colourwheel Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) There is such a push recently from the conservative movement for limiting contraceptives under the new healthcare law. Why isn't something like penis pumps an issue? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2539065/U-S-Medicare-programme-wasted-172-MILLION-penis-pumps.html http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2011/12/06/quarter-billion-taxpayer-dollars-spent-penis-pumps http://freebeacon.com/taxpayers-paid-nearly-175m-for-penis-pumps-between-2006-and-2011/ Seems it's ok for tax payer dollars to be wasted on penis pumps but birth control is a no no.... I don't care if your liberal or conservative, in my mind there is no reason why penis pumps should be paid with by tax payer dollars... Then you look at something like this and wonder why the STD rate increases among the elderly.... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sexually-transmitted-disease-rates-rise-among-elderly-why/ http://theweek.com/article/index/224100/the-dramatic-rise-of-stds-among-senior-citizens http://std.about.com/od/stdsspecificcommunities/a/elderlystd.htm Seems like a vicious cycle of wasted money for people who are using penis pumps at the expense of tax payer dollars just to get sexually transmitted diseases which will be paid by tax payer dollars to treat. Then one wonders why our system is so broken where as the elderly are using tax payer dollars just to have unprotected sex... Edited February 8, 2014 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Because erectile dysfunction is categorized as a disease and penis pumps, or other erectile treatments are a prescribed treatment for that disease, so it would naturally be covered under medical plans that would also cover treatments for other diseases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Because erectile dysfunction is categorized as a disease and penis pumps, or other erectile treatments are a prescribed treatment for that disease, so it would naturally be covered under medical plans that would also cover treatments for other diseases. And irregular menstrual cycle is just nothing to worry about then? Birth control isn't just used as a conservative. Seems Men don't understand this enough where as they throw caution in the wind when it comes to a woman's health then look at a man's broken penis and think it's life or death.... Maybe it might be helpful for me to link the benefits of birth control ... http://www.asrm.org/uploadedFiles/ASRM_Content/Resources/Patient_Resources/Fact_Sheets_and_Info_Booklets/Noncontraceptive%20benefits%20of%20BCP-final_1-5-12.pdf Edited February 8, 2014 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Erectile dysfunction can not only lead to psychological issues but can also harm and even finish relationships, not only affecting the man but also having a negative impact on the spouse and their children, the financial impact of not treating it can be a lot higher. It is a medical condition and thus treated as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Because erectile dysfunction is categorized as a disease and penis pumps, or other erectile treatments are a prescribed treatment for that disease, so it would naturally be covered under medical plans that would also cover treatments for other diseases. And irregular menstrual cycle is just nothing to worry about then? Birth control isn't just used as a conservative. Seems Men don't understand this enough where as they throw caution in the wind when it comes to a woman's health then look at a man's broken penis and think it's life or death.... Maybe it might be helpful for me to link the benefits of birth control ... http://www.asrm.org/uploadedFiles/ASRM_Content/Resources/Patient_Resources/Fact_Sheets_and_Info_Booklets/Noncontraceptive%20benefits%20of%20BCP-final_1-5-12.pdf I am well aware that there are a much wider range of health concerns which birth control or hormone treatments can be used to treat. The problem however is that most of these are not classified as regular treatments among those people in the medical profession who are in a position to decide what is and is not important enough to be covered. I am merely pointing out that the problem isn't a political one, but rather one based on how this stuff is classified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Erectile dysfunction can not only lead to psychological issues but can also harm and even finish relationships, not only affecting the man but also having a negative impact on the spouse and their children, the financial impact of not treating it can be a lot higher. It is a medical condition and thus treated as one. And a woman's health doesn't effect them financially or negatively impact them and their family? Also I would like to note the financial impact of a woman who is single who has not properly planned out their parenthood will indefinitely effect them in a negative way mostly leading to government assistance. A woman's health may not be a medical condition but it should be treated more seriously than thinking a man and his penis should be paramount to anything else... Women can have sexual dysfunctions just like a man can get which just because there is no way to treat this currently doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It would be my bet once the world has come up with a way to medically treat a woman who has a sexual dysfunction, there will be a political push from the right for it to not be covered under the health mandate.... They will probably claim it to be too expensive and not needed.... Edited February 8, 2014 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Erectile dysfunction can not only lead to psychological issues but can also harm and even finish relationships, not only affecting the man but also having a negative impact on the spouse and their children, the financial impact of not treating it can be a lot higher. It is a medical condition and thus treated as one. And a woman's health doesn't effect them financially or negatively impact them and their family? Also I would like to note