HeyYou Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 |||||||||||||| See all those straight lines parallel to each other? Why can't post-apocalyptic survivors do that with pieces of wood?Well, they can't even make their own beds...... Driving nails? Notta chance. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoNin1971 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 |||||||||||||| See all those straight lines parallel to each other? Why can't post-apocalyptic survivors do that with pieces of wood?Well, they can't even make their own beds...... Driving nails? Notta chance. :D Yeah, the 'people' & world is an absolutely weird parallel universe or something.They have 0 hygiene, live on top of 200+ year corpses and debris (without cleaning an inch.) - (They do have impeccable health & immune systems, as they should all be dead by disease) As said, they build nothing beyond crappy shack's or thents with 200+ year old cloth (which disintegrated long ago, beyond the fallout universe) But somehow they can produce pre-war fine cloth(ing) & bullets...& all that with electricity available! I mean, seriously, let me repeat: these idiots have ELECTRICITY. EVERYWHERE!... They could easily have rebuild ... from day 1 ... (or worst case +25 years) Those cars where nuclear powered, they should all still work, like the rest of the radio's, elevators, heavy machine factories etc. or should at least have been able to provide power.Don't use EMP's as an argument, as the power grid would be most deadly to anything connected. Like radio's, elevators etc. (& they still work ...) Apparently civilization created maintenance free, everlasting factories, machines & power stations, and for 210 years people did NOTHING with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 |||||||||||||| See all those straight lines parallel to each other? Why can't post-apocalyptic survivors do that with pieces of wood?Well, they can't even make their own beds...... Driving nails? Notta chance. :D Yeah, the 'people' & world is an absolutely weird parallel universe or something.They have 0 hygiene, live on top of 200+ year corpses and debris (without cleaning an inch.) - (They do have impeccable health & immune systems, as they should all be dead by disease) As said, they build nothing beyond crappy shack's or thents with 200+ year old cloth (which disintegrated long ago, beyond the fallout universe) But somehow they can produce pre-war fine cloth(ing) & bullets...& all that with electricity available! I mean, seriously, let me repeat: these idiots have ELECTRICITY. EVERYWHERE!... They could easily have rebuild ... from day 1 ... (or worst case +25 years) Those cars where nuclear powered, they should all still work, like the rest of the radio's, elevators, heavy machine factories etc. or should at least have been able to provide power.Don't use EMP's as an argument, as the power grid would be most deadly to anything connected. Like radio's, elevators etc. (& they still work ...) Apparently civilization created maintenance free, everlasting factories, machines & power stations, and for 210 years people did NOTHING with it. Well, realistically, after 200 plus years, most of the buildings you see would be gone anyway.... without ANYONE doing ANY maintenance at all, you wouldn't be able to tell downtown boston from a federal game preserve...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraquar Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Lost in this is the technology needed to maintain (recreate) things.You wipe out the generation that was making the nuclear cars - and the previous generation has nothing to work off of to maintain them?You wipe out the information base - they have nothing to study to even try to replicate it.Think about this. Neil Young said this in one of my all-time favorite songs: "....The people worked togetherAnd they lifted many stonesAnd they carried them to the flatlandsBut they died along the wayAnd they built up with their bare handsWhat we still can't do today" Your frame of reference. 2,000 years later (not just 200) the most technologically advanced society the world has ever seen can't replicate some of the wonders made in the past. Edited May 26, 2023 by fraquar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoNin1971 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 That's just the thing.A lot of the infrastructure is still intact & the generation with the knowledge didn't get wiped out.Thanks to FEV many still even live. Albeit ghoulified. Many computer systems and networks still operate, so huge amounts of the pre-war information base is still available. As for 'ancient architects', we don't (always) know how they did it, therefor we can not replicate it the same way, besides logistical & financial challenges etc. in the modern world....but we can create anything they did & more, don't think for a second we can not build a pyramid or an aztec wall or a 'machu pichu'. We are just troubled to understand how they did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
363rdChemicalCompany Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 That's just the thing.A lot of the infrastructure is still intact & the generation with the knowledge didn't get wiped out.Thanks to FEV many still even live. Albeit ghoulified. Many computer systems and networks still operate, so huge amounts of the pre-war information base is still available. As for 'ancient architects', we don't (always) know how they did it, therefor we can not replicate it the same way, besides logistical & financial challenges etc. in the modern world....but we can create anything they did & more, don't think for a second we can not build a pyramid or an aztec wall or a 'machu pichu'. We are just troubled to understand how they did it. In 200 years humanity went from 1800s "technology" to 1950's technology.From hammers and windmills no steel, to, tanks, helicopters, nuclear weapons, nuclear power, computers WITHOUT a pre exisitng infrastructure and WITHOUT the knowledege sitting around staring them in the face. The only moderatly plausible explanation one could come up with, is the Institute holding everyhting back in the Commonwelth for generations what with its kidnappings of key personnel, its attacks on successful settlements injecting supermutans that smash and grab everything and the like.I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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