velve666 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Ok I hope ive grabbed someone...anyones attention here, seems so barren. Right this is a problem thread yessss problem and here it is : I am currently as are about a million others fed up of CTD's in Skyrim, I am not generally a person to pitch in to a forum for the sake of complaining but I am at my wits end now and have nowhere to turn to, not google forums ect. first things first load order Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1] 09 Falskaar.esm 0A ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0B ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 0C JSwords.esm [Version 1.4] 0D moonpath.esm 0E SkyMoMod.esm 0F SPIKE.esm 10 Chesko_Frostfall.esp 11 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 12 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.1] 13 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.1] 14 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp [Version 1.4] 15 SkyUI.esp 16 iHUD.esp 17 hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 18 Immersive Weapons.esp 19 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp [Version 1.4] 1A DeadlyDragons.esp 1B Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp 1C moonpath_questdata.esp 1D Wyrmstooth.esp [Version 1.9] 1E WyrmstothMapMarkerHotfix.esp 1F SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 20 Convenient Horses.esp 21 ETaC - Complete.esp 22 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 23 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp 24 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp 25 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp 26 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp 27 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp 28 RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp 29 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp 2A ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 2B ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 2C ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp 2D Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 2E MidasSkyrim.esp 2F Midas Magic Expanded.esp 30 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 31 3DNPC.esp 32 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 33 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 34 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 35 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 36 RND_ETaC-Patch.esp 37 RND_USKP-Patch.esp 38 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 39 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.3.4] 3A ETaC - Complete 3DNPC Patch.esp 3B Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp 3C Skytest Monster Mod.esp 3D Unique Region Names.esp 3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp 3F LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.espright I used to run about 160 mods and it got me far but then just starting giving in completely. So ive narrowed it down to these 66 or so losing so many great mods that I thought were essential but alas skyrim doesnt want me to enjoy myself too much now eh. second, this is the log (if it helps in any way of roughly the last 20 lines of scripts. (390192A9): Spell is permanent (e.g. an ability/addiction/disease) and cannot be Cast..stack:[ (390192A9)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ?[alias pAlias1 on quest TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweaksettings.stealth() - "TweakSettings.psc" Line ?[TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweakfollowerscript.stealth() - "TweakFollowerScript.psc" Line ?[None].TweakSummonMenu.OnEffectStart() - "TweakSummonMenu.psc" Line ?[02/09/2014 - 09:11:30PM] Error: (390192A9): Spell is permanent (e.g. an ability/addiction/disease) and cannot be Cast..stack:[ (390192A9)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ?[alias pAlias2 on quest TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweaksettings.stealth() - "TweakSettings.psc" Line ?[TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweakfollowerscript.stealth() - "TweakFollowerScript.psc" Line ?[None].TweakSummonMenu.OnEffectStart() - "TweakSummonMenu.psc" Line ?[02/09/2014 - 09:12:00PM] VM is freezing...[02/09/2014 - 09:12:00PM] VM is frozen[02/09/2014 - 09:12:01PM] Saving game...[02/09/2014 - 09:12:02PM] VM is thawing...[02/09/2014 - 09:14:33PM] VM is freezing...[02/09/2014 - 09:14:33PM] VM is frozen[02/09/2014 - 09:14:35PM] Saving game...[02/09/2014 - 09:14:35PM] VM is thawing...[02/09/2014 - 09:15:09PM] Error: (390192A9): Spell is permanent (e.g. an ability/addiction/disease) and cannot be Cast..stack:[ (390192A9)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ?[alias pAlias1 on quest TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweaksettings.stealth() - "TweakSettings.psc" Line ?[TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweakfollowerscript.stealth() - "TweakFollowerScript.psc" Line ?[None].TweakSummonMenu.OnEffectStart() - "TweakSummonMenu.psc" Line ?