I QUIT

[RomanR]

Using old computer can be viable option, although annoying, yes. If your old computer is still in enough good shape and is using standard components (unfortunately some manufacturers like HP or Dell aren't, there are often restrictions in their UEFI/BIOS too), you can always buy a new PSU and disk for example. Old disk can be cloned to new one. You can buy also another network card, if the need arise. Unlike other old computers, such things for PC are still widely available and quite cheap (well, in my country at least).

[PeterMartyr]

Are u using the correct fixes

1. SKSE <-non-negotiable you need this to fix the memory allocation or yeah crash and burn for sure.
2. a SKSE INI correctly filled
3. Bug Fixes by Meh321
4. the unofficial patch

 

It is not that hard to get stable game, then all other problems are cause by crappy mods... remove them. I not rocket science for pete sake

 

• Anyone that say you can play without SKSE is f**king moron, it is non-negotiable, it even cleans your dirty saves... over time.

 

Edit: I will be the first to admit and up my hand up, I uninstall mods (HEHEHEHEHE) that and adding mods mid-play thru ( I do that too ) is one of the biggest reason for unstable game... remember you point at at "something" there is three fingers pointing back at YOU.

[InDarkestNight]

Sigh, yes I've applied every bugfix under the sun. I've long used skse, I have crash fixes, bug fixes, grid transition fix, New Vegas Anticrash (which proved to be by far the most effective mod to stop crashes, though I did start freezing more often after I started using it), enboost, the ini fixes. I've actually lost track of what all I've installed to try and fix the damned crashes. Also, why would this be unique to my game? This game is infamous for crashes. Most people say its just something you have to accept.

 

I've also removed as much as I can, only for the issue to persist. If a mod is the issue, its either a minor graphics or quality of life mod I've long used, or one of the mods I need for Legacy of the Dragonborn. Here is a list of all the ESPs I have. I of course have mods that don't have esps (mainly retextures), but MO doesn't give you a convenient way to display those too. Anyway, here is what I have:

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Vigilant.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
AKSkyrimUnderground.esm
Vigilant Voiced.esp
SkyUI.esp
FISS.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
Vivid Weathers.esp
Vivid Weathers - Distant Fog.esp
Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp
Vivid Weathers - Wyrmstooth.esp
TrueStorms.esp
VWTSPaTch.esp
Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Malborn Face Fix.esp
deadly_rose_aela.esp
CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
DBM_VigilantPatch.esp
LoTD Mannequins Behave.esp
AOS.esp
Vivid Weathers - AOS patch.esp
DBM_AOS_Patch.esp
LoTD USLEEP Patch.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
DBM_CCF_Patch.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
JS Barenziah - Johnskyrim.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
DBM_HA+IW+IA+DG_Patch.esp
NewArmoury.esp
AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp
Animated Immersive Weaps.esp
Animated Armour - Immersive Weapons Patch - Daedric Halberd Modification.esp
AnimatedVigilant.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp
DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
DBM_ArtifactsOfBoethiah_Patch.esp
Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
DBM_DGE_Patch.esp
TreaclemanTGCONPatch.esp
Gray Fox Cowl - Camel patch.esp
Undeath.esp
UndeathFixesLE.esp
UndeathFixes The Ascension LE.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
Falskaar Undeath Patch.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_Cloaks.esp
DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
KVLLullQuestStart60.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
ForgottenCity - Delayed Start.esp
FC WOL Formlist Patch.esp
TheMadMasker.esp
DBM_MadMasker_Patch.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
DBM_DPA_Patch.esp
DBM_Armory_Imp_Leath2.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
DBM_RelicHunter.esp
Elemental_Dragons.esp
DBM_ElementalDragons_Patch.esp
Violent_Alduin_Normal.esp
DurnehviirResurrected.esp
Fossilsyum.esp
FossilMiningMapMarkers.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
ISC CCF Patch.esp
ISC DeadlySpellImpacts Patch.esp
ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
LoTD NotSoFastMQ Patch.esp
BGtheCapturedFairies.esp
BadGremlinsJarHunt.esp
BGsomethingFishy.esp
BGtrophyHeads.esp
More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
escutcheonredwave.esp
DBM_MIL+OAP_Patch.esp
treasure_hunt.esp
DBM_TreasureHunt_Patch.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - Falskaar.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - TGCON.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - HR.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - ICW.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - KA.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - MAS.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - TFC.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - WOL.esp
LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - Wyrmstooth.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
Civil War Lines Expansion.esp
Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion.esp
Vampire Lines Expansion.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
GDO Redux Hunters not Bandits patch.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
Balanced Necromage Fix.esp
No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp
AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
QuestsAreInSkyrimUSLEEP.esp
LotD Skills in Book Titles Patch.esp
LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
LotD Learn Alchemy from Recipes Patch.esp
Yellow_Mountain_Flower.esp
No Vampire Cure on Rumors.esp
Night Eye Toggle.esp
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
Player Size Adjuster.esp
NoBrokenWhiterunTower.esp
iHUD.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cells CTD Fix (USLEEP).esp
Grid Transition Fix IA Patch.esp
MQ105 Duplicate Script Fix.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
Underwater Visibility Fix LE - RW2.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

