caused by aliens. Or None is caused by aliens. :blush:

[Vagrant0]

 

If you are studying something, don't you want to study the healthy specimens?

I also didn't say all were alien abductions, but if you disguise it how can we tell the difference between sleep paralysis and an abduction?

 

There are plenty healthy destitute persons out there thanks to the housing crisis. Many may arguably even be more healthy than the average. Even then, there are certainly other ways to disguise things through the usage of cults, interns, or faux medical studies just for the cost of bringing in some morally corrupt human into the plan and giving that human a supply of rare metals (plentiful in space) or similar which can be quickly exchanged for human currency.

 

Irregardless, even if you were doing an indepth study on the species, you wouldn't need to collect more than a few dozen genetic samples before you could just clone all the humans you'd ever need. Even without cloning, you wouldn't need to abduct very many humans before you had cataloged their entire physiology and taken samples of every type of bacteria that might inhabit their bowels.

 

 

Point being, if you were trying to examine human specimens, there are far easier ways than to zap them in some beam of light, paralyze them, steal them away from inside their homes, wipe their memory, and return them where they were as if nothing happened. Ways which leave less evidence or atleast less consequential evidence.

[Thor.]

OMG cats are aliens. I thought they where different, but aliens :dry:

 

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/are-cats-spies-sent-by-aliens-motherboard-examines-a-favorite-internet-conspiracy-theory

Edited August 20, 2013 by Thor.

[rizon72]

I can't begin to explain why an alien race might study us, or their technique. If they are hundreds, thousands or even millions of years more advanced than us, than the question of why they do something could very well be beyond our scope of understanding.

[HeyYou]

For the same reason we study insects.

[rizon72]

Or we are a lab experiment, they are trying to create intelligent life.