ThetaOrionis01 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Come again? It's certainly my concern if I'm the father. I'm afraid I disagree completely. The father's few-second-spurt involvement (reducing it to the biologically relevant part) does not even remotely compare to the 9 months of gestation and the physiological and psychological changes the mother will have to endure. Nor, in my opinion, does it give the father the right to tell the mother what to do with her own body. She accepted that risk by engaging in sexual intercourse. It was her choice. An easy statement to make for someone who will not have to suffer any of the risks or inconveniences of pregnancy. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Theta Orionis Posted Yesterday, 10:44 AM An easy statement to make for someone who will not have to suffer any of the risks or inconveniences of pregnancy. When you come down to it, the choice of abortion in the end is up to the woman who is pregnant. That in the act of having sex, and thereby becoming pregnant it is her choice to have the baby. It's that simple, if she's the one who's going to give birth, then shouldn't the decision rest solely on her shoulders, and no one else? Unless their are extraordinary reasons in which she (the woman giving birth) cannot make a decsion for herself (if she is not coherent or otherwise) then should the decision be made for her by someone who knows her mind best. It's nice for Matt to want ot have the baby and be a father, even if the woman doesn't want the baby. But when he states that it was the woman's choice (when engaging in sexual intercourse) to run the risk of dying while giving birth, he couldn't be more wrong. Sex (rape and other aside), requires two people making a choice. It's not just up to the woman making the choice, the man makes a choice too when he participates in the act with her. Women cannot "decide" to get pregnant, they can decide whether or not to use protection (as can the other side) and accept the possible risks of not using protection, but they do not make this "choice" to get pregnant. Both people run the risks, the man impregnating the woman and the woman being impregnated by the man. It goes both ways, not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 The whole abortions should be allowed only in rape thing doesn't make sense... They can still be put up for adoption.. Me personally... I'm not for or against abortion.. But, as far as it goes... I personally wouldn't support an amendment banning it.. Ban abortion we have clothes hangers and child abuse. If people didn't want children and didn't want to go through with child birth... They'd abort the fetus one way or another... But what if they can't? And what if they're a lost teen? They may not put the child up for adoption because of they're mentality at the time... They're pregnant with a child they don't want... They aren't thinking straight.. Afterwards they're stuck with a child they do not want.. Which could mean alot of pain for the child. Not to mention if a family is finacally unable to raise a child... Hunger is a horrid thing. But in a civilized world, they're should be no room for abortion.. People should be able to face what they did in the past and live with it... But not all people can, that's the sad truth. In this country we need many more programs to help people like this(the one's without the money to raise a child) just so the child can get the best this world has to offer.. I know it sounds as if I'm screaming out "MORE WELFARE!", though that would help... We have to have ways to support pregnant women(and teens) so the word abortion doesn't cross they're mind... Adoption is a program like such... But women get stuck with children they don't want alot which shows they don't consider it... And adoption could do some horrid mental damage to a kid... Who has to go through life knowing his/her biological parents didn't want them... I know that feeling, I've been through something simulaur... I'm just saying we need to make abortion a thing of the past and give single/teen mothers another chance to raise their child on their own.. So that child can get the best nurishment and education... We're the richest country in the world... If we can't do this for our children... And four our children with children... What does that say for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morbid_Pathologist Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I feel that abortions should be allowed on the womans decision, if she wants to go through one, then she can, the same thing happenned to a close friend of mine, she got quite drunk one night, not long after she found out she was pregnant, then november last year she went through with an abortion.Now, she is only 15, and made this decision on her own, her dad completely ignores her now, her mum is disappointed, and the only person who treats her like family are her friends, now that you think about it, it also affects the family situation strongly. But abortion's have to be considered in may different perspectives, age affecting the end result the most, if it were a 30 year old woman then its completely different, but if its someone "underage" then its also completely different, i like to think that we shouldnt make their decisions, they should. also with the girl i know, you cant even mention children infront of her, or she'll just freeze and completely change, so abortions affect the "victim" mentally too, as many (if not, all) of you have already stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 First of all I would like to ask how many chromosomes does it take to make a human? If you say 46 then you're right. That is how scientists genetically separate humans from any other species on earth. How man Chromosomes does a fetis have in its DNA? 46!!!! Wait, if it takes 46 to make human, then that means that that fetis is not just a bunch of tissue floating around ; however, it makes it human. So that must mean, that docters kill babies before they get out of the womb. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WOMEN WHO HAVE ABORTIONS, AND SHAME UPON THE MEN WHO THINK IT RIGHT!!!!!! HAVE A NICE DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThetaOrionis01 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Oh, and don't forget to denounce and damn to hell nature (or if you don't believe in nature, god), for all the miscarriages, and failures of the embryo to implant, and all the many other things that can go wrong during a pregnancy :rolleyes: It's always so refreshing to get the opinion of the completely ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I blame not God for miscarriges. I blame him for nothing. What happens NATURALLY happens. it is no one's fault. It is so quaint to get a point from an ignoramous HAVE A NICE DAY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 It's kind of difficult for people to have a nice day when you keep flaming them. :tongue2: Please take a look at the rules, I linked to them in the other thread you broke the rules in just now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThetaOrionis01 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 It's spelled 'ignoramus', actually. :rolleyes: And looking at some of your posts, I'm giving you a warning: use a less abusive tone in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 To the moderators. I ask that you would excuse my "flaming." I wrote the replies right after another. Thanks for the mispelling. I did not think I had gotten that one correctly spelled. have a nice day :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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