As far as I'm aware, none of these mods are considered dangerous other than elemental dragons. Keep in mind, as I said before these crashes are happening even though I haven't started the main quest yet, so they can't be the issue. Besides, from my testing in the past the crash issues mainly came from some of the later game dragons. I was actually hoping to see if NVAC could prevent those crashes too (it covers quite a lot, its a real game changer, no pun intended).

[InDarkestNight]

Sigh, I never understood the point of posting load orders. Everyone demands it, but every time I've ever caved and did it, everyone just insisted they weren't interested in reading over it regardless of how short it is.

 

That said, I have been thinking about returning to the game. Though I was thinking of giving up on this Relic Hunter thing for now, and finally return to my 'immersive' load order, which I HAVEN'T USED IN FIVE YEARS. Finally, I can use Skytest Realistic Animals and Predators again, and frostfall, and also finally get to play the various other 'immersion' mods I've been looking to test (such as Last Seed, Trade and Barter, and a few other things).

 

As for my relic hunter thing, I found out that my build wouldn't have let me collect every item anyway. I've been choosing to play an orc to make my character as OP as possible. However, I've since found out that there's a displayable item that is only available by doing the quests the strongholds give you to become blood-kin. This item is unattainable if you either start as an orc or become blood-kin some other way (such as doing malacath's quest or a side quest for a city orc). So yeah, gonna have to start all over again. I was debating for the longest time if I should go breton or orc. Guess now its clear I have to go breton. Not having berserker rage though would make the thing harder; I was struggling against some of the enemies Immersive Creatures adds (namely the high-level solstheim creatures it adds to the rift at freaking level 1). Its also going to make acquiring pendulum far harder, since the only way to get it in LE is to kill a level 15 npc before you're level 10. Guess I'll have to revert to the werewolf strategy again. Oh well.

[MFitz56]

I've done all of that, have for years, and the crashes persist. There is no way to get this game stable. SE is even more unstable on my system, and the relentless updates keep me from using my favorite mods, or any mods in general.

 

I've lost the ability to play skyrim, all I have left is games that I despise. I'm sick of playing games I gave up on years ago, just because I have nothing left that I enjoy. All my favorite games have been updated into something unrecognizable, and something I can't enjoy playing no matter how many second chances I give it.

 

Why can't I have games that I enjoy? Why must vile evil companies constantly tear them from me? Is my money not enough for them? Is all the blood and sweat this community has put into mods not enough for bethesda? Do gaming companies just not want people to play their games? They're sure hellbent on accomplishing that. Been thinking maybe we should all sue bethesda for what they're doing to us. Maybe that will teach them to stop their paying customers from playing their game, maybe send a message to the rest of the gaming industry. DON'T MISTREAT YOUR OWN PAYING CUSTOMERS. Why must we even tell them that, seriously? This world just gets madder by the day. Is there no such thing as sanity anymore? We have half this country seriously less in touch with reality than schizophrenics, nasa is taking ufos seriously, the internet is nothing but lies and trolls but YOU CAN'T HOLD A f*#@ING JOB IF YOU AREN'T A PART OF ALL ITS MADNESS. I'm sick of the internet, I'm sick of the gaming industry, I'm sick of what this country has become.

