Ratman1984 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Last time I used this site was years ago and Nexus Mod Manager was still around and it was a breeze to use. Vortex has been annoying, to say the least. I'm playing System Shock Remake and want to mod it to make some aspects of the gameplay less tedious. I can find the mod section for that game on this site and it has a bunch of useful mods.https://www.nexusmods.com/systemshock2023When I open Vortex and go to the "Games" section, System Shock is nowhere to be found in the list of games I can select to manage. There also appears to be no way to manually add the game. The internet suggested I use ModOrganizer2 instead, which at least gives me the ability to navigate to the game folder, but it says it can't find any game executable in the folder, despite it definitely being there.What gives? If the mods are on this very site, why can't I add the game to start using the mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Not every game on the site is supported by Vortex. The list of supported games is here: https://www.nexusmods.com/about/vortex/ System Shock Remake is not supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman1984 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Ok, but why would there be mods on this site for the game if the game isn't supported? How are those mod files used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Hosting the files is simple. Automating the installation and management for all those game is difficult. Many of the games have their own game-specific mod managers and Vortex can't duplicate those systems without radically altering how it manages mods overall. So you download those games from here but use those game managers instead (many of which are also hosted here.) Other games require their mods to be manually installed and need the user to make changes by hand to make them work. A lot of it has to do with how much the game developers support modding. The more supportive developers will include a reasonably simple and consistent method of installing mods that can be easily automated with a mod manager. In other cases the licensed engine has some degree of built-in mod support that can be used. For a few games you need three witch doctors and a sacrificial chicken to make two mods work simultaneously. edit: It's one of the reasons why the Nexus has open APIs to allow other mod managers to access the files on this site automatically. There was never an intention for Vortex to be the "be all and end all" of mod managers. Though, funnily, they are now discussing the design of a future mod manager that might be able to handle anything that's thrown at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman1984 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 "Many of the games have their own game-specific mod managers" Ok, that makes more sense. I think I read that ModOrganizer started out as a Skyrim specific mod manager. But I just went through all the available files for the game on this site and didn't see anything that looked like a System Shock custom mod manager. So I'm still a bit confused as to how people are using the mods. "Other games require their mods to be manually installed and need the user to make changes by hand to make them work."So I'm assuming that's the answer, I just don't know where to look for the documentation for how to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Most mod authors should include some basic instructions on the mod page itself. Or you can ask in the comments for a mod you are interested in. Edit: quick look seems to indicate it's a fairly simple "drop file here" installation. Someone might even be able to make a Vortex extension so that Vortex can manage the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman1984 Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 I only checked the description and forum tabs on a few of the mods and didn't see any instructions. I'll take a closer look at more mod pages when I get home. Thanks for the info. I mostly just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something within Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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