[02/09/2014 - 09:15:09PM] Error: (390192A9): Spell is permanent (e.g. an ability/addiction/disease) and cannot be Cast..stack:[ (390192A9)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ?[alias pAlias2 on quest TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweaksettings.stealth() - "TweakSettings.psc" Line ?[TweakFollower (390012CE)].tweakfollowerscript.stealth() - "TweakFollowerScript.psc" Line ?[None].TweakSummonMenu.OnEffectStart() - "TweakSummonMenu.psc" Line ?[02/09/2014 - 09:15:45PM] VM is freezing...[02/09/2014 - 09:15:45PM] VM is frozen[02/09/2014 - 09:15:46PM] Saving game...[02/09/2014 - 09:15:46PM] VM is thawing...[02/09/2014 - 09:15:46PM] Warning: Negative time delta during VM update - clamping to 0. (Current: 2886512, Previous 2886554, Delta: -42)Thirdly. This is a brand new game I started to try and acheive stability it is also a clean install basically as clean as it can be. system specs : uhg intel i3 350mRadeon HD54704GB ram latest drivers for all hardware also My sound is set to lowest quality as mentioned somewhere before. Am not using ENBoost but I am using safetyload and hialgoboost because of my shitty laptop, also I run shadows on low and textures on medium without any AA only FXAA. Please can somebody help me I cant bear to have to chuck skyrim away when It is still unfamiliar ground for me as I havent even got further than level 23. Its still a new game to me :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikecheese1337 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Midas Magic and Alternate Start are often extremely problematic. I don't understand Midas's popularity - it's ancient, unbalanced and buggy. Anyway, get ENBoost (it turns off ENB's graphics changes whilst keeping the memory fixes, so it's a free lunch - it solved all of my freezes) and the Skyrim Memory Patch (ALL HAIL SHESON) - it stops the game from bursting into tears when things try to load. I've barely crashed at all since installing both of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velve666 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Thanks for the reply man, I would love to get ENboost going but no matter what I do for the life of me cannot get it working or im just not sure it is working. I have all the files its just a matter of getting them working im on a laptop like I said so im not sure should I use injector or the wrapper version. I will give it a shot now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 1) Replace your load order with a complete BOSS log (include the SKSE information in the BOSS log). 2) Describe your CTDs in much greater detail: when/where/what were you doing or what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velve666 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Right here it is and sorry im not sure how to paste it here in colour but here it goes, the two main pages of my boss log. Summary Plugin Type CountRecognised (or sorted by user rules) 63Unrecognised 1Inactive 0All 64Plugin Message Type CountWarning 0Error 0All 16Your masterlist has been updated to revision 0 (2014-02-09).No change in recognised plugin list since last run.Note: Latest BOSS threadNote: Your SKSE is up-to-date. Recognized plugins These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt. After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder.Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}HearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}Falskaar.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveETaC - RESOURCES.esm ActiveJSwords.esm Activemoonpath.esm ActiveSkyMoMod.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}SPIKE.esm ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern.esp ActiveSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}JSwords_Load_Screens.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp Activehothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}DeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp Activemoonpath_questdata.esp ActiveWyrmstooth.esp ActiveWyrmstothMapMarkerHotfix.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.ETaC - Complete.esp ActiveETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp ActiveRLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveMidasSkyrim.esp ActiveMidas Magic Expanded.esp ActiveDuel - Combat Realism.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveRND_ETaC-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveETaC - Complete 3DNPC Patch.esp ActiveSkytest Immersive Creatures.esp ActiveSkytest Monster Mod.esp ActiveUnique Region Names.