 

Yes, I'm having a bad day. I simply have no way to relax and unwind after quitting skyrim, because I simply have nothing else to do with my free time. I've tried reading, watching youtube, everything I can find but nothing seems to work. I want engagement, I want to actually do things other than sitting here staring at books or my screen. I hardly see much of a reason to turn this stupid machine on anymore, but I have nothing better to do it seems other than contend with the sheer and utter madness that is the modern world.

I am unsure of why you have that issue. Using the guide above I rarely have a problem. When I do it is almost always to something running in the background (typically a Windows update). So, I go hours and days without a freeze or crash. Perhaps the mods you use are inherently unstable?

[InDarkestNight]

What could they be then? I do avoid using unstable mods. I know of no mod in my load order that is considered by anyone 'unstable'. I did list the load order I was going to use for my Relic Hunter run, though as usual nobody commented on it or even acknowledged it. I've since made a new load order for a completely different playthrough, leaving the one I posted for another time just so I can finally play the game. I was trying to make a minimal load order, but I ended up with more mods than before (I was virtually nothing from the load order I posted). Scanning over it, I'm not sure why the number is so high. There's a few dozen patches for things like AI Overhaul and WARP. Honestly though, like 3/4 of the load order seems to just be graphics and fixes. They alone literally take up over half the load order. I have also found that having more mods makes things more unstable, regardless of what they are. I was able to confirm some years ago after extensive testing that no singular mod was causing my issue, but I did find that the odds of it happening increased with the number of mods I had (or more accurately decreased with the number of mods I had disabled during my testing). That was an issue caused by a grid transition, and I got that fixed with New Vegas Anticrash. I think I did go some time without any crashes or freezes. That didn't last though.

 

Maybe one of the mods required for Legacy of the Dragonborn is inherently unstable? Here's a link I used to find all the mods I needed if you're not willing to look over my Relic Hunter load order:

 

https://legacy-of-the-dragonborn.fandom.com/wiki/Supported_Mods#Mods_adding_displays

 

I tried to trim the load order as much as I could. I pretty much have nothing but the mods on this page and SOME graphics mods. I even removed most of those, and it made no difference. Maybe I should just start my new playthrough and see if anything goes wrong? There's not really any overlap between the two load orders, and what few mods they do share are things like Balanced Necromage Fix. Small mods with no scripts that shouldn't be causing a stability issue. I've even thought merging some mods, but that has caused me issues in the past and doesn't seem worth the hassle. I am still thinking though of merging Balanced Necromage Fix into the unofficial patch or my perk overhaul. I have merged typo patches and such into their main mods before. Wyrebash is telling me I can merge 22 esps, though I'm not willing to try that given the issues that causes. From my research, you can't just disable the esp in the right panel; you have to actually copy over the textures meshes, bsas and what not from the original mod into the folder holding the merged patch. That's a lot of work for a patch that's only going to be usable with one specific load order.

[SatansComrade]

When getting crashes in Skyrim LE, this is what I do...

 

1) Run and repair Visual C++

2) Reinstall DirectX.

3) Run "SaveTool.exe" (Skyrim save tool), and fix any script instances. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363

4) Use a program like CCleaner to clear old Windows prefetch data.

In Windows 10, I also have "Game Mode" turned off; Settings/Gaming/Game Mode. I don't actually remember if this helped with Skyrim, but it helped with some game. You could try it, see if it helps.

Oh! One last thing...

If you're out adventuring, and all-of-a-sudden you get major lag, look around for a thief and kill it, as they are the cause of this major lag; the one you notice when looting bodies.