HeyYou Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 @kvnchrist You say It wouldn't be the first time people on the extreme left or right have used children to push a political agenda, yet you uploading and reposting the actual image on this forum thread puts you at just as much at fault for the exploitation of this child, agenda or not...How so? He is posting an image, and inviting debate. Would it have been better to simply link to the image? Or what? This isn't the first example of children announcing their sexual preferences..... how abut the six year old wanting to be a girl? Identifying as such, and wanting to use the girls restroom, etc.? I may not be paying enough attention, but, I have only really seen this happening here in the states...... have we become so liberal, and deluded... that we think kids even have a clue about this type of thing? At this childs age, he has zero interest in women/girls. I can see how that might lead him to believe that he is gay...... and like someone else previously mentioned, wonder if that is still going to hold true in 5 or 6 years. Will he suddenly discover that he is straight? Parents exploit children. Not all of them, but, enough of them to make it noticeable in american society. Politicians do it on a regular basis. (and they aren't even their kids....) Parents do it as well. (Jean Benet-Ramsey anyone?) Look at some of the crap on television, if that isn't child exploitation, I will eat my hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) @HeyYou My point is the debate could have easily been created without actually soliciting the actual picture of the child. Edited October 8, 2013 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 @HeyYou My point is the debate could have easily been created without actually soliciting the actual picture of the child. The picture is central to the debate, I don't see how embedding it is any different to linking to it. If anyone is exploiting the child it's the parents, knowingly or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 @jim_uk Reposting and/or linking to a picture which exploits a child is in itself exploiting a child. A simple explanation or description could have easily been made instead. If I started a debate about a picture of a child having sex with an animal that I saw on facebook with some shocking caption being endorsed by their parent, I wouldn't re-upload and post the picture again. I would simply just make a simple description and quote the shocking caption. kvnchrist might not have meant to in a malicious manner, but by re-uploading and posting the actual image again is perpetually exploiting this child... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I think you are stretching the point there colour. :) But, that isn't what the debate is about. Lets just stick to the point, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvnchrist Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 @kvnchrist You say It wouldn't be the first time people on the extreme left or right have used children to push a political agenda, yet you uploading and reposting the actual image on this forum thread puts you at just as much at fault for the exploitation of this child, agenda or not...I don't respond to red herrings. This is a debate forum and it was placed here to debate the issue. If you wish to debate the topic, please do so. The picture, as I've said was posted on Facebook, which is by far a more widely read media source than a gaming forum. I will ignore any other attempts at derailment. Thank you and have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Okay, so now I'm confused. Do you want to talk about whether the parents were oversharing, and whether or not it's acceptable to use children for activism? Or do you really want to hold a debate about what the kid's sexuality is? Because no matter how young he is, I guarantee he knows more about it than some rando on a Morrowind mods site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvnchrist Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Okay, so now I'm confused. Do you want to talk about whether the parents were oversharing, and whether or not it's acceptable to use children for activism? Or do you really want to hold a debate about what the kid's sexuality is? Because no matter how young he is, I guarantee he knows more about it than some rando on a Morrowind mods site.Please don't try to place the term over sharing as a straw man here. The intention of placing a child in the spotlight of political activism is as ludicrous as deeming them experienced enough in life to discern the complex world of affection. They don't have the life experiences to distinguish between liking someone and loving someone. Many adults have issues with this and have years more experience in dealing with such issues. No matter what a child says you need to acknowledge them and listen to them, but you don't carve what they say in stone because they don't have the mental discipline that comes in latter life. You should nurture your child to be the best person he or she can be. That includes their path to a loving and caring relationship with the person they will eventually pick. It doesn't matter the sex of the person they chose. It matters how they treat eachother. I've seen too many one sided relationships and this I guarantee you, my friend If the relationship isn't based on trust and respect for who each other is and there is no attempt at sacrificing for the other. Wither they are gay or strait it will not be a relationship, only two people living in the same house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanumoreira Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Sexuality is a sensitive subject that cannot be easily explained. When I was very young, around my days in preschool, I liked both boys and girls (I didn't know at the time what bisexuality was, and of course, what sex even was. But when I grew older, I realized that I was bisexual.) Sexuality is either something that you inherit (in which I did), can be influenced, or both. Yes, children are easily malleable, but adults don't give them as much credit as they should. If a five year old knows their own sexuality, then I think that this kid can decide for himself. Don't underestimate them. Edited October 9, 2013 by Keanumoreira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanumoreira Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) When I was 7 I had no idea even what gay was. I was too busy pretending that I'm Harry Potter and playing Crash Bandicot. I figured out that I'm gay at an early age, 11 or so when puberty hits, but never actually consciously realized it or knew that it had a term in itself. I thought that, you know, I liked guys, I had no idea that it's a big deal. Then a few years later, once I learned what homosexuality was and sexuality in general, I became panicked and anxious all the time, because it apparently WAS a big deal. That was around my 15's. I'm 18 now, out to my close family and friends, happily have a boyfriend and I love him. On the topic of bullying. One way or another, you will have emotional and mental pain. Being closeted means that you have to unwillingly live your day-to-day life with a mask on, nobody knows who you truly are and you're anxious about it all the time. It's like wearing a huge bag of stones with you everywhere you go. If you're outed, chances are you'll get bullied and left out, which is the same thing really just in a different way. And the only agenda that I'm planning is to get married and have a family. Class 1 taking over the world master plan isn't it? You know, the way I see it is that people are always going to have something about themselves that at least one other person is going to have a problem with. Whether you're gay, this political affiliation opposed to that one, an American or an Italian, man or woman; whatever it is, someone's going to have a bias or a nasty opinion about it. The world is like one big critic that can never be pleased. To be able to stand up to it, that's something that not everyone can do. Edited October 9, 2013 by Keanumoreira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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