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp Active While im here and someone sees this could you perhaps tell me how to post your boss log in its original colours I see so many peeps doing on forums...thanks. so yes I have cleaned all dirty edits, no conflicts, I have researched every mod in depth as to user reviews/what not to do's, compatability patches for mods ect. There is some interesting news from my side though. I have got ENboost to work correctly as well as hialgo by editting the proxy settings. Also Using shesons memory patcher, now I do not crash while walking in the gamespace anymore, but now my crashes are quite consistant with loading saves. I can load any save and enter the game no problem but once I die in-game and it loads my last save it will sometimes crash on the load or give me a few seconds of play before ctd. I have tried a workaround by pressing escape once dying and doing a manual load but it gives me the same crash. No idea whats happening now but like I said ENBoost seems to have helped my previous crashing somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Dark0ne Posted February 10, 2014 Community Manager Share Posted February 10, 2014 (just FYI, the view counter is broken at the moment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velve666 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Oh ok thanks for that, but I had no intention to sound sarcastic or snide in any way, was just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kytsurai Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 1. Some tips i can lend you friend. for me BOSS default correction always works. 2. SKSE 1.7 alpha is stable, i have used it for the last 4 days and haven't had any issues, and gopher is using it as well. The effect of this is the increase startup block from 256 to 512mbs which will allow you more memory and A HUGE stability update, in the last 4 days i haven't had 1 issue at all and i use roughly 213 mods. 3. Your specs are lower then mine friend, this alone may disrupt your performance, I use a CPU: AMD FX 6350 6 core + GPU: AMD Radeon HD Sapphire 7750 1GB and i cant even use ENB without major preformance impact, it was clearly designed for Nvidia. END issue suggestion: I cant believe its not an ENB, Brodual made a video and im using it now, and im shocked how nice skyrim looks now. I will check back here in my free time of eating "dinner" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishayu Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 1. Some tips i can lend you friend. for me BOSS default correction always works. 2. SKSE 1.7 alpha is stable, i have used it for the last 4 days and haven't had any issues, and gopher is using it as well. The effect of this is the increase startup block from 256 to 512mbs which will allow you more memory and A HUGE stability update, in the last 4 days i haven't had 1 issue at all and i use roughly 213 mods. 3. Your specs are lower then mine friend, this alone may disrupt your performance, I use a CPU: AMD FX 6350 6 core + GPU: AMD Radeon HD Sapphire 7750 1GB and i cant even use ENB without major preformance impact, it was clearly designed for Nvidia. END issue suggestion: I cant believe its not an ENB, Brodual made a video and im using it now, and im shocked how nice skyrim looks now. I will check back here in my free time of eating "dinner" lol Nobody here is having problems with their performance anymore. We're crashing specifically after loading a game after dying - randomly, with no regard given to what you load or if the load is broken or not. It will happily load the save it crashed on earlier if the game is restarted without a hitch. Also, my PC is faster than yours - Intel Core i7-4770k, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX680I repeat, this is NOT a performance issue. It's more than likely a memory allocation issue. I have the same issue as the original poster described in post #5, however I created a duplicate thread due to the confusing/unrelated thread name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velve666 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yes sorry about the thread name. some good news well at least for me. Ive been spending the last hour or two troubleshooting here was my scenario : Im at the western watchtower where you battle murmilkir or a name similar. this allows me to see if deadly dragons is the problem plus also it is quite heavy on my system because of the fire/smoke ect. I jump off the tower 8 times reloading, then get killed by fire/dragon another 8 times for a total of 16 reloads. before I found the problem I could only manage 3 or 4 reloads before a crash. I unchecked my last 10 mods and the crashing dissapeared so this has nothing to do with ENB but a mod conflict The mod that is the culprit is Interesting NPC's. stop! I am not pointing fingers here for one second I have never had a problem with 3DNPC. yet now it is an issue. I think I know why------> on this playthrough I decided to take hrojmir with me to bleak falls barrow yet after we were done questing he does not leave as a follower. he follows me everywhere and the only dialogue options I have are follow me I need your help, there is no dissmisal option for him. So he is essentially within the area of me every time I tried to load my game, How could I not have thought of this haha. Going to uninstall 3DNPC launch save. reinstall 3DNPC and see if its fixed. Ishayu you dont perhaps have anything similar to the scenario above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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