kat1004 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 10 minutes ago, HollownessDevoured said: Sadly, I know. If they even just started with reverting to the old forum colour theme, and the old nexus colour theme and start from there—instead of their new baseline and try to back peddle. A lot of the issues I have would be solved by reverting to the old Nexus colors. Like... a lot. Not all, for sure, the extreme amount of wasted space isn't going to be fixed by a simple palette swap back to the old, but at least it'd fix my inability to use the site for more than a couple minutes. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zloybelka Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, CaptainSandyPants said: The reduction in contrast in that example was for us to get a baseline of what the absolute max could be an not cause eye fatigue, which even then we would then use sparingly and aim for lower in general while still maintaining at least a AA rating with WCAG. Pls, just make it an optional (default) color palette, so you get any ratings you're required to get, and let us have an optional old color palette (it was a perfect not too light "light mode"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avebrave Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 14 hours ago, JustThatKing said: We've been speaking to the design team about the levels of contrast introduced to make some adjustments and setting contrast rules in our design system that hopefully help with the contrast issues you are having with the site. How does this screenshot look to you? This is an example of the highest contrast we are trying at the moment (14:1), so this screenshot is testing that (which would be the maximum contrast in the UI. Although it may be lower contrast in the final design, as long as it's above 7:1. Do you think this will help with your problems? I think my comment was not rude in any way, so no need to be rude here. The provided screenshot doesn't even address my concern, you know yourself that your new design uses several different shades of grey. And yes I also looked at the 2nd screenshot you provided. But it still does not address my concern, I think I was very specific about the issue I'm having while editing a modpage, there you use a way lighter grey than anywhere else (Mod description). It is a pita. But I guess I just post a fancy screen and don't bother with the description, it is the most underrated part of a mod anyways.... For me you failed at your own goal: Making modding as easy as possible. I guess your goal only applies for mod users, not authors. Cheers. Ave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollownessDevoured Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Just now, kat1004 said: A lot of the issues I have would be solved by reverting to the old Nexus colors. Like... a lot. Not all, for sure, the extreme amount of wasted space isn't going to be fixed by a simple palette swap back to the old, but at least it'd fix my inability to use the site for more than a couple minutes. The wasted space and lost fifth tile were also huge issues a year ago, and ignored/dismissed X / The excuse for/because visibility for certain accessibility group was weak, as those with vision issues can always zoom in but you cannot zoom out to get that fifth title back. As I told mfPixel last year here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khirasier Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 the new ui is trash and i hate it, wish they would just roll back to the old one. it looks fancy but its just far less functional than the old one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff CaptainSandyPants Posted March 25 Staff Share Posted March 25 21 minutes ago, HollownessDevoured said: I also provided this a year ago maybe staff should revisit that feedback post as a whole again. The last we spoke about contrast on the forums you ended with "yes the forums are/should be a lot more tolerable for people complaining about the high contrast/eye strain. Aka, I'd be able to stand down on my complaints directed at the forums. With this editor, should help with eye strain immensely for those complaining" this was based on the changes we actively made based on your feedback. We haven't changed anything since then, that said, if you have have found that there are more/different issues you are having after spending some more time on the forums, I'll be glad to look into them. We don't want anyone to experience discomfort when viewing the site. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollownessDevoured Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Just now, CaptainSandyPants said: The last we spoke about contrast on the forums you ended with "yes the forums are/should be a lot more tolerable for people complaining about the high contrast/eye strain. Aka, I'd be able to stand down on my complaints directed at the forums. With this editor, should help with eye strain immensely for those complaining" this was based on the changes we actively made based on your feedback. We haven't changed anything since then, that said, if you have have found that there are more/different issues you are having after spending some more time on the forums, I'll be glad to look into them. We don't want anyone to experience discomfort when viewing the site. I cannot expect staff to accommodate me alone, so I stood down over the forums when the tweaks were made, as it is only the forums (which I didn't frequent much) and not the nexus site, but I still left and is still not as good as the previous theme. It was a "pick your battles" moment, and the nexus site colour/contrast issues were more important than the forums. I am still not going to campaign just over the forums, nexus site is priority but I will still mention it was better before. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkpad4 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Can you change the Update To This Mod thing, make it look like the old style, I can't see the new style very well and keep missing updated mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff CaptainSandyPants Posted March 26 Staff Share Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, HollownessDevoured said: I cannot expect staff to accommodate me alone, so I stood down over the forums when the tweaks were made, as it is only the forums (which I didn't frequent much) and not the nexus site, but I still left and is still not as good as the previous theme. It was a "pick your battles" moment, and the nexus site colour/contrast issues were more important than the forums. I am still not going to campaign just over the forums, nexus site is priority but I will still mention it was better before. That's fair enough. We're reaching out to others who are experiencing discomfort with the high contrast too. So far we've narrowed it down to the "chips" i.e. the tabs for Mods, Updated, Trending, Popular etc. on the site and the potentially the headings above those. If there's anywhere else you, or others here, find the colours harsh please let me know specifically where they are. The team are also looking into the other feedback that's been raised but I'm personally looking at reducing the high contrast at the moment, while maintaining our AA rating for those with visual impairments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollownessDevoured Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 18 minutes ago, CaptainSandyPants said: The last we spoke about contrast on the forums you ended with "yes the forums are/should be a lot more tolerable for people complaining about the high contrast/eye strain. Aka, I'd be able to stand down on my complaints directed at the forums. With this editor, should help with eye strain immensely for those complaining" this was based on the changes we actively made based on your feedback. We haven't changed anything since then, that said, if you have have found that there are more/different issues you are having after spending some more time on the forums, I'll be glad to look into them. We don't want anyone to experience discomfort when viewing the site. Or are you trying to "gotcha" me, that I am a hypocrite? I am still sure my recommendations did stand down a lot of complaints and that people found the tweaks tolerable compared to before for the forums, and help spare the onset of more complaints. Better or "tolerable" doesn't mean it is or was best, it was just better than the alternative/original update, since staff refused to revert or keep original as an option. I still believe, I did what I could, with what staff would allow at the time, and I hope you are not trying to devalue that, just because I still wish it could be the previous theme before the March 2024 update. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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