the financial impact of a woman who is single who has not properly planned out their parenthood will indefinitely effect them in a negative way mostly leading to government assistance. A woman's health may not be a medical condition but it should be treated more seriously than thinking a man and his penis should be paramount to anything else... Women also has sexual dysfunctions just like a man can get which just because there is no way to treat this currently doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It would be my bet once the world has come up with a way to medically treat a woman who has a sexual dysfunction, there will be a political push from the right for it to not be covered under the health mandate.... Nobody is suggesting female only medical conditions don't have a negative impact, I never mentioned women because womens issues aren't even remotely connected to a condition that only effects men. You're coming across as awfully sexist, the fact that you brought womens issues into this suggests to me that you don't see people, you see genders, you problem isn't with the spending of taxpayers money but rather with whom it is being spent on. Your suggestion that men shouldn't be treated because they'll only get STDs and cost money is appalling, if I'd have suggested a womans sexual problem shouldn't be treated because she'd only go around getting STDs I'd have been quite rightly jumped on. I wish the left would start to see people as people rather than groups, it's divisive and leads to the sexism, racism and general discrimination they claim to be opposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbringe Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Erectile dysfunction can not only lead to psychological issues but can also harm and even finish relationships, not only affecting the man but also having a negative impact on the spouse and their children, the financial impact of not treating it can be a lot higher. It is a medical condition and thus treated as one. Sure those things can be a problem but I 've never heard of anyone dying from a limp dick , in fact it has never happened and at one time it was just an accepted thing socially speaking, that there were some men who were unable to engage in such activity and it was viewed just as one of those trials of life much like blindness or deafness . Yet in the case of womens health in regards to abortion there have been many deaths over the decades . For example The National Center for Health Statistics listed 235 deaths from abortion in 1965 , a number which they admitted would be an under reported number , this would of been prior to Roe v Wade . In 1970 when New York State allowed for abortions to be performed in state hospitals the mortality rate of women dropped by 50% in one year in that state . Yet some in the conservative/religious right spheres would ban abortions , even contraception itself at times while at the same time be perfectly willing to fund limp dick devices and research , wtf (scuse my language) . Does it not strike anyone as odd that there are those who out of one side of their mouths (to women) preach a ban abortions , stop family planning services , abstinance is best , wait til your married , basically a no sex theme , yet out of the other side (to men) its penile pumps and funding for sex enhancement drugs like Cialis or Viagro , a sex as much as possible theme . They keep telling me it has something to do with core values , but I think its really just confused values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) @jim_uk So I am sexist for pointing out the amount of taxpayers dollars used on buying penis pumps for men then pointing out the rise of STD among the elderly who choose to not use protection when having sex which in fact is then being treated at the tax payers expense too? Harbringe just pointing out something I was about to address... Well stated Harbringe :thumbsup: Edited February 8, 2014 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Erectile dysfunction can not only lead to psychological issues but can also harm and even finish relationships, not only affecting the man but also having a negative impact on the spouse and their children, the financial impact of not treating it can be a lot higher. It is a medical condition and thus treated as one. Sure those things can be a problem but I 've never heard of anyone dying from a limp dick , in fact it has never happened and at one time it was just an accepted thing socially speaking, that there were some men who were unable to engage in such activity and it was viewed just as one of those trials of life much like blindness or deafness . Yet in the case of womens health in regards to abortion there have been many deaths over the decades . For example The National Center for Health Statistics listed 235 deaths from abortion in 1965 , a number which they admitted would be an under reported number , this would have been prior to Roe v Wade . In 1970 when New York State allowed for abortions to be performed in state hospitals the mortality rate of women dropped by 50% in one year in that state . Yet some in the conservative/religious right spheres would ban abortions , even contraception itself at times while at the same time be perfectly willing to fund limp dick devices and research , wtf (scuse my language) . Does it not strike anyone as odd that there are those who out of one side of their mouths (to women) preach a ban abortions , stop family planning services , abstinance is best , wait til your married , basically a no sex theme , yet out of the other side (to men) its penile pumps and funding for sex enhancement drugs like Cialis or Viagro , a sex as much as possible theme . They keep telling me it has something to do with core values , but I think its really just confused values. So, are they promoting the gay agenda then? If women are supposed to refrain from sex, but, men are funded by taxpayer dollars to be promiscuous, who are they going to have sex WITH? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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