Hematoxylin Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 My Load Order First: 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm6 6 ccbgssse001-fish.esm254 FE 0 ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl254 FE 1 ccbgssse003-zombies.esl254 FE 2 ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl254 FE 3 ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl254 FE 4 ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl254 FE 5 ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl254 FE 6 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl254 FE 7 ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl254 FE 8 ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl254 FE 9 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl254 FE a ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl254 FE b ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl254 FE c ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl254 FE d ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl254 FE e ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl7 7 cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm8 8 cceejsse001-hstead.esm254 FE f ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl254 FE 10 ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl254 FE 11 ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl254 FE 12 ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl254 FE 13 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GLZ-ISC_Immersive_Armors_Asdasfa_patch.esp254 FE 8b OStim.esp254 FE 8c sweepingOrganizesStuff.esp254 FE 8d Frost Meshes Patch.esp44 2c HonedMetal.esp254 FE 8e Honed Metal Voiced.espDawnguard Delayed - Level 30.esp45 2d Dragonborn Delayed - After Elder Knowledge.esp46 2e UIExtensions.esp47 2f AddItemMenuSE.esp254 FE 8f OCW_AO_FEPatch.esp254 FE 90 OCW_HoD_FPSfix_Patch.esp254 FE 91 OCW_MusicPatch_VanillaPlus.esp254 FE 92 SnowOverSkyrim.esp254 FE 93 Turn of the Seasons.esp254 FE 94 Proteus - Odin Patch.esp254 FE 95 TOTS - Icy Waterways.esp48 30 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp254 FE 96 Proteus - Wintersun Patch.esp254 FE 97 ECSS - Staff of Sheogorath Patch.esp254 FE 98 ECSS - Ruin's Edge Patch.esp49 31 Cloaks.esp50 32 OBIS SE.esp51 33 ZIA_Complete Pack.esp52 34 PROTEUS.esp53 35 Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp254 FE 99 Proteus - Triumvirate Patch.esp254 FE 9a ECSS - Shadowrend Patch.espCloaks - USSEP Patch.esp254 FE 9b AI Overhaul - RDO Updated Patch.esp254 FE 9c OCW_WACCF_FEPatch.esp254 FE 9d OCW_ACE_FEPatch.esp254 FE 9e OCW_iN_FEPatch.esp254 FE 9f AI Overhaul - Cloaks of Skyrim - Patch.esp54 36 Immersive Weapons.esp254 FE a0 AI Overhaul - Immersive Weapons - Patch.esp254 FE a1 OSound.esp254 FE a2 Vampire Lines Expansion.esp55 37 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp254 FE a3 JPNocturnalMoths.esp254 FE a4 EldenCounter.esp254 FE a5 EldenParry.esp254 FE a6 Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp254 FE a7 College Of Winterhold - Quest Expansion.esp254 FE a8 PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp56 38 Convenient Horses.esp57 39 Missives.esp58 3a OPrivacy.esp254 FE a9 BountiesRedone_MissivesExtension.esp59 3b HottIldari.esp254 FE aa Missives - Solstheim.esp254 FE ab BountiesRedone_Missives_Solstheim.esp254 FE ac Usable lantern.esp254 FE ad Usable Lantern SMIM Mesh Shadow Fix - Haze Lights.esp254 FE ae CC-NecromanticGrimoire_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE af ClickySoundBegone.esp254 FE b0 Cast Spells Through Voice.esp254 FE b1 Elden Power Attack.esp60 3c Attack_DXP.esp254 FE b2 Keytrace.esp254 FE b3 Precision.esp254 FE b4 scar-adxp-patch.esp61 3d Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp254 FE b5 Proteus - Apocalypse Patch.esp254 FE b6 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp254 FE b7 OCW_iNE_FEPatch.esp62 3e Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp63 3f Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp64 40 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp254 FE b8 AOS_EBT Patch.esp254 FE b9 VSUFramework.esp65 41 FNIS.esp254 FE ba OBody.esp66 42 NaughtyVoices.esp254 FE bb OStimNPCs.esp254 FE bc WD03OTrainers.esp254 FE bd Arial Smooches of Skyrim.esp67 43 ORomance.esp254 FE be OVirginity.esp254 FE bf OCum.esp68 44 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp254 FE c0 fixLOD.esp254 FE c1 BetterThirdPersonSelection.esp254 FE c2 Shrubs of Snow.esp69 45 AMatterOfTime.esp70 46 MaximumDestruction.esp71 47 MaximumCarnage.esp72 48 Cathedral Weathers.esp254 FE c3 Bandit Lines Expansion.esp254 FE c4 Wintersun - ZIA Patch.esp254 FE c5 ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE c6 ZIA_Ancient Pack.esp254 FE c7 ZIA_Daedric Pack.esp254 FE c8 AudioOverhaulSkyrim_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE c9 ImmersiveSoundsCompendium_ACE_Patch.esp254 FE ca IncreaseVoiceDialogueAudio.esp254 FE cb ZMS.esp254 FE cc ZNI.esp254 FE cd ZTH.esp73 49 Spellsiphon.esp254 FE ce Spellsiphon - Bound Dagger Anim Fix.esp254 FE cf COW_RS_Patch.esp254 FE d0 Race Compatiblity - Serana Add-on Dialogue.esp254 FE d1 SDA RDO Patch.esp254 FE d2 ORomancePlus.esp74 4a SDA Convenient Horses Patch.esp75 4b Convenient Horses Anniversary Edition Patch.esp254 FE d3 TrueDirectionalMovement.esp254 FE d4 Animated Potions.esp254 FE d5 Smart_NPC_Potions.esp76 4c KS Hairdo's.esp254 FE d6 CACO_IA_PATCH.esp77 4d RSChildren.esp254 FE d7 RSChildren_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE d8 RealisticRSChildren.esp254 FE d9 RS Children - AI Overhaul AE edition Patch.esp78 4e Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp79 4f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp80 50 Unique Uniques.esp254 FE da WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension_SPID.esp254 FE db CBBE.esp254 FE dc MCMHelper.esp81 51 ValhallaCombat.esp82 52 RaceMenu.esp83 53 RaceMenuPlugin.esp84 54 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp254 FE dd OStrap.esp85 55 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp86 56 HFE-iNeed-Patch.esp87 57 OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp88 58 CMO - Witcher 3 - Northerner Diaries.espOptional Less Combat