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How on earth did you find that lol, tried every possible key word i could think of, nothing on my end :teehee:

 

I would personally go with the gigabyte models, they always have the highest clocked and coolest cards. Plus that particular version has 4gb of vram.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125496

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  On 2/10/2014 at 10:01 PM, Rennn said:

 

  On 2/10/2014 at 9:52 PM, obobski said:

HD 6970 should not be struggling with Fallout 3/New Vegas or Skyrim - not at all. Here's a TPU review of the 270X that has the 6970 included for comparison in Skyrim:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/21.html

 

 

He's running mods, and we have no idea how many.

That said, mods can easily bog down any PC. Upgrading his graphics card might give him great performance, or it might do almost nothing. Really it depends on what kinds of mods he's running and how many.

 

 

I think we're basically on the same page here - more information is needed about the software and potential conflicts (or bad load order) before we can talk hardware upgrades. I'd add that the specific choice of the 270X is unlikely to do much - the performance difference between them is very narrow.

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Guys I am running a 6790 not a 6970 :blush: . By the way my mobo does support Dual UEFI so I should not have any problems with that. Getting the 270X in my country is no big deal because it's very popular due to its lower price. You could also find the 290X but not the 280X here which is kinda odd.

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  On 2/11/2014 at 5:06 AM, ArchangelCassiel said:

Guys I am running a 6790 not a 6970 :smile:. By the way my mobo does support Dual UEFI so I should not have any problems with that. Getting the 270X in my country is no big deal because it's very popular due to its lower price. You could also find the 290X but not the 280X here which is kinda odd.

 

A 270x would be at least a 30% increase in raw performance (IE, from 30 fps to 40 fps), but it performs even better in regards to antialiasing and texture filtering, and it's much better than the 6790 at high resolutions, so if you go to 1080p at some point you wouldn't lose much fps with the 270x. Also, the 2GB VRAM instead of 1GB would allow you to run pretty much any HD texture mods you want in Fallout or Skyrim (provided you stay within the limits of the engine). I'd say it's a worthy upgrade, but only if you get one for substantially less than $300. The closer you can get to $200, the better, because originally they were just supposed to cost $200 even.

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I was looking at the 4GB Gigabyte version:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125496

It is only a few bucks more expensive than the 2GB one so I really don't see any reason not to get that. The 4GB MSI version is a potential candidate too.

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Whoa, now that I took a look at the AMD lineup on Newegg - forget the 270X, get yourself a Radeon 7870 while they're still around or a 270 if you can find one on discount (270 is identical to 7870 in performance). Difference in price is not that small, you can find a 7870 for a bit over $200, like this XFX Double Dissipation 7870 for $230, there's even a PowerColor one for $170 but I don't have any experience with that manufacturer. Sadly, Sapphire 7870s are out of stock, those are generally cheap, come with a 1050MHz core and a lot of OC headroom.

 

Difference in performance between the 7870 and 270X is minimal, 5-10% based on model and manufacturer, factory overclocked 7870 like some ASUS and Sapphire models will beat a reference 270X. They are both based on the same Pitcairn XT chip and any difference between them is in GPU/memory clocks, which can be ironed out through overclocking.

 

 

 

As a side note, I don't know why but prices of R9-series went up like crazy on US websites, up to a point where that same card costs less in Croatia even though it should cost ~20-25% more around here compared to US prices. R9 270X costs some $250 around here while 7870 costs $400, even the R9 290X costs 2/3 the price of a GTX 780 Ti and only slightly more expensive than a 7970. All R9-series cards around here are priced as AMD said they would be (some cost even less than they should), not like they are everywhere else. :blink:

 

I don't know what the hell is going on but I have a feeling I should grab a 270 while they still go for ~$200, before the prices get blown out of proportion around here as well. :ermm:

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6790 changes everything - that's a lysdexic moment on my part. Doh!

 

Yes, 270X is a biggun upgrade over that (roughly double-over internal throughput, memory bandwidth isn't quite double though), but I agree with Werne on the 7870 - they're almost identical, so save the money by getting a 7870 (if possible). If the 4GB card is really only a few dollars, why not? Don't expect it to be a big performance gain over the 2GB model, but again - for a few dollars, why not?

 

Having said that, I'd still look through your modlist, load order, see if anything needs cleaning, etc - you may find some performance improvement there too.

 

I'll say PowerColor is very good - I'd put them on par with Sapphire. Both have been around for ages, and both make good cards. PowerColor may be better known as the TUL Corporation (PowerColor is a sub-brand), if that helps international members identify them.

 

Werne - I think Thor is probably onto something with the card pricing going up due to bitmining and distributed computing; supply and demand and all that. It's also probably "allowable" because of the runaway train that has been nVidia pricing in the last few years.

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My 6790 is ancient :laugh:. The prices are pretty mixed up in Hungary too. For example a 270X costs around $290-$300 whereas the 7870 is about $270-$280(the latter is a bit hard to come around). The 290X ranges from $750 to $840, a 290 is about $620. As for the 280X you can only get the Asus Maximus version which has a ridiculous price of $960.

 

Prices are damn crazy in terms Nvidia too. A 760 is about $340(you even get Assassins Creed IV with the Gigabyte version) a 660 goes for $420. 780s can be found from $650 to $715. A 780Ti is about $925. A 690 costs $1220 and Titans range from $1275 to $1300.

 

As I said: import taxes :sad:. By the way since I live in Hungary these are the prices that apply to me because Newegg, Amazon or such sites don't ship here. I am pretty sure I will be getting a 270X because that 10-30 dollar difference is not that much.

 

obobski I could upload my load order(Skyrim and New vegas) for you to look through if you wish. I would be grateful if someone with the decent expertise could tell me if I have issues(I'm sure I do) maybe even tell me how to fix them.

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Yes I have only heard good things about them.

 

obobski - Here is my New Vegas load order(pretty much identical to the one Gopher uses in his current playthrough since I was too lazy to look for mods myself :laugh:)

 

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And here is my Skyrim (it might be a bit outdated because I haven't played it for some time because of the terrible performance)

 

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The ones that are aligned left with dashes are unchecked in NMM. Hope it's not too bad :laugh:.

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