Vortex is hosing latet Bepinex in Valheim

[SwampyDan]

I ave been using Vortex to load mods into Valheim. After latest Valheim update, none of the mods would work. I tried everything. Last thing I tried was clean install and manual install of Bepinex and 2 other mods and they worked.

 

I can only assume that the vortex dll is hosing the modding system.

[AugustaCalidia]

You need to raise this issue with the developer of the Valheim extension for Vortex: https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/210.

[SpikeHimself]

Just found this as I was facing the same issue. The Valheim extension hasn't been updated for 7 months. Last time BepInEx updated, I had to do that manually, because the Valheim extension would just load the old version. I presume everyone else did this too since I can't find any trace of anyone reporting this or doing something about it.

 

Anyway I've provided a fix, just waiting for response.

 

https://github.com/Nexus-Mods/game-valheim/pull/7

 

(for clarity, I am not affiliated with Vortex or the team behind the Valheim extension - I'm just a mod author running into issues and fixing them!)

Edited March 30, 2023 by SpikeHimself

[AugustaCalidia]

Thank you for tackling this issue.

[SpikeHimself]

Just to let you know, my change was accepted and the new version will roll out today.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/210?tab=files

[oriondean]

hello. valheim with nexus is having a difficulty adjusting to the launch of hildir's request. for those of us using custom meshes and custom textures; the custom textures mod requires bepinexpack and every time we try to enable denikson-bepinexpack_valheim we get this error. "unable to update from github repo."

any direction if this mod is going to be fixed or if it is abandoned or when to expect a fix would be helpful. for now all that appears to be happening is bugreports are acumulating in the mods bug section.

https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/210?tab=bugs

Edited August 27, 2023 by oriondean

[VulcanTourist]

I've been experiencing this same error. It's not a wise decision to leave the maintenance of a crucial game and site element in the hands of someone who isn't paying attention and actually performing the maintenance. This particular bug is not the only one, and the most recent updates - v0.217.24 - of the game and BepInEx (5.4.22) are now causing Vortex to break both: Vortex is secretly and forcibly reinstalling an obsolete BepInEx without the user's consent from a hidden repository with no audit trail.

 

All of this makes NexusMods and everyone else look bad. What is "Nagev" doing with his time?

[VulcanTourist]

You need to raise this issue with the developer of the Valheim extension for Vortex: https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/210.

That extension developer is succeeding in making Vortex itself look bad "by extension" to every player of Valheim. The general advice in the Valheim community is to avoid Vortex entirely because of the failures of this extension, which have continued apace right into October 2023. It's doing the same thing now with and to BepInEx 5.4.22 that it was doing back in March with an earlier version. It actually overrides any user attempt to substitute the necessary new version!

 

It mystifies me that someone thought it would be wise to make the extension the sole arbiter of BepInEx, hard-wire this behavior and completely remove user agency in the matter, and THEN fail to aggressively maintain the hard-wired behavior. It's great that @SpikeHimself was handy to fix the mess it made back in March, but there's been no one stepping in now to band-aid the issue yet again, much less rework the poor design decision that is causing it.

 

There needs to be some enforceable oversight maintained by NexusMods over extension developers. Poor design decisions and lax maintenance harms everyone and the goodwill of Vortex as a whole, not just this faceless developer. A Vortex game extension may not technically be a part of Vortex, but from every practical perspective it most certainly is and should be treated as such.

[Pickysaurus]

Nagev had to leave the business for several months due to health concerns (as mentioned here). We also lost Tannin not long after, so Insominious has been trying his best to get back up to speed with all the different game extensions we support. The good news is Nagev is back now so we've got the original author of the extension again and I've made sure it's on the Vortex team's radar to update. I understand that we dropped the ball with it a bit, but that is - in part - because a lot of these grumblings about Vortex happen outside of our community and the people posting them don't think to report the problem to us. For example, I've been acutely aware that BepInEx updated (as we have a lot of Unity games on the site) but not that Vortex was pulling the wrong version and that was causing problems with the game.

 

We should be able to get back to working on the extension soon, so if you have any ideas for other changes or general constructive feedback we'd love to hear it.

 

One thing I will say is that the Vortex extension is fully open source, so if we ever go get into a situation where it desperately needs an update then a member of the community is welcome to step up and either make a MR on GitHub or push out their own, updated version.

[VulcanTourist]

I would consider attempting what @SpikeHimself did months ago, but my once-admired programming skills are non-existent now, decades out of date. I can suggest design direction, and that was my intention when I said that users need to have some agency in this matter and not make Vortex and the extension the dictator of BepInEx. The mechanism should be redesigned such that Vortex plays an advisory role in keeping it up to date with the game version. This may also require improving the ability of Vortex to query and pull mods and resources from alternative repositories beside just NexusMods, like GitHub and Thunderstore. There are plenty of bug reports regarding the former of those two.

 

Please don't forget that for the moment there's an entire game community unable to use Vortex for that game, one that appears quite popular. That sounds like quite a priority.