Music.esp254 FE de OSmp.esp89 59 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp254 FE df Proteus - Imperious Patch.esp90 5a Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp91 5b Immersive Jewelry.esp254 FE e0 Immersive Jewelry_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e1 ImmersiveJewelryXSummermyst.esp254 FE e2 CC-Fishing_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e3 AudioOverhaulSkyrim_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e4 CC-FearsomeFists_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e5 CC-NordicJewelry_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e6 Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e7 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e8 Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE e9 ImmersiveSoundsCompendium_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE ea Unique Uniques_CCOR_Patch.esp92 5c Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp254 FE eb Odin_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE ec CACO_Survival Mode_Patch.esp254 FE ed CACO_Wintersun.esp254 FE ee CC-Fishing_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE ef CACO Rare Curios Patch.esp254 FE f0 CACO_Saints&Seducers.esp254 FE f1 CC-Bittercup_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f2 CC-BloodchillManor_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f3 CC-BowOfShadows_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f4 CC-ForgottenSeasons_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f5 CC-Goblins_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f6 CC-Nix-Hound_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f7 CC-PlagueOfTheDead_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f8 CC-TheCause_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE f9 RelationshipDialogueOverhaul_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE fa SDA Wintersun Patch.esp93 5d Vokrii - Minimalistic Perks of Skyrim.esp254 FE fb CCOR_Vokrii.esp254 FE fc Spellsiphon - Patch - Vokrii.esp94 5e Apocalypse - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp95 5f Odin - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp254 FE fd Vokrii - Forgotten Magic Redone Bound Weapons Patch.esp96 60 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp254 FE fe Proteus - Sacrosanct Patch.esp254 FE ff Sacrosanct_CACO_Patch.esp97 61 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp254 FE 100 Nature of the Wild Lands - Alternate start.esp98 62 nwsFollowerFramework.esp254 FE 101 SDA NFF Patch.esp254 FE 102 nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp254 FE 103 nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp254 FE 104 OCW_CellSettings.esp99 63 RealisticWaterTwo.esp254 FE 105 RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed WaterPatch.esp254 FE 106 RealisticWaterTwo - Myrwatch Patch.esp100 64 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp101 65 Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp254 FE 107 Bashed Patch, 0.esp102 66 DynDOLOD.esp254 FE 108 Occlusion.esp I couldn't find anything on internet about this except some old versions of racemenu causing memory leaks. I got 16 GB of RAM which Skyrim gradually uses more and more, then moves to pagefile using up all the virtual RAM and finally crashes the game. I've tried to cut down textures from 4k to 2k, disabled DynDOLOD but to no avail. One thing I've noticed that it increases each time a new cell has been loaded. I tested that with entering/exiting Breezehome multiple times and my RAM usage went up from 6 gb to 9 gb despite staying in the same area. As If cells are unable to unload from the memory.I also use SSE Engine Fixes and memory manager patch but that doesnt help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Speculation Warning! Maybe PurgeCellBuffers might help here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hematoxylin Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 Nope sorry I've already tried PCB. It doesn't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Have you ever tried this: https://www.wagnardsoft.com/ISLCw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hematoxylin Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Thanks I'll try however I've already nuked my mod folder and reinstalled skyrim (I've decided to use MO2 instead of Vortex and remove some of the mods that im not actively using such as Missives). I suspect Nature of the Wild Lands and/or ENB though. I'll be away for a several days though so I'll update the post on friday/saturday Edited March 26, 2023 by Hematoxylin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayy Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 if pcb does not help a memory leak like srmenu is possible- you can monitor the memory use with task manager. if you let the os define the virtual os mem size automatically it is unlikely that skytim ctd due to lack of mem. check if your os hdd or sdd is at its capacity limit. that could be the reason in combination with insufficent memory and vram.with my 4k ultra setting skyrim uses sometimes the full 16GB vram+around 32GB ram the skyrim.exe it self around 17GB ram.you can also reduce the amount of memory consuming textures and upscaling mods as a workaround to lower the ctd risk if it clearly raises due to insufficient ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hematoxylin Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Well I checked with task manager. I used to have a 4gb usage at start, then immediately an increase to 10-12 gb If I use "coc" to teleport/jump around various cells (i.e cities and/or open areas of tamriel) Now after simply reinstalling everything from scratch, I'm simply using vanilla trees with a lightweight enb. I haven't started a legit gameplay but tested with "coc" or simply ran around in open areas. Right now mem usage is around 4-5 gb's which is pretty manageable.I probably messed up DynDOLOD setup along with high texture tree/grass mods.Everything seems okay for now. Edited April 2, 2023 by Hematoxylin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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