In terms of CPU/GPU use which of the newer games is most smilar to Fallout 4?

[RoNin1971]

31 minutes ago, AndalayBay said:

I've also found that the CPU speed is the governing factor with Bethesda games. I had a Core i7 and when it died, I actually went with a faster Core i5 and all my Bethesda games run pretty fast now (Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 & 4). Skyrim and Fallout 4 use the graphics card more than the old ones do, but they still seem to benefit from higher speed.

Core i5-10600K @ 4.10GHz
32 GB RAM
WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD

Having a fast SSD for your game files is also key. I have my saves on a traditional drive.

 

That's because the older games can't handle all those cores. They only use a few. The faster each CPU-core the better the game performs, in those cases.

 

& FO4 actually is pretty bad with SSD's. It can't handle the speed. Consequently loading can take forever.

[AndalayBay]

I'm using High FPS Physics Fix and that fixes the slow loading times. Also on NG.

[geala]

Really? I will try the mod. Are there negatives known, like danger of more ctds? I prefer long loading times and a stable game to fast loading and more ctds.

To performance, I would take into account wether you want the base game (meh, ugh) or a modded version. I for a long time used a 1920 x 1080 screen, my 3840 x 2160 screen caught dust in the basement because it seemed "too big" to me, I couldn't see everything on it at once (a matter of habituation surely). I think my PC would also not have be able at all to run FO4 on highest settings with the big screen. I had Fallout 4 with HD textures and an ENB at about 45-50 fps in worst case (i9-11900k, RTX 2070, fast SSD, 32 GB RAM) with the small screen. I didn't face high loading times, perhaps 30 sec at max.

With my new PC I finally switched to the bigger screen, using 4k to 8k textures when available. The game looks so much better but the loading times are abysmal, some minutes when leaving DC or Goodneigbor. I did not check my fps but I have it capped to 61 fps in the FO4.ini.

I would say that you should buy the fastest PC you can afford and don't look at minimal or average requirements.

[AndalayBay]

9 hours ago, geala said:

Really? I will try the mod. Are there negatives known, like danger of more ctds? I prefer long loading times and a stable game to fast loading and more ctds.

To performance, I would take into account wether you want the base game (meh, ugh) or a modded version. I for a long time used a 1920 x 1080 screen, my 3840 x 2160 screen caught dust in the basement because it seemed "too big" to me, I couldn't see everything on it at once (a matter of habituation surely). I think my PC would also not have be able at all to run FO4 on highest settings with the big screen. I had Fallout 4 with HD textures and an ENB at about 45-50 fps in worst case (i9-11900k, RTX 2070, fast SSD, 32 GB RAM) with the small screen. I didn't face high loading times, perhaps 30 sec at max.

With my new PC I finally switched to the bigger screen, using 4k to 8k textures when available. The game looks so much better but the loading times are abysmal, some minutes when leaving DC or Goodneigbor. I did not check my fps but I have it capped to 61 fps in the FO4.ini.

I would say that you should buy the fastest PC you can afford and don't look at minimal or average requirements.

I don't recall getting any crashes in FO4. I think I had some issues when I first enabled weapon debris, but the crash fix mod fixed that.

You've got an i9, but what's the speed? As I said, my i5 is superior to the i7 I had. Your other bottleneck will be that 2070. Have a look at the graphics card reviews and they'll discuss the changes Nvidia went through with their cards. I found the 4060 to be the sweet spot for me.

I've got three monitors 1920x1200. I don't like the 1080s but I guess I'll get forced into that ratio eventually. I plan to buy a 32" if and when I can afford it.

[geala]

The RTX 2070 was on my old PC. The new one (some months old, is that still "new"? ) has a 4080 Super X3 (which cost less than half the price of a 4090 in my country while being not that much slower). The chip is an i9-14900KF, the OS and the game are on a Samsung 990 EVO SSD. 

While it's not a weak rig, I think, I still have sometimes (once a day or so) short freezes (1 to 10 sec, it's not a big problem), seemingly when the game loads big chunks of new textures when entering some areas. I never had this with my old PC, using 2k HD textures. Now I use 2k only if there are no 4k to 8k textures available. I have 4k for most static objects, robots, clothing, armor and so, because I was sick of the often fuzzy appearance of 2k textures. I never have low fps or stuttering however and no problems in DC or other areas.

[RoNin1971]

On 1/27/2025 at 11:49 AM, AndalayBay said:

I'm using High FPS Physics Fix and that fixes the slow loading times. Also on NG.

Yeah. That still got me 'shocked'. If anything, the NG version should have fixed the loading speeds/issues, but even that was to much to ask.

 

In general one should keep in mind the game/engine was never designed or optimized for todays hardware and their capabilities, so its never going to utilize all of it (correctly).

[fraquar]

On 1/26/2025 at 2:12 AM, 363rdChemicalCompany said:

I dont 

Fallout 4 is the only game I play right now. My other titles are even older (and not modded)

You sir are an endangered species.   

I took the plunge on Baldur's Gate 3 - but TBH I haven't played it much since I got it.

That said, my rig can handle anything Baldur's Gate 3 needs - save my monitor and the resolution....

[363rdChemicalCompany]

I just looked up an online calculator it basically said 4080 Super is not enough GPU to play Starfield on Ultra with 4k. (24 fps minimum)

[RoNin1971]

42 minutes ago, 363rdChemicalCompany said:

I just looked up an online calculator it basically said 4080 Super is not enough GPU to play Starfield on Ultra with 4k. (24 fps minimum)

That might be right. I'm pretty sure the 3D models they use are way more complex as the FO4 ones, so don't worry about that. My 2070Super could handle FO4 on ultra without breaking a sweat. It's when you load it up with 4K textures and an ENB where it will fall short.

I'm sure a 4080super will have no trouble with that AND a bunch of 8K textures, just like my 4090.

[AndalayBay]

That was the other thing: when I picked a graphics card, I wanted one that supported ray tracing.

Here's Tom's review of graphics cards